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Old 12-12-2010, 05:38 PM   #1
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I won at the hearing level in August of 2010. I was then approved for both SSI/SSDI in the first week of September of this year. Received my award letter for both SSI/SSDI. I also received my backpay from SSI. My SSDI award letter says they are withholding my SSDI backpay for the reason of determining if I received SSI (June 2007-September 2010) for the months I'm supposed to receive SSDI (May 2008-September 2010). They said they will send a nother award letter when they are done figuring my SSDI backpay. How do they determine how much backpay I will get from SSDI? Do they subtract the SSI backpay I received from the backpay they said in the SSDI award letter or do they deduct from the months I will receive SSDI? For an example, if I received $1100 in SSDI monthly and $500 monthly for SSI, then I would just receive the difference which is $600 for those months? I'm kind of confused.

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Re: SSI/SSDI Backpay

In most cases you can not receive SSDI and SSI at the same time UNLESS your SSDI award is a very low amount. That is if your SSDI would be less than your SSI award amount. So if SSI were to award you $300/mo and SSDI said you are eligible for $250/mo then you'd get both, $250 from SSDI and $50 from SSI.

Often during the SSDI waiting period people have no resources or income and thus are deemed eligible for SSI. Then when SSDI is awarded they have to go back to figure out what you should have received each month.

As an example:
*You became disabled 11/3/08.
*You had no income or resources and were awarded $300/mo SSI immediately
*December 2010 your SSDI is approved at $1000/mo effective 5/1/09
*SSDI waiting period is 5 full months (Dec 08, Jan 09, Feb 09, March 09, April 09)
*SSDI begins May 2009 at $1000/mo
*From 5/1/09 through present you received $300/mo SSI.
*HOWEVER, you are retroactively not eligible for SSI after your SSDI begins.
*SS does a retro calculation. 5/1/09 through 11/30/10 you were eligible for $1000/mo SSDI but received $300/mo SSI. For each of those months you are due $700/mo.
*So you are due $700/mo for each month 5/1/09 thru 11/30/10 and effective Dec 2010 you get $1000/mo SSDI
*19 mo of $700 = $13, 300

Keep in mind I chose totally random amounts for the example as well as random dates. This is just to help you see how SS looks backwards.

If your SSDI award amount is small then, as noted above, in limited cases you can get SSI and SSDI. Do you know what your SSDI amount shoudl be per month or at least can you estimate it's over $700/mo? If so you can't get SSI and SSDI at the same time for the same months.

I hope this helps. I wrote it out and fixed it a few times. I am tired so it took me a few times to fix the example
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Old 12-12-2010, 07:34 PM   #3
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Re: SSI/SSDI Backpay

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In most cases you can not receive SSDI and SSI at the same time UNLESS your SSDI award is a very low amount. That is if your SSDI would be less than your SSI award amount. So if SSI were to award you $300/mo and SSDI said you are eligible for $250/mo then you'd get both, $250 from SSDI and $50 from SSI.

Often during the SSDI waiting period people have no resources or income and thus are deemed eligible for SSI. Then when SSDI is awarded they have to go back to figure out what you should have received each month.

As an example:
*You became disabled 11/3/08.
*You had no income or resources and were awarded $300/mo SSI immediately
*December 2010 your SSDI is approved at $1000/mo effective 5/1/09
*SSDI waiting period is 5 full months (Dec 08, Jan 09, Feb 09, March 09, April 09)
*SSDI begins May 2009 at $1000/mo
*From 5/1/09 through present you received $300/mo SSI.
*HOWEVER, you are retroactively not eligible for SSI after your SSDI begins.
*SS does a retro calculation. 5/1/09 through 11/30/10 you were eligible for $1000/mo SSDI but received $300/mo SSI. For each of those months you are due $700/mo.
*So you are due $700/mo for each month 5/1/09 thru 11/30/10 and effective Dec 2010 you get $1000/mo SSDI
*19 mo of $700 = $13, 300

Keep in mind I chose totally random amounts for the example as well as random dates. This is just to help you see how SS looks backwards.

If your SSDI award amount is small then, as noted above, in limited cases you can get SSI and SSDI. Do you know what your SSDI amount shoudl be per month or at least can you estimate it's over $700/mo? If so you can't get SSI and SSDI at the same time for the same months.

I hope this helps. I wrote it out and fixed it a few times. I am tired so it took me a few times to fix the example
Thanks for the reply, SpineAZ! To answer your question, yes, it is over $700/monthly. My award letter said I'm not elgible for SSI anymore and I received my first monthly SSDI check for October. Hopefully that answers your question.

 
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Re: SSI/SSDI Backpay

you are going to have to pay back any ss money sent to you-this same thing happened to me-i knew i wasnt elgeble for ss but they sent it to me any ways-now i am still waiting for my ssdi backpay while they figure this out-my onset date is 1/27/2007 so ssdi owes me quite a bit, since 7/27/2007 and now we are going into 2011 -all they have to do is deduct what ss sent me from what ssdi owes me but apparantly it isnt quite that simple-but at least i am getting disibility, getting my monthly cks on the 3rd of each month-they started this past sept 2010, and i have medicare part A & B. and eventually i will get my ssdi backpay too. so, i have a lot to be greatful for. i know so many of you are going thru the tough nerve racking battle of trying to win your benefits and my heart goes out to all of you-i know what you are going thru-but you musnt give up-just pray and pray and pray, aand if i can be of any help-since i have been thru this very tough fight-please dont hesitate-sometimes if you share what is going on in this ss battle another may be able to suggest something from there own experience with the ssdi quest for your benefits

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