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Old 09-07-2005, 08:20 PM   #1
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Question First 3 Year Review

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I'm wondering if anyone here had been on S.S. disability for a while and already had their first 3 year review? I was sent many forms to fill out that had to be returned by Aug. 5th, including forms to simply sign that would be forwarded to my doctors. I have heard nothing since from S. S. and I'm wondering how long it takes. I fought hard to get on S.S. to begin with (2 reconsiderations then I appeared unrepresented before an ALJ and won) and I can't help but wonder if they will try to find away to remove me from it. I have had no improvement in any of my multiple conditions, and four of them have actually worsened, and I explained all of this to them. So, does anyone know the progression of the review and what may be in store for me next? Thanks!

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Old 09-10-2005, 05:05 AM   #2
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Re: First 3 Year Review

Hi, Sorry to sound stupid but what is a three year review? Is that a normal evaluation or what? I have been on LTD and SS for 6 years and just had my first IME. Never have heard another thing from ss after approval. Good Luck to you

 
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Old 09-10-2005, 06:36 AM   #3
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Re: First 3 Year Review

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Hi, Sorry to sound stupid but what is a three year review? Is that a normal evaluation or what? I have been on LTD and SS for 6 years and just had my first IME. Never have heard another thing from ss after approval. Good Luck to you

Hi Lucy,

No such thing as a stupid question, or then mine is stupid, too! I'm not familiar with the terms you used - LTD or IME! LOL I can GUESS that LTD is long-term disability?? And IME is a something medical eval??? I termed it a '3 year review' because I thought everyone had one after being on S.S. for that long, including someone else I know who is on it and has hers every 3 years. When I received the approval paperwork 3 years ago, it was stated that I would have a review/eval? in 3 years, that they do this to ensure people who are on S.S. are still qualified to receive benefits, because people's situations can improve, etc. Can you please explain what an "IME" is and what was involved? Is that like the review I was speaking of in my post? Any info you have will be helpful. Thanks!!

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Old 09-10-2005, 08:40 AM   #4
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Re: First 3 Year Review

Hi Char, Yes LTD is long term disability and IME is an Independent Med Exam by a dr other than my attending specialist. I was diagnosed w/MS 15 years ago so I had a pretty long detailed med history for SS and LTD provider when I stopped working 6 years ago. I knew the LTD provider had something like that in place but didn't know SS did as well to re-evaluate your condition. MS may be different since it is chronic progressive disease! Don't stress yourself out about it! I am sure it will all work out but is nerveracking none the less! God Bless

 
Old 09-10-2005, 09:06 AM   #5
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Hi Charlyssa
The reviews are sent based upon if there is any chance of improvement in your condition. In other words, if you got a 3 year review it means that you are "expected" to have improved within this amount of time based on your impairments.
some reviews are 5-7 years= Not much improvement expected
10 years (I think) = no chance for your impairment to improve(this is what my husband is on- he has had 10 heart attacks((((Yes I said 10 TEN))))) and 3 open heart surgeries for a total of 7 bypasses since 1995( I actually had to fight the heck out of SS to get him on disability-- they said there was work he could do!!!!! (oh come on now!!!!!)(we have been rather busy ) He is only 56 years old. With all that he has been through and then me going thru my back surgeries-- I just won my appeal in Aug. this year so I am awaiting my benefits to kick in- certainly no chance of improvement for him, His reviews would be kind of stupid since he is reaching the age for retirement anyway----he has been on SSDI for 3 years now, and mine is very little chance for imrovement so my reviews will probably come around 5-7 years---- so it all is basically based on how much improvement you make in this time frame!
Hope this helps!
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Hello!

I'm wondering if anyone here had been on S.S. disability for a while and already had their first 3 year review? I was sent many forms to fill out that had to be returned by Aug. 5th, including forms to simply sign that would be forwarded to my doctors. I have heard nothing since from S. S. and I'm wondering how long it takes. I fought hard to get on S.S. to begin with (2 reconsiderations then I appeared unrepresented before an ALJ and won) and I can't help but wonder if they will try to find away to remove me from it. I have had no improvement in any of my multiple conditions, and four of them have actually worsened, and I explained all of this to them. So, does anyone know the progression of the review and what may be in store for me next? Thanks!

Charlyssa
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Old 09-10-2005, 10:29 AM   #6
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Re: First 3 Year Review

Angel1, Thanks for the insight on ss. Wasn't aware of any of that. Probably was told but sure don't rememberit! Makes sense! Thanks

 
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Lucybelle

You are very welcome! Memory,,,,,,,,,,hummmmm what's that... I have forgotten what that is and where did I put it!!!
Have a great day!!!
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Old 09-11-2005, 12:20 AM   #8
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Re: First 3 Year Review

Hello again!

~Lucybelle~

Thanks for your input! Of course - I should have remembered the IMEs! I was soooo angry and frustrated after being seen by SS's doctors as they were so obviously biased in favor of SS! One was a physical capacities test - what a joke - he manually forced me into most of the positions and then stated I did them within normal limits, never mind that he had me in tears from pain, knew it, and didn't care. Some things he simply asked me if I could do them, I said no, and wrote down that I 'refused'. Then other things he never asked me to do at all, and wrote down that I did them within normal limits! I documented EVERYTHING and included them in my "report" when I had the ALJ hearing. Saw 2 other doctors, too - one said I didn't have fibromyalgia and didn't even test me. Seeing their doctors was a waste of time, and, of course, SS puts much more weight on what THEY say, than on my own doctor who knows me. SS claims these doctors are "independent" and "non-biased", but it's a LOAD. I contend that if they TRULY want non-biased opinions, they should allow us to pick one out of the phone book.

I am sooooooo sorry you have MS. How are you doing? In my case, I have multiple conditions, and that was part of the problem, at least initially. They tried to separate them and say that each one was not disabling in and of itself. But about 1.5 years after I got on SS I found out that they have a website in which they explain how they determine cases, what constitutes a disability, etc. They even list most all diseases, afflictions, etc., and whether they define it as disabling. Well, IN there they list my situation, where someone has multiple problems and how that makes for one big disability (I forget what they called it now - it's been a while!) meaning, from day one they HAD to know I qualified for disabilty. I swear they simply like to torture people. Anyway, I have arthritis in my spine, knees, and hips; chronic bilateral sacroiliitis; degenerative disk disease thruout my spine; chronic pain, stiffness and inflamation in my shoulders and wrists; scoliosis; fibromyalgia; Sjogren's Syndrome; mitral valve prolapse; migraines; GAD: depression; and in general, chronic pain in multiple areas. They already know that half of these will never go away, that they worsen, and they have. They sent me for a ton of exrays that proved all my bone-related conditions, not even that was enough for them! But for some reason, they believe I should be eval-ed every 3 years. I'm 54 - what are the chances I will make some miraculous recovery? I WISH!! EDIT: Forgot about these: I have IBS and TMJ, as well. However they are really part of the fibromyalgia. And I have recently been told I have mild hypertension, and, oh yes, osteoporosis, diagnosed soon after I got on SS.

~angel1~

Thanks for all your input, too! OMG, your poor husband!!!! But isn't that typical of SS to insist that he could work. I swear these people would say a corpse could work!! Do you know that the people who mostly decide these cases are trained to do this? They use a book of codes. They aren't doctors - in fact, a while back I saw a game show where people talk a little about themselves. Both husband and wife decided disability cases for SS, and BOTH had been to law school, no mention of any medical training whatsoever!! Hmmmmmm....are there conclusions one can draw from this??? I was so appalled at the whole system, and I have heard more than one person use the word "corrupt" when discussing SS procedures, and the net is full of these discussions.

Thank you both!

Hugs!

Char

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Old 09-11-2005, 10:35 PM   #9
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Re: First 3 Year Review

Thanks Guys,
As you can see this is why I have such a sour taste in my mouth for Social Security! They are not very "Social" and I don't feel any "security" from them. Others here have had a more pleasant experience with them and will defend them, I am happy for those who have not had to go through what we have and I know that it is tough for them to realize why we feel the way we do, however, with my experience with SS---- I prefer to feel the way that I do!
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Old 09-12-2005, 12:31 PM   #10
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Re: First 3 Year Review

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Thanks Guys,
As you can see this is why I have such a sour taste in my mouth for Social Security! They are not very "Social" and I don't feel any "security" from them. Others here have had a more pleasant experience with them and will defend them, I am happy for those who have not had to go through what we have and I know that it is tough for them to realize why we feel the way we do, however, with my experience with SS---- I prefer to feel the way that I do!
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Hi Angel,

I don't blame you in the least and I have felt the same way. Yes, some people seem to obtain it effortlessly and I will never understand their reasoning. I just mentioned on another thread that I know someone who received with only having depression and fibromyalgia. I have both, plus multiple other afflictions, and they denied me and dragged the process out for 3 years!! When people aren't treated the same it's most unfair. And it's true - when some don't have to struggle it's obviously difficult for them to understand how we feel.

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Char

 
Old 01-22-2007, 08:53 PM   #11
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Re: First 3 Year Review

Hi Charlyssa

I am new to the healthboards. While searching the posts, I read your thread about first 3 year review. I also have my first 3CDR coming up in May/07. I was wondering if you could tell me what was your outcome and how long did it take. I feel just as anxious as I was three years ago. Any suggestions would be helpful.

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Hi Charlyssa

I am new to the healthboards. While searching the posts, I read your thread about first 3 year review. I also have my first 3CDR coming up in May/07. I was wondering if you could tell me what was your outcome and how long did it take. I feel just as anxious as I was three years ago. Any suggestions would be helpful.

Thanks Pinkposy
Hi Pinkposy!

Funny you should ask me now! About 3 weeks ago they sent me another packet of papers to fill out, the explanation being that they "needed additional info". It surprised me because I had heard nothing more since last Aug. after submitting the first group of papers - I thought it was over and done with...now this. UGH. This time I received the same papers as last time, plus, an additional section devoted to pain, only, as that is my primary complaint. Also, another section for a friend or relative to complete. These people are relentless! Well, so far I have heard nothing, and nothing else has been expected of me, but I guess we weill see. I will post again when/if I hear from them again. Try not to be concerned, tho. Unless you have improved substantially over the past 3 years, I think they would have a hard time disproving your need to remain on SS. If you have any specific questions, I'm glad to help in any way I can.

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Old 01-23-2007, 07:53 AM   #13
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Re: First 3 Year Review

The reveiw has been hanging over our heads like a black cloud. My husband is supposed to be reviewed within 18 months of the favorable decision. That puts the review due date any time now. He had major surgery in May, '05, and his other conditions that are contributing to his disability both require more surgery (total knee replacement, scoping, and 4 level cervical fusion).

My impression is that The ALJ must have thought he'd tackle all that within a year of his major back surgery and he'd be fine. Have you ever heard of someone taking on that much surgery in a year's time and be completely recovered to return to work? Unfortunately, due to the severity of dh's back alone, he'll never be able to return to work. Hopefully, SC is backlogged and the reviews are delayed in this state. On the other hand, dh's other conditions have gotten worse and that's exactly what would be indicated on the review. He isn't having his next surgery until this summer.

 
Old 03-17-2007, 04:30 PM   #14
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This is my first post on the HealthBoards. I appreciate the opportunity to express myself. I have been on SSDI for depression since 2002. I first received forms to fill out in late 2005. I hadn't heard anything from SSA for over a year so I thought the three year review was finished.

Well, I just received some more forms to fill out as well as an appointment to see a doctor (psychologist). To be continually on a state of alert with SSA is very tough!! The last evaluation lasted only half an hour (or less). Hopefully this evaluation will go as well as the last one.

Best regards.

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Old 03-20-2007, 06:40 AM   #15
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On the other hand, I for one am glad that the Social Security/Disability folks have a policy to push back or question potential fraudulent claims. Some people people just are flat out lying, and it's SSD's job to find out who needs benefits and who is just lazy and just refuses to get better. Lots of Hypochondriacs apply for benefits they really don't need. Social Security is in bad enough shape without having to support people who just need to quit looking for ailments and work with their abilities.

 
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