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Old 02-04-2012, 12:38 PM   #1
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I just HAD to write this down and I thought this would be the place that would understand.
I am SOOOOOO tired of explaining myself and my illness to people.
There is NO WAY in this world that anyone would EVER tell a person with cancer or someone paralyzed in a wheel chair, just snap out of it, pray and read your bible and things will get better. So WHY, do they insist on telling people who suffer from mental illness, oh it's just in your head, just snap out of it, oh that's just of the devil, read your bible and pray and you'll be ok?
I do pray every day, and read my bible, but I can't snap out of it....I wouldn't know how to snap out of it. I have an illness, I don't WANT to have this, but I do. If one more person tells me to just snap out of it, I'm going to snap alright.....Grrrrrrr
I think it's because it's an illness that you can't see, like you can see if someone is in a wheel chair, the the effects of someone who has cancer, but you can't see mental illness, so if they can't see it, then it must not be there.....right?
Ok, I got that off my chest Now I feel ALL better

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I just HAD to write this down and I thought this would be the place that would understand.
I am SOOOOOO tired of explaining myself and my illness to people.
There is NO WAY in this world that anyone would EVER tell a person with cancer or someone paralyzed in a wheel chair, just snap out of it, pray and read your bible and things will get better. So WHY, do they insist on telling people who suffer from mental illness, oh it's just in your head, just snap out of it, oh that's just of the devil, read your bible and pray and you'll be ok?
I do pray every day, and read my bible, but I can't snap out of it....I wouldn't know how to snap out of it. I have an illness, I don't WANT to have this, but I do. If one more person tells me to just snap out of it, I'm going to snap alright.....Grrrrrrr
I think it's because it's an illness that you can't see, like you can see if someone is in a wheel chair, the the effects of someone who has cancer, but you can't see mental illness, so if they can't see it, then it must not be there.....right?
Ok, I got that off my chest Now I feel ALL better

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Boy do I hear you ! I have a brother who is seriously mentally ill will get to feeling better stop taking his medications stop seeing his doctors, and then disappear for weeks sometimes months at a time. It makes me so angry when someone does not understand why you worry and spend time looking for them. Tell you they are an adult so what's the big deal they choose to take off. Not really it is the illness that is in control when this happens not the person.

 
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Re: Something I need to get off my chest

mental illness is what I like to call 'hidden "disabilites" People cannot see it, because itis not physical, however every bit as devastating . For me, I really do not talk about the stuff I have, I have had something since 16 yrs old, placed in mental hospitals lived in them for nearly 2 years as a teenager, only to replace one after the other. Their were times of stability, and other times when I was not . I try and convimce myself by telling myself who cares that I am suppose to take 10 different meds a day? It is only between the DR. and myself, nobody needs to know the extent of what is happeneing. Even I don't want to know . Sometimes menal illness can affect physical problems too , making it so much more complicated. Even when a person is approved for benefits others can call it a "crazy check" it is not fun at all, and it is as serious as any other condition. Nobody needs to know , it is not their buisness to know , just keep doing your best and ignore the rude people who are ignorant. You don't have to explain at all , it is none of their buisness.

 
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I feel you Leasy. My ex left me cause I wouldn't "snap out of it" meds sometimes work and sometimes they don't. I'm fortunate to have few good days here and there or I don't know where I would be today. People also don't understand that the mind tells you to not take meds sometimes and we really feel it afterwards. I've had several times where I thought I could quite and that is not the answer. I don't worry what people say anymore and just try to stick to my routine cause for too many years I would live for other people and neglected myself. No more.

 
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I just HAD to write this down and I thought this would be the place that would understand.
I am SOOOOOO tired of explaining myself and my illness to people.
There is NO WAY in this world that anyone would EVER tell a person with cancer or someone paralyzed in a wheel chair, just snap out of it, pray and read your bible and things will get better. So WHY, do they insist on telling people who suffer from mental illness, oh it's just in your head, just snap out of it, oh that's just of the devil, read your bible and pray and you'll be ok?
I do pray every day, and read my bible, but I can't snap out of it....I wouldn't know how to snap out of it. I have an illness, I don't WANT to have this, but I do. If one more person tells me to just snap out of it, I'm going to snap alright.....Grrrrrrr
I think it's because it's an illness that you can't see, like you can see if someone is in a wheel chair, the the effects of someone who has cancer, but you can't see mental illness, so if they can't see it, then it must not be there.....right?
Ok, I got that off my chest Now I feel ALL better

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I totally get what you are saying. Like Mscat, I am also a mental health sufferer. For a longtime, there was a stigma attached with anyone considered having a mental illness. Altho it is discussed more openly today, many people are still in the closet so to speak and feel reluctant to tell anyone except the doctor or mental health specialist who is treating them for fear as being labeled crazy. For many years, I was convinced I had some horrible physical illness and the doctors could not discover what it was so they labeled me a mental patient.

I am actually a late comer to mental illness. My life was great until about age 28 when I started feeling weird, like I was seriously ill. After I had my 1st panic attack which felt like a heart attack to me, it was downhill from there. I was able to work for 20 years with the aid of Rx meds but age and tolerance to meds after all those years finally took its toll on me and now I find myself unable to work.

Don't feel bad Leasy617. Mental illness is really no different than a purely physical illness. Something has simply gone wrong with the wiring in the organ we call the brain and we feel these very painful emotions in what we call the mind. Everyone gets anxious and depressed from time to time but when an anxiety or depressive disorder causes you to feel these things all the time, intensely, with no cause, it can be devastating to your life.

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Old 02-04-2012, 04:33 PM   #6
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Re: Something I need to get off my chest

I agree with everyone else here so far. As a mental illness sufferer and the reason I'm on disability, it does anger me at times to hear people tell me "It's all in your head", really?, yeah I know it's in my head, why don't you trying living in my head a day and you'll never want to question me again. My Dad said the same thing to me Leasy, Go to Church and Get over it. I wanted to slap him in the face..lol. Feeling like your gonna die everyday of something isn't something you just get over. The majority of people need to be more educated on mental illnesses.

 
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Re: Something I need to get off my chest

I'm not saying that going to church, reading the bible and praying doesn't help, but they aren't cures. I know God CAN heal......Not to be preaching here, but the Apostle Paul prayed that a thorn in his side be removed, but God told him no, my grace in sufficient for you. Meaning, sometimes we have to go through what we have to go through, but just trust Him.
That was hard to do yesterday and today. I have been very manic and have REALLY suffered. When I get like this I can't function at all. I would LOVE to snap out of it, I just wished some of these brilliant minded people would show me how to snap......LOL

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I also think mental illness runs in families, Just my opinion. I have so many family members who have taken thier own lives and sadly they suffered quitely. I think it is a chemical like they say. I suffer at times with it but I wouldn't even want to know how it would be if I suffered everyday it would be so horrible my heart goes out to those that have to deal with this on a day to day minitue to minitue basic. Really people that don't understand it need to remmber when they were sad at a situation and think how would they feel if they felt that way for a long period of time non stop. :angel

 
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I agree jgrangran. MI has a strong genetic component. Hope you had a great weekend.

 
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I agree with everyone else here so far. As a mental illness sufferer and the reason I'm on disability, it does anger me at times to hear people tell me "It's all in your head", really?, yeah I know it's in my head, why don't you trying living in my head a day and you'll never want to question me again. My Dad said the same thing to me Leasy, Go to Church and Get over it. I wanted to slap him in the face..lol. Feeling like your gonna die everyday of something isn't something you just get over. The majority of people need to be more educated on mental illnesses.
Yeah, I agree PanicAttacker. I spent 30 days in a mental hospital in 2006. Things had gotten so bad for me until I tried to end my life. During that time, I could not find any relief. The drugs I was taking had stopped working and I was in mental hell 24/7...could not eat or sleep or relax. Luckily, the hospital was able to switch some medications around and pull me out of it.

 
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I also agree mental illness has a genetic componete to it. nobody likes to hear from their psychatrist 'You have a personality disorder" how does one change their personality? Deeply engrained behaviors that are there and cannot disappear. It was not comforting to know that the same diagoses is given after 25+ years before, and then more mental illness now then ever before, compounding the illness even more then ever. Thinking oh God, I have a son now i am a single parent who cannot even handle her own mental illness's , thankfully I had family to help. A couple times getting 5150'd without having any control over the outcome. or every time going to the Psychatrist who has seen you multiple times wants to place you on yet again anther medication. Some of his diagnoses, i had to research it, or research the new medication , and what it is use for , + be careful about drinking on these kinds of medications. I do not discuss thiese things only with my therapist who I have seen for years , and the treating DR. Everybody else can all go to he** , it feels like they would not understand anyway and they have no right to question why a person who suffers everyday who applies for disability beneifts under mental impairments.

 
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Theere is a new drug I heard on the TV it works differently and its fast acting it start with a k wish I could remmber what it was called. It's called Special K Ketamine it used to be known they say as a club drug.

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I just HAD to write this down and I thought this would be the place that would understand.
I am SOOOOOO tired of explaining myself and my illness to people.
There is NO WAY in this world that anyone would EVER tell a person with cancer or someone paralyzed in a wheel chair, just snap out of it, pray and read your bible and things will get better. So WHY, do they insist on telling people who suffer from mental illness, oh it's just in your head, just snap out of it, oh that's just of the devil, read your bible and pray and you'll be ok?
I do pray every day, and read my bible, but I can't snap out of it....I wouldn't know how to snap out of it. I have an illness, I don't WANT to have this, but I do. If one more person tells me to just snap out of it, I'm going to snap alright.....Grrrrrrr
I think it's because it's an illness that you can't see, like you can see if someone is in a wheel chair, the the effects of someone who has cancer, but you can't see mental illness, so if they can't see it, then it must not be there.....right?
Ok, I got that off my chest Now I feel ALL better

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People think we can just 'snap out of it', because they can't see our thought processes or know how we feel inside. For example, depression. It is one thing to be an outside observer and wonder why a person isn't groomed or can't do something simple like hang some pictures on the wall, walk or enjoy the sunset. (For example, i have struggled with depression for years and would have to have a particularly good day to even think of buying something decorative or beyond a bare essential, or even stopping at a store randomly just to browse.....the pleasure (or dopamine) center in my brain is dead. Can't relax in the company of others because i'm constantly worried about doing or saying the wrong thing.....can't relax, ever. I think of every catastrophe imaginable and, with lightning speed, my brain comes up with an extremely convoluted reason say typing a certain word in an email will lead to that catastrophe. With each little avoidance, I have a very specific, logical reason for avoiding it, even though an outside observer might see no connection to the actual feared event. However, life itself feels very uncertain and random with no guarantees; i'm not content with just accepting the uncertainty and accepting that there are catastrophes and that people suffer all over the world. Reality is actually depressing to me, as freak events and horrible tragedies do occur...to anyone.....so what is there to hang onto?

Mental illness is something you cannot just 'snap out of'. It is a combination of our thoughts and emotions.....a person whose reward center is messed up won't be striving for the same things as a person with a normal reward system. Reality seems so subjective anyway, all we really have to hang onto are our thoughts and feelings. A rock may give one person pleasure and the next person pain or indifference. What is the point of anything.. Is all that matters what we feel and how others feel.....or is what matters what is culturally accepted to matter? What will be the end result of my taking a risk and facing my fears since there are NO guarantees in life? Can I be content accepting that there are no guarantees, that life is a random mess and we are all one step away from (feared whatever)?

'Snapping out of' mental illness means changing a person's entire worldview, to perhaps skew your perspective (if you are depressed) into thinking that there is a benevolent end to everything (or most things). As a person with a mental illness, my beliefs are different from the next person's. I want to feel the way 'normal' people feel but can't. I'm unable to change my thoughts to reflect a more positive view than what my gut already says. I think feelings and emotions are a large part of why people don't easily understand mental illness. Some of us have such painful emotions that we can't see the next day....we want to get rid of the pain NOW. And sometimes this involves making choices that we regret later, thus making our interaction with the environment even worse. An outside observer is very unlikely to understand all of the details, what would cause a person to become mentally ill in the first place.

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@Leasy: I can totally empathize with your pain. My SIL told me one time that she would trade 20 years of her life just to have 1 year of "normalcy" without all the ups/downs/meds/hospitals, etc. and *especially* without the stares, judgements, and rudeness of uninformed jerks.

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My mother said the same thing to me Leasy and the fact that she lived with me and I had to hear her make disparaging comments about people who needed antidepressants was especially hard. Since I was also on many different types of them. She would look at the commercials and call the people weak. It was so hurtful because I know that I'm one of the people she is speaking of.

It took her a few years (when she went back to school for nursing and did her own bit of research) to realize what I was really going through. And now she's one of the biggest advocates for me to get disability. I've been trying since 2007.

I once had a doctor tell me that it was all about my soul. A Doctor, can you imagine! She was so understanding of the fact that I was dealing with both physical and mental disabilities, but as soon as I talked about needing help with gettin disability she completely flipped the script. After I had enough time to process what actually happened I cried. My own doctor said this crap to me when she was suppose to know better. I left that doctor immediately!

I always say try telling a cancer to meditate and see how far that gets you. I have fibromyalgia among other things and its like if you don't understand it mr doctor man, how about you do a little research. Or better yet send me to someone who knows what they are doing. Ugh, it's so frustrating.

 
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