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Old 06-17-2013, 08:36 AM   #31
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Re: Constant bloating/constipation/heartburn months after stomach infection

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I assume rice is ok? I have read that rice is the least intrusive carb to stomach problems,
My primary care doctor says rice moves very slowly through the digestive system and, as such, can cause constipation. My eats a lot of rice, so rice has been pretty much a daily thing for me for the past several years. When I went to see my doctor a few months back with my problems, he suggested I cut out rice altogether for a few weeks to see if it helped. (It didn't.)

On some of these forums, people claim to find relief with the so-called "caveman" diet, but I've never tried it, so I don't know whether it works or not.

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Old 06-17-2013, 05:44 PM   #32
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Re: Constant bloating/constipation/heartburn months after stomach infection

Hi sorry to hear about your problems, mine was a bit similar i have made a post, you should ask your dr if you can have some tests done for slow transit, i suffered for years, and still am.

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Old 06-19-2013, 08:32 AM   #33
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Re: Constant bloating/constipation/heartburn months after stomach infection

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• Sometimes after eating I get tolerable pains at the tip of the bottom of my ribcage, on either side.
Ask your doctor about Spenal Flexure Syndrome

 
Old 07-16-2013, 06:53 PM   #34
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Ask your doctor about Spenal Flexure Syndrome
Amy-I hope you get in soon! I’m sure that will be very helpful to find anything out from the dietician. Be careful though, I’ve know/have run into a few dietitians and they will tell you not to be afraid or wheat/grains/carbs, but I and many other are living proof that they are wrong. They seem to be very “by the book” and close-minded when it comes to this stuff, just like medical doctors. Try ACV for the reflux! I used it for awhile with meals and now I don’t need it anymore See below for what’s helped me lately! I also massage my stomach and it DOES help!
About the diet....the best way to go is no grains at all:/ No wheat, corn, rice, even quinoa and even potatoes (I know not a grain but nightshades can be problematic for alot of people, me included) But it is very hard at first, so start with wheat and see how you feel, them maybe eliminate the other one by one to see if you feel a difference? I wrote below that I have been successful with the SCD! I truly feel my best following that! I do use some sauces on my meat as long as it has few ingredients and none of the ingredients are something bad for me, like soy or chemicals, I will tolerate a little bit of sugar in it. I usually just make my own marinades though! I suspect that I have SIBO, which is very hard to treat, but I’ve read that you may need to be on the SCD for at least a year and then an additional year after your symptoms disappear. I cannot do that, but I can be pretty strict most of the time. And the way I feel is such motivation to continue eating that way. I mainly eat chicken or fish and vegetables on the side. Trust me I was NOT happy when the naturopath told me to eliminate grains, sugar, dairy, soy, nuts....I LOVE carbs and sugar...bread, pasta, candy, so if I can do it, ANYONE can do it, trust me. But maybe my love for those things are what got me here in the first place? Hmm....

Sparky2013-Thanks for the suggestion My only problem with it is once they’ve established that, then all they can do for it is put you on meds, which I will not do.

Com77-Rice does not back me up the way other grains do. I can tell that I pass rice easier than bread or pasta. The Paleo or “caveman” diet is pretty much what I follow, though not as strictly. In all my research I’ve done, I’ve seen many comments by people saying that they’ve become constipated after going paleo, but that does not mean that we NEED grains and it doesn’t mean that they are good for us either. There are many other ways to get fiber, and who knows what other sources of fiber those people are trying or not trying.

I can tell you that it has not worsened my bm’s at all. Some days are better than others. But at risk of sounding disgusting, I feel as though my food is digesting better and faster, and I can definitely hear/feel my intestinal contractions so I know its moving, but then it feels like it just sits lower in my colon for a long time before I have that urge to go (and its not low enough for me to “try” to get it out either). I am reading about Spenal Flexure Syndrome right now....interesting!! Something new to research!

Even though my naturopath has put me on supplements that have helped tremendously, I still can help but experiment a little bit. Things that have helped me lately?

•NOW Betaine HCI with protein foods
•NOW Super Enzymes (One of these every meal and a few Betaine HCI and I truly feel normal after eating! No discomfort, gas, heavy feeling...not sure why I didnt try these enzymes sooner because I had always heard mazing things about them!)
•Specific Carb Diet (SCD) - I eased up on the Paleo diet a bit and am following this now, and I can tell a big difference. It basically takes out any foods that are starchy (which I know for me instantly causes bloat and gas when eating). People follow this for IBS, colitis, SIBO and have had great success and even claim they are cured. I highly recommend looking into this.
•Eating only 3 meals a day is something I swear by. And also intermittent fasting (like if I start to feel a bit backed up, I will not eat any food for and entire day that I’m awake (so it ends up being about 36 hrs) and I will only drinks ALOT of water and hot water with lemon....
•Hot water with lemon Hot water in general has helped alot after a meal, but I don’t drink any water for about an hour after eating something, except for little bit to take my pills.
•For anyone who is still having indigestion or acid reflux, Braggs ACV did the trick for me. I did it either before or after my meals for about 3-4 weeks and how I don’t need to take it anymore The only time I EVER get it now is very mildly when I eat something with wheat/corn/potatoes...basically any starch.
•Also to make myself have a BM, massaging my stomach has worked, and so has doing ab exercises (and I think that the result of the exercises are causing my stomach to be flatter (duh) I used to not be able to do them because it always felt like I had a rock in my stomach.

Hope you all are helped by this and hopefully something you try will help, like it has me!

 
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Old 07-17-2013, 08:51 AM   #35
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Re: Constant bloating/constipation/heartburn months after stomach infection

Kelly - have you measured your transit time with activated charcoal tablets?

 
Old 07-17-2013, 09:25 AM   #36
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Kelly - have you measured your transit time with activated charcoal tablets?
Ya know I took those for awhile back when I was having REALLY bad and frequent gas (and they helped), but I never paid attention to transit time. I can say that in the past I have noticed when I eat beets, and also just certain foods in general such as lettuce or nuts, I sort of calculate in my head how long it took. I should take a more scientific approach and experiment with it and with different foods and with exact times Anyways it usually seems to be anywhere from 8-12 hours, but there are obviously days where I wont go for 3 days, which in that case is is obviously longer and I'm not sure why.

 
Old 08-05-2013, 06:38 AM   #37
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Re: Constant bloating/constipation/heartburn months after stomach infection

Hi

Kelly, am so glad you're finding something that's working for you. Definitely agree with you about the stomach massage, it can really help!

I went to see a doctor who has a practice specialising in oriental medicine last weekend, and I am so glad I did!

I outlined all of my symptoms (bloating, acid reflux, no bowel movement, etc..) and he looked at my tongue and told me I had candida - a fungal infection of the stomach.

He sent me away with two months worth of tablets to kill the fungus, and a strict diet to stick to for the next couple of months until I feel completely better.

Candida is, according to the doctor, a very common 21st century problem. It's caused by our diets - the excess sugar, additives, and our lifestyle. I always had a healthy(ish) diet, but clearly some people are much more susceptible to the fungus than others.

The diet mainly consists of no:

Yeast
Lactose
Sugars (except a very small amount of good quality honey, only when really needed, as the body still needs sugar to survive)
No fruits at first (too sugary)
Red meat - as it takes such a long time to digest, whereby the fungus thrives on it the whole time it sits in the stomach
Starchy potatoes (new potatoes are fine)
Vinegars
Sauces (contain sugar)
No cold food or drink; so nothing straight from the fridge. Apparently it is very bad for the stomach to have anything cold directly put into it, as it freezes the process of digestion and gives it quite a shock.

Fish, chicken, pork, turkey, etc are all safe to eat. The only thing about pork is you need to make sure you buy gluten free sausages if buying them, as normal sausages contain yeast.

So I am learning every day about what I can and can't eat really, there is a lot of information online, and people that have suffered (and recovered!!) have written blogs with handy tips and recipes they used when on the diet.

So far, so good! Have had no flare ups at all, still slightly bloated and need to take a laxative every night for BM's, but that will soon pass. He recommends I follow this diet alongside the tablets for the next two months, and at the end of the course of treatment I am to go back and see him again. If I feel completely recovered I can then gradually re-introduce things back into my diet, if not then I'll need to stick it out a little longer. However I am so impressed with the results in week 1 that I am fully confident I will be back to normal in no time!

If anyone is suffering with candida, be warned there is a lot of conflicting information online about what you can and can't eat. I have been told by the doctor, who has seen and treated many patients in his 40 year career (and succeeded) that the above list is the strict no-go area for foods. I can eat pasta, rice, noodles, new potatoes, etc etc, whereas some websites you find tell you that you cannot have ANY carbs whatsoever. Completely unhealthy and unrealistic, and with proven results of the diet and course of anti-fungals I am on, I'm happy to follow this one. It's not too hard and just takes a little getting used to and a bit of forward thinking before food shopping!

Good luck to everyone, fingers crossed in two months or so I will be bloat free...

Amy

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Old 08-05-2013, 04:23 PM   #38
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My symptoms have completely gone away about 2 months ago. I started being diligent about regular (4-5x/week) aerobic exercise (30+min each day), drinking more water, and eating a salad every day at lunch, and this seems to have done the trick.

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Old 08-06-2013, 11:42 AM   #39
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Hi

Good luck to everyone, fingers crossed in two months or so I will be bloat free...

Amy
That is awesome!!!! SO glad you are feeling better and getting answers And hopefully after the 2 months you feel 100% yourself again))
Unfortunately in my case, my problem is/was not candida, though I strongly suspected for the first year that that was the culprit. I don't have a coated tongue and my spit tests are negative. I am very surprised that the Dr. allows you to eat starches? Starches and sugar are what all sources I've ever read say yeast/candida/bacteria feed on. That is why I feel so good when I eliminate starches (the bacteria have nothing to eat to thrive). I haven't been no carb, just no wheat or grains. Veggies and fruit are carbs of course But eliminating grains and starches (and sugar of course) were my keys to getting back to normal. I can feast on all the fruits and veggies I want no matter how many carbs I ingest, and still feel incredible. Every few days I might give in and have some brown rice with a meal and my stomach can digest it pretty good now, which is how I know I'm healing. But I probably will not eat them regularly anymore, like I used to before I got sick just because the numerous health benefits have been astounding. No one in this world more than me would've thought that eliminating grains/starch (pasta, bread, potatoes) was unrealistic (my family knew me as a "carbaholic" ), but it is really not that difficult once you feel/see the changes, and there are way too many health benefits to eliminating wheat and grains from your diet then there are reasons to eat it, let alone deem it as unhealthy (the only benefits I've ever come across are fiber and possibly prebiotics as some studies show...which you can get both from other sources anyways). It's something I believe no one can understand until they actually stop eating those things for a while. But this just shows how individualistic everyone is regarding treatments to health issues. So people reading this thread will see different approaches from various sufferers on how they got back to good health. Hopefully it helps at least someone!

That's awesome com77!!! I'm glad we are all finding our ways back to health! I can definitely say that exercising regularly has helped me significantly also. Even just walking some days! As good as I feel though I still have a problem with anything that has more than a couple grams of fiber in it, let alone all-bran or psyllium. Hoping that eventually resolves?

 
Old 08-09-2013, 04:13 AM   #40
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That is awesome!!!! SO glad you are feeling better and getting answers And hopefully after the 2 months you feel 100% yourself again))

Thanks, really glad you're on your way to getting better, too! When I first wrote to you on here I think we both were in utter despair with our problems, so it's nice to see a light at the end of that long tunnel!

Well after eating pasta a few days this week I've realised it's way better to forgo it, I was getting more bloated again!! So I've been eating very little carbs - I've had no pasta, rice, or new potatoes, and have had mainly things with a lot of veg in, and you're so right - you really don't miss the starchy carbs do you?! Last night I had a small handful of sweet potato wedges and am absolutely fine today. The only bad thing about getting rid of the candida is the die off symptoms, making me feel very sick every now and then! A good sickness though I guess!

Regarding wheat and grains - I am so shocked at a lot of things I've read about grains!! When you think about it it does all make sense, like the fact that in their natural form they are indigestible, yet we grind them down and eat them, so it's not surprising people have issues with them.

It's funny what the bacteria / fungus makes you crave, for most of last week I was craving white soft bread (actually, thinking about it now I still want it), which I barely ever ate anyway. The starchier, more sugary foods have all been on my craving list, but I've noticed that over the last couple of days I'm having less and less cravings, so that's a good sign also. Have you had any huge cravings? And what have you done about them if you did? I find that if I really need a fix a handful of flaked almonds help a lot, or a cup of green tea to kind of fill me up a bit.

Totally agree about not eating much of the old foods once better. Even something like when I make someone a milky tea with sugar in it (which is what I used to have each morning) I think to myself "ugh I could not drink that now!" Also the realisation that you don't actually need starchy carbs for dinner etc, and you can have delicious meals without them, even my partner has said he'd be happy sticking to the meals we're currently having long term.

Saying that I'm sure once in a while when I'm cured I will have a teensie indulge in a slice or two of pizza or maybe some lovely cheeses....!

What kind of foods containing fibre are you having trouble with?

 
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What kind of foods containing fibre are you having trouble with?
You are so right with the die off symptoms, mine sucked. The bad thing is, I've cheated ALOT this summer since I was starting to feel normal again (to the point where the cheat's are becoming the norm...ugh), so I know when I start eating grain/dairy/sugar free again, those die off symptoms are likely to happen again. When I first saw my naturopath, she told me I could totally eat rice and potatoes, but every time I ate them I felt the same as if I just ate a piece of bread. So I think there if definitely further adjustments/elimination we the patients need to make to the diet depending on how our bodies feel. We are the only ones who know what we are feeling Sweet potatoes were what got me through the cravings the first few weeks until I realized they were still bloating me (ate a meal with them one day=bloated, next day ate the same meal without them=no bloat) so I am very jealous that you tolerate them well I switched to butternut squash which was just as satisfying. The cravings are very hard to deal with in the first month. I had INSANE sugar and starchy carb carvings, but I just stuck it out and tried to distract myself if it I got really desperate, and it worked. I don't even crave sugar anymore....was a candyholic since the stomach infection started and now candy doesnt even sound good. When I finally let myself cheat after the first month, it wasn't even delicious....it was more like the memory of how good the bad foods tasted that was tempting me, but once I gave in and ate it, I thought "wow, that was so not worth it". The hardest thing to avoid and the thing that WAS worth it when I ate it, was pizza)) But prior to starting the diet protocol pizza was THE WORST thing I could eat (knawing, sharp pains in stomach, huge bloating, no BM for a 4-5 days, major discomfort until that BM). Now if I eat it, I have no pain at all! But it still constipates me and bloats me a little bit. If I was craving starches, I would eat sweet potatoes or mashed squash with ghee (so good). If I was craving sugar, I would have some berries or other low-sugar fruit, or again, sweet potatoes (until I realized I couldnt eat them). So stock up on sweet potatoes!

The things that constipate me are the inulin fiber, psyllium husk majorly bloats me and constipates me (but once I do go, it's a GOOD one lol)...raw veggies, rice, potatoes, and if I ever eat anything grain-based (bread/pasta/bagel etc) that definitely constipates me. You know how I strongly suspect that I have SIBO? Well a big side effect is not being able to handle fiber (apparently the bacteria in the small intestine feed on it). Very happy I have come this far and feel great, but I truly just want to have multiple, normal bm's again everyday like I used to.

And what's a huge perk of eating that way, I am hardly ever bloated (not just tummy but entire body) and am losing weight too!

 
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