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terri48 05-02-2004 08:43 PM

Magnesium as a Cure for Reflux
 
I was reading the older posts and came across a very long thread, a few pages back. Bluepumpkin posted that magnesium cured his GERD (acid reflux) and he was able to go off PPI's like prevacid, nexium, etc. A few people asked him questions and he disappeared. A few people tried magnesium and said it was helping. I would be hesitant to stop Prevacid based on a poster's opinion. If anyone who was on that old thread is still here and tried magnesium, please tell me if it worked and if you discontinued your PPI's or H2 meds (pepcid, zantac, etc.)

Harry 05-02-2004 10:32 PM

Re: Magnesium as a Cure for Reflux
 
Terri,
I guess I'm the one that suggested Bluepumkin try magnesium to get rid of spasms. That was last July-- as he posted -- it helped him and he stuck around for awhile then stop answering requests.

I have been posting on Healthboards since October,1999. Many people come here looking for support, to shear, and for some advice. After they get it, many just quit posting. But,some of us just stick around to see if we can help others.

We are all not the same as you know and not all medication helps everybody the same. I use nutrition, homeopathic medicine, other alternatives even prayer and the laying on of hands as well as regular medicine to build health and have for many years.

I started reading my first book on nutrition about 1970 and found some things very logical and used my first Homeopathic remedy to help my wife with muscle spasms in her lower back in the early seventies. It worked so great that I got hooked on Homeopathy, as well as vitamins, minerals, supplements, chelation therapy, oxygen therapy, and others.

I don't think and neither do many Doctors think you are suppose to take PPI's for te rest of your life. Reducing the stomach acid for long periods may result in other problems and growth of bacteria. The long term may not be very good?? There is a site that addresses that problem posted by HRH in the Information Archives on this board that you may want to read it -- you now have to copy and paste the address on a search engine or copy it.

My wife took Prevacid and Prilosec for 6 years for an esophagus problem --- Nut Cracker Syndrome. The Meds started causing nausea daily -- her doctor told her to stop taking PPIs. I started giving her magnesium 4 times daily to incease absorption when the propblem start again with 2 weeks after stopping Prilosec. She has not taken Prilosec since last October and has no problems with swallowing or the feeling that food is stuck in her throat since then. I also think it has help her asthma because she has almost cut out her inhalers--- 2 puffs once at night. She only took a Cal/Mag supplement once daily for 22 years. Absorption is only about 14% taking it like that. You can get a blood screen test for magnesium if you think you need to know.

Magnesium is a mineral (really a metal about 1/3 lighter than aluminum) that is in every cell of your body and some people believe that 70% of people in the USA lack it in their system. 67% is in the bones --- the rest is in your cells. To properly absorb calcium --- you have to have magnesium to prevent Osteoporsis along with Vitamin D.

To control GERD with me -- I rearly have to take a PPI more than a few days. I control it usually with diet and magnesium as well as sometimes homeopathy. Mexican and alot of spicy food causes me problems.

I wish you well---Harry

nopizza 05-03-2004 12:08 PM

Re: Magnesium as a Cure for Reflux
 
See my post on the l-o-o-o-o-ng thread by bluepumpkin. I've been off PPI's & on magnesium for 6 days. Will keep you advised. So far, no ill effects.

Lia813 05-03-2004 03:44 PM

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Terri, I have been suffering since Jan. 1 with esophagitis. Not GERD or reflux per se' as I have no acid back up in my mouth nor any heart " burn". Mine began as slamming pain to the chest that would spread to behind one or both breasts, into my jaw and ear, down my arms, to my back, etc. upon each and every swallow. I had a barrium swallow that showed a large ulceration or mass . I had been on Fosamax for 18mos. prior so I THINK that is the cause of all mine. Anyway then I had an endoscopy that showed nothing. No ulcerations, no irritation, nothing.Nothing wrong to even biopsy.Still I had the pain upon each and every swallow of any food or water and the feeling especially of pills getting hung in my throat. My Dr put me on Aciphex in mid January , said I might have esophageal spasms now. Did not help much. This pain continues . He then had me take two Aciphex a day and when it ran out , very expensive, to go to Prilosec OTC twice a day. I did that for 3 weeks and then on my own after reading a medical journal article I added an H2 Blocker, Pepcid Ac or Zantac , I had some of each. Then I added 3 magnesium tablets, that I read about on this board. That was last week and for the first time I am better. Not good, but better. I intend to keep up this regimen for a bit and eventually try to get off the PPI's and H2 Blocker little by little and hope the magnesium will fix it. If not I am headed for a manometry . Adding the magnesium has helped me , now I don't know if it would have helped had I stopped the other meds too , I just don't know. I already take Calcium with D for my osteoporosis. I can tell you that it has not hurt me , has only helped. Lia

terri48 05-03-2004 04:06 PM

Re: Magnesium as a Cure for Reflux
 
Lia, could you please tell me which brand of Magnesium you are taking, which form and how many mgs. is each tablet...and how many times a day you're taking it? Thanks a lot and I am glad for you that it's helping!

Lia813 05-04-2004 11:51 AM

Re: Magnesium as a Cure for Reflux
 
Terri, I am taking Spring Valley Brand Natural Magnesium with Chelated Zinc. I am in rural TX so have few places to shop thus got it in the vitamin aisle at Walmart. It was cheap $3 or $4 for a bottle of 100 tablets. On the back it says " Supplement Facts. Serving size 3 tablets , Servings per container about 33. " ( take one 3 times per day , morning, noon and nite.)It also says" Amount per serving Magnesium 400 mgs , Zinc 15 mgs. Both being 100% of daily value" Remember that a serving is 3 tablets. I am for sure not cured and I continue taking the PPI's and the H2 Blocker with these magnesium tablets but I am hoping to get enough better to not have to have a manometry and hoping to be able someday to ease off these PPI's and H2 Blocker. Let me know how you do. I don't think it will hurt you at least.

nopizza 05-04-2004 01:20 PM

Re: Magnesium as a Cure for Reflux
 
Lia, I've suspected for a long time that the Fossamax I took for 3 years or more caused my GERD, so I was interested to read that you think it contributed to your problem too. At about the same time my GERD really became bad (Oct, 2003), my doctor switched me to Actonel for a pre-osteoporatic condition. He said it was supposed to be easier on the stomach. It is taken once a week (35 mg for maintenance and 70 mg for improving bone density). Same as Fos, you can't lie down, bend over, or eat for 30 minutes. I've had really good bone scans with both the Fos and the Actonel. I haven't noticed any change in the GERD since I've been taking the Actonel, but then, I suppose the damage has already been done to my esophagus.
Terri, I'm still taking the magnesium oxide which I got at a health food store. (250 mg, one capsule. Another 200 mg is in my calcium supplement). I haven't had my PPI for about a week now. I'm trying to avoid having the endoscopy & also avoid taking PPI's long term.

Lia813 05-04-2004 02:32 PM

Re: Magnesium as a Cure for Reflux
 
Hi, nopizza. I never had GERD nor any gastro problem in my entire life until Jan . 1 . I had been on Foso for about 18 mos. at that times. I took it exactly as directed and thought I was ok with it and then it hit me, the terrible chest pain, no burning, no reflux just horrid pain upon each and every swallow of anything. I just knew right then that that difficulty swallowing and chest pain ,that I had never had in my life ,had to be caused by it. I got off of it right then and went on Mialcalin Nasal Spray . I said no more pills for osteoporosis , I had read that some have the same trouble with Actonel and I was scared of it. I am now 4 mos. into this esophageal hell and on top of that my bones did not improve on the Fosamax, they stayed the same. So MAYBE at least they kept it from getting worse. But to get this esophageal mess, and it is far from over, is just not worth it to me. Isn't that something, now taking 6 pills a day for an ailment that ONE pill a week for another ailment gave me ! Good luck. Lia

longtimehurtin 05-04-2004 10:05 PM

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I have spasms in my stomache, they start in the middle just where my ribs meet, it progresses to the entire stomache, then moves to my back, I tried taking magnesium, but it gave me diarreah. I lowered the dosage but same thing happens. I was taking Magnesium Citrate 150 mg three times a day like it said. Is there a brand that is better, that doesn't involve so many trips to the bathroom? I have been taking narcotics for the attacks for almost six years now, I am so desparate to get off of these horrible things, if you have any suggestions I would be truly grateful...Tanya

newhere 05-05-2004 07:51 AM

Re: Magnesium as a Cure for Reflux
 
Wow. This is quite exciting. I had noooo idea about this Mg thing.

I have had acid reflux since I was 20, I'm 24 now. I've been on PPI's for 3 years now, most notably Nexium for almost half of that time. Nexium worked perfectly at the start, I could eat almost anything again with no symptoms......then it started to not work as well.....and I started to wonder about long term effects. Funny how none of the doctors mentioned long term problems.

I only took half of a 40mg pill this morning and am going to take Mg, we'll see how this goes. :) I am going back to a specialist sometime soon and I'm hoping that he won't suggest more PPI's - first of all I've tried them all, second of all I'd rather treat the cause rather than the symptoms.

Anyways sorry for the ramble but I don't know anyone who has the same problems as me and suddenly I stumble upon this board.....I'm not so weird after all....kind of exciting really (in a not so good way I suppose) :bouncing:

bluepumkin 05-09-2004 11:16 AM

Re: Magnesium as a Cure for Reflux
 
Hello everyone,
sorry I zoned out for a while, my computer was down, then I got it fixed then I couldn't remember my password... and I also have a new job that requires me to wake up the roosters, so I go to bed quite early. I read the posts about magnesium. Taking magnesium has made all the difference in my quality of life. I am not on any ppi's. I also take other vitamins just because. I'm ashamed to say but I haven't even been to the doctor since I found the magnesium solution. I have very few problems with food, I cannot eat citrus fruits and I choose not to eat spicy food. I can eat anything I want now. When I do feel a little crampy, I take a magnesium tablet and about 10 minutes later I forget I even felt crampy. For those still on the ppi's just remember, Harry was right. They aren't meant to be taken forever. You have to do something to correct the situation.
Best wishes to all.

Belle2003 05-21-2004 09:17 PM

Re: Magnesium as a Cure for Reflux
 
Dear Bluepumpkin:

Have you given up on coffee too? My husband only has trouble with throat clearing in the morning when he has coffee. I just can't seem to get him to get off the coffee. He is willing to try the Magnesium, but I am afraid it will do no good unless he gets off the caffiene.

My father was continually clearing his throat and was drinking coffee 6 to 8 times a day. He stopped all caffiene and the results were amazing. I wish my husband would do the same.

ForgetMeKnot 05-21-2004 09:47 PM

Re: Magnesium as a Cure for Reflux
 
I havent taken mag for almost 2 weeks and the heartburn, constant deep belching and pain in the chest are back, they have made a GREAT difference in my life ,and I need to go pick some up tomorrow for sure!!

It really works, and I use some cheap brand for 2 bucks at the dollar stor, that takes two tablets three times a day.

My grandma thinks I take them too much, but I take them the recommended dosage or something just 2 or 4 a day and not the full does, she doesnt understand how bad the burping and the burning is...and told me that taking it all the time is probably bad, yeah well NOT taking it is bad and I feel uncomfortable and sick when I dont take it.

Is there any reason not to take magnesium?...mine also have calcium and zinc in them and they still work. She said taking too much zinc would be bad.

The only thing I read about taking too much Mg is that it could react as a laxative and well that certainly hasnt happened.

Anyone know about zinc?

p.s.

it seems like spicey foods are the main starter for heartburn etc, I get it after eating deli sandwichs the most.

ForgetMeKnot 05-21-2004 10:04 PM

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Okay I need help reading the back of the vitamin bottle, i just read women should only take 12 mg zinc per day....this is what the back of the bottle says

serving size:2 tablets
servings per container 30

amount per serving %Daily Value
Calcium (as calcium carbonate)333mg 33%
magnesium (as magnesium oxide) 167mg 42%
zinc (as zinc gluconate) 17 mg 111%

and i am suppose to take two tablets three times a day, so can someone help me out and tell me exactly how much zinc I am taking A DAY?? Above is exactly what is on the back of the bottle.

lannen 06-02-2004 06:39 PM

Re: Magnesium as a Cure for Reflux
 
I too have suffered with chronic heartburn, chest pain, gas for over 2 years now. Having no luck with any Dr prescribed Rx's, I know just take alot of Gaviscon. I noticed that one of the ingrediants in Gaviscon is 105 mg of Magnesium Carbonate. Is this the same thing as what's in a magnesium supplement?
Thanks for all the great info!!!


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