Chances of Curing H Pylori? - Digestive Disorders Message Board

mrmusicman79 · 09-07-2003, 12:11 PM

I posted a message a few weeks ago, regarding what to do for a second treatment of H. Pylori. The first one (Prevacid, Amoxycillin, Biaxin, 7 days) did not work. My doctor has prescribed 14 days of Losec, Flagyl, and Biaxin, but I haven't taken it yet. I've been too scared of side effects, and now some material I've read suggests that this may not be a very effective second treatment. It recommends quad therapy including tetracycline (nasty side effects).
I'm at the end of my rope and I don't want to go through any more. If I knew for sure that a treatment would work, I could force myself to take it. But with the failure of the first one, I have no confidence at all.
What can anyone suggest?

Harry · 09-07-2003, 06:14 PM

I use to have a problem with ulcers and have had gastritis alot that seemed never to get cured. Before the discovery of H.pylori bacteria the cure was an antiacid, milk and Maalox--- it was thought to be caused by stress and/or anxiety??? As you know the treatment for H.pylori problems is 2 antibiotics and a PPI.

I think like most bacteria -- it too can become immune to some antibiotics that is used as well as proton pump inhibitors don't work exactly the same for everyone.

In 2001 I used an OTC remedy called Mastica that was given to me by an Alternative Care Doctor(MD). In 2 weeks my gastritis was cured. It just so happened that my GI doctor had scheduled an endoscopic exam 6 months previously so the exam verified I did not have gastritis any more. The GI doc gave me Axiphex(sp) and Prilosec but I could not tell any positive effects. Later, I confirmed that I did not have H.pylori with a blood and breath tests. The tests 6 months earlier tested my stomach with biopsies did not show H.pylori but I don't think it was taken in the right area of pain --my duodeum.

Mastic Gum has been used for hundreds of years for Gasto problems by the Greeks and Turks. The info I found online says it is effective against H.plori bacteria. You may want to try it. My Doctor also said to use a probiotic supplement-- I used PB-8 that use anyway.

I wish you well---Harry

DeeJay · 09-08-2003, 06:11 AM

Hi Musicman,

Sorry to hear all that mate.

I took
lanzoprazole 30mg, 1 twice a day
amoxicillin 500mg, 2 every 12 hours
metronidazole, 400mg 1 every 12 hours

this worked for me with no side affects and I am really allergic. Eradication of H-Pylori confirmed by Breath Test. I am not completely cured as I may have probelms now from the antibiotics but I put on weight and general health benefits were worth it! My stomach is almost 100% better. Maybe you could try this combo? If it suited me and worked I say go for it again. Good luck

mrmusicman79 · 09-08-2003, 07:46 AM

DeeJay: How long was your treatment? And what do you mean when you say that the antibiotics caused other problems? I have heard of them such regimens causing lactose intolerance, and (in severe cases) kidney damage.
Has anyone else been treated with the combo of metrodizone/clarithromycin/losec? And if so, for how long? The info I read on this combo says that 7 days is the usual length.
Thanks.

suzyshop1 · 09-08-2003, 02:35 PM

Mrmusicman 79 you might want to try the mastica gum that harry recommended.Its a natural remedy,its cheap and it might work for you.It sure beats takng strong antibiotics. Do a search on mastica gum,what do ya have to lose.Im on it right now for about a week.I cant really say if its workng for me cause i still have pain somewhat.I have this gnawing pain in my right side under my right breast on the bone.It used to be off and on , now its 24/7.I was diagnosed with h.pylori couple months ago.Did the prevpac thing,same symptoms were back after it.Went to second gastro doc,he did blood test assumed it was gone.That was that.Only problem is i still have the same symptoms.The gastro doc just assumed because the blood test was negative i was ok.In my research ive done on this bacteria, blood tests arent very reliable after antibiotcs.So now im on the mastica gum and it hasnt hurt me at least .I have an another appt with a different gastro doc on the 30th,so will see.Like i said i have this pain 24/7.Something really strange is i had no pain at all this weekend,but am having some today.The last doctor suggested the pain might be connected to my ibs.What symptoms are you having?

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