Phantom gallstones? Abdominal charlie horse? - Digestive Disorders Message Board

kim_okla · 12-07-2003, 06:26 PM

I had my gallbladder out 2 years ago. 11 months later I had an attack like a gallstone but worse. Started with an uncomfortable, tight pain under the middle of breasts. Then it felt like my entire abdomen went into a charlie horse (leg cramp). Sweating and panting cause that's the only way I could breath. It lasted 15-20 minutes then was gone like it never happened.

I had an ultrasound to look for a stray gallstone, negative. Not a kidney stone. They are getting more frequent now every 2-3 weeks.

I have been to the doctor twice, they don't know either. Last time I got an under the tongue muscle relaxer to see if it decreases the duration of the attack. The last time I did try the medicine and felt better in 9 minutes but not good for 18 minutes so no, I don't think it decreased the duration of attack but it did the pain.

I don't have reflux/heartburn. Bowels are normal (post gallbladder surgery) no diarrhea or constipation, just soft stools since GB surgery.

If anyone can give me a direction to look or rule out test you've already had, I would be very appreciative.

penquinlady · 12-08-2003, 05:03 AM

Hi kim_okla...we may have similar problems. I too have had my GB out ...15 yrs ago. I also get this pain or tightening just under the breast bone. i can feel the pain all the way through to my back as well. Can't catch my breath sometimes. Have gone to emerg many times as it can get real bad! They gave me uscle relaxer pills which don't really help much. I take percocet when it gets real bad . I have have most tests like, barium swallow, ultra sound, cat scan and endoscopy just recently done. Nothing has showed up so far. In attempts to say the cause they thought it might be IBS,Hiatus Hernia or Gerds. I too don't suffer from reflux/heartburn or gas/bloated feelings. My bowels are for the most part pretty good too. It never occurs after the same diet or even alcohol. Each time is different it seems. It can occur out of no where during the day, morning or wakes me up in middle of night. Lasts few minutes for small one to hours and hours of excuriating pain with no apparen relief in site. I can not offer any advice as I don't know aabout myself either . Just keep going to see the doctors there must be an answer out there.
Penquinlady...good luck...

fran stout · 12-08-2003, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by penquinlady

Hi kim_okla...we may have similar problems. I too have had my GB out ...15 yrs ago. I also get this pain or tightening just under the breast bone. i can feel the pain all the way through to my back as well. Can't catch my breath sometimes. Have gone to emerg many times as it can get real bad! They gave me uscle relaxer pills which don't really help much. I take percocet when it gets real bad . I have have most tests like, barium swallow, ultra sound, cat scan and endoscopy just recently done. Nothing has showed up so far. In attempts to say the cause they thought it might be IBS,Hiatus Hernia or Gerds. I too don't suffer from reflux/heartburn or gas/bloated feelings. My bowels are for the most part pretty good too. It never occurs after the same diet or even alcohol. Each time is different it seems. It can occur out of no where during the day, morning or wakes me up in middle of night. Lasts few minutes for small one to hours and hours of excuriating pain with no apparen relief in site. I can not offer any advice as I don't know aabout myself either . Just keep going to see the doctors there must be an answer out there.
Penquinlady...good luck...

Kim, I am also in Oklahoma...we have to take care of each other! I have also suffered with the same symptoms for 6 years. I just got diagnosed this summer but the good news is I also found a treatment that works well for me. I have an Rx for a compound that is 3 equal parts of the active ingredients of pepto bismol/benedryl and viscous lidocaine. Sherry's pharmacy in Edmond does this for me. I have found that taking 3 TBS at the very begining of an attack will usually knock it out. If not I take a few more until it numbs the spasm out. The trick is to take it the minute I feel like one is starting.. If I can help ,let me know. I know your pain,frustration and fear. Please keep me posted on your progress.
Fran

fran stout · 12-08-2003, 09:41 AM

Kim, I forgot to mention that I got a post from Harry this morning (he is a moderator) and he talked about magnesium deficiency. Look at my posts...he may be contacting you as well.
See ya
Fran

purple2067 · 12-08-2003, 09:53 AM

Is it possible that there could be something blocking the common bile duct? When I had an ultrasound before my surgery, it showed that nothing was in the bile duct. However, my liver function tests were very elevated so my surgeon insisted on an ERCP before surgery. My gastro dr went in endoscopically and found a ton of stuff blocking my common bile duct that he had to clean out before I could have surgery. It is called "biliary sludge". Do any of you have abnormal liver function tests?