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Old 02-25-2011, 10:48 AM   #1
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Need Help...Frightened in NJ....Is this Vertigo???

This actually started on January 20, 2011.

I was laying down in bed, when I sat up, the room was spinning. I had never experienced this sensation before. When I layed back down, it seemed to subside somewhat. I attributed it to either getting up too quickly, or stress. I had been under a lot of stress at work, plus I was having Thyroid surgery on 1/31, which I was starting to get nervous about.

When I woke up the next morning for work and went in the shower...I felt like I had to hold on to the walls or I would fall. Needless to say I got out of the shower very quickly...and I'm sure I had an anxiety attack at that point as I did not know what was happening to me.

My friend gave me 1/2 a mecklazine pill (12.5) that night...which just made me sleep.

I started to feel better...went to work the next week, even worked out with my trainer 2 times in the evening...no dizziness. I was able to do all my errands on the weekend, getting ready for my thyroid surgery...again no dizziness.

On Monday 1/31 I left for my surgery, I was quite nervous, which I think is pretty normal. I did notice in the car, that I felt a little off balance, almost like motion sickness (I was not driving)...but again attributed it to being nervous about my thyroid surgery.

When I woke up after my surgery...I was dizzy and nauseated, which is pretty normal after having anesthesia.

When I finally started waking up, I noticed my right ear was extremely clogged...plugged up similar to what you experience in an airplane but a lot worse. Since I had just had Thyroid surgery, I was unable to yawn and try to unplug my ears because of the stitches in my throat.

When I saw the surgeon the next day and told him about my right ear being so plugged up, he said that sometimes the ear on the side of the surgery gets water behind the inner ear, but it works its way out.

I would like to preface this all by saying my ears always feel plugged up...I have TMJ, sinus problems...but never as bad as I experienced after surgery. I aso have some herniated discs in my neck, not sure if that has any bearing.

I was released from the hospital the next day after surgery, and truthfully layed on my couch for a week because I was so tired and so uncomfortable...plus I felt very dizzy which I was still attributing to the anesthesia. The dizzy off balance feeling was terrible when I walked.

The following week I had my stitches removed...and started trying to move around a bit more.

I noticed that every time I went food shopping I was having what I would call massive panic attacks. They all started after I was walking up and down the aisles, looking around, up and down at the food products on the shelves. I felt like everything started spinning, and I was very off balance. This happens every time I go food shopping.

I went to see my regular MD and explained my symptoms, and he said it very common, called it Benign Positional Vertigo.

While I feel better than I did the 1st week I was recovering from surgery...I still feel like I am dizzy and off balance all the time now, especially when I walk. Depending on my head position, the amount of dizziness varies.

I noticed that when I am driving it is not that bad. When I am laying down it seems to alleviate the dizziness completely. When I am sitting with my head still, I feel a little better. If I even move my head a hair though, I can feel the dizziness in my head. Since my 1st bout of dizziness happened before my surgery, I would not think the surgery has anything to do with the "vertigo" I am constantly feeling now.

Does this sound like Vertigo or should I be concerned that it is something more serious?

My MD said that these things typically resolve themselves in 6 weeks,,,but don't be surprised if it comes back.

Should I see a neurologist??? I am terrified. I feel very off balance when I walk. I have to return to work on Monday and I am hoping I can function.

Any help would be much appreciated.

 
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Old 02-27-2011, 07:38 AM   #2
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Re: Need Help...Frightened in NJ....Is this Vertigo???

Jog read this post Resistant BPPV: I cannot fix it!, however I am concerned about the fact you just had surgery? Also the statement about Bppv just going away it self,thats not how it works ,press your doctor for more facts and help. good luck

 
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Re: Need Help...Frightened in NJ....Is this Vertigo???

JOG, I hope you have seen your doctor by now. I recommend an Ear Nose & Throat doctor (ENT). Does sound like my vertigo symptoms and I had a hard time in the supermarket too. Looking down gets me the most nauseous. There is help out there, although each of us experiences something a little different, I found this site helpful. Check with your doctor first to make sure you can take this -- but try Chlor-Trimeton which is an over the counter antihistimine (I just tried it yesterday and already feel better -- this bout has only lasted about 3 weeks and is less severe). I believe I experienced your symptoms about 12 years ago -- it was bad and I could barely function. My old ENT did some testing and recommended that I eliminate all caffeine, any added salt, and alcohol in my diet. Believe it or not, it actually helped. This time, the ENT also gave me vestibular exercises. Although I've only started, they are only making me more dizzy with the movement of my eyes up and down, back and forth. I hope it will help eventually but am so happy that someone on the website mentioned the Chlor-Trimeton because I feel about 90% better in only 1-1/2 days. Best of luck to you!
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Re: Need Help...Frightened in NJ....Is this Vertigo???

I underwent surgery two weeks ago to remove my right ovary. For the first week after surgery, I was dizzy all the time. The dizziness has subsided a lot but now I have vertigo symptoms that won't seem to go away. When I lay down or sit up or bend over, I experience vertigo. I have my two-week follow up appointment tomorrow... it'll be interesting to see what my doc says.

 
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keep me posted lori, hopefully it will pass.

my vertigo is starting to subside...still have some trouble in the supermarket, i tjink all the turning and bending must be a trigger.

i also believe my surgery may have had something to do with the dizziness, i'm sure i got fluid behind my middle ear, plus the anesthesia didn't help. i also think that my partial thyroidectomy, the whole hormonal thing was a contributing factor too,

 
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Re: Need Help...Frightened in NJ....Is this Vertigo???

Given the positional nature of your symptoms, BPPV is likely. Most cases are treated with the Epley maneuver, and this treatment is extremely effective in most patients. Talk to your doctor about seeing a specialist who can diagnose and treat this disorder.

 
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Re: Need Help...Frightened in NJ....Is this Vertigo???

I am not sure but a few people have asked me whether or not I was under a lot of stress. Work is hectic as a rule for me so I guess my answer is yes! I am now wondering if the stress could trigger the vertigo because a lot of us have mentioned it now. Does anyone actually know if this is true?
Additionally, my vertigo is lessening but I believe mostly in conjunction with stopping the Meclizine 12.5 mg. 2x daily. I tried to tell the dr. that it was making me worse on dose #3 but they (he and the pharmacist) didn't take me seriously -- I was having severe dizziness and getting bad headaches and was worse than I was to start with. I took that medicine for about 21 days and I was worse for it. I stopped the Rx on 3/25 and started taking the Chlor-Trimeton again (I finally found more in CVS, Kmart, and Walmart stores) and as long as I take it every 4-5 hours so (eventually I will take the 12 hour pills), I am much improved. I am upset with myself for not holding my ground which allowed me to be so sick for so long. I missed a lot of work and am out of sick time, now using my vacation time. Not good...
My suggestion is listen to YOUR OWN BODY because you know yourself the best. If you are not happy with the answers your doctor(s) is/are giving you, continue to seek out someone to help you. This website does provide lots of support and insite. Hang in there and feel better!
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Re: Need Help...Frightened in NJ....Is this Vertigo???

Meclizine (And all antiverts) is a vestibular suppressant and should only be used if you are really dizzy and nauseated. However, if the problem is in no way associated with the vestibular system, then an antivert could actually make symptoms worse. If a person is dizzy from a non-vestibular related problem, then their brain will rely even stronger on the input from the vestibular system to help maintain spacial orientation. Antivert medications suppress the vestibular system, and in this case, at a time when the body heavily relies upon this system, thus leading to increased dizziness.

I am glad to hear that the Chlor-Trimeton has helped you, it sounds like you have reason to suspect that your symptoms are related to allergies, specifically the sinuses and/or middle ear.

I would suggest that you continue experimenting with Chlor-Trimeton and document your results. Then you should take this information to see another doctor (preferably ENT).

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Meclizine (And all antiverts) is a vestibular suppressant and should only be used if you are really dizzy and nauseated. However, if the problem is in no way associated with the vestibular system, then an antivert could actually make symptoms worse. If a person is dizzy from a non-vestibular related problem, then their brain will rely even stronger on the input from the vestibular system to help maintain spacial orientation. Antivert medications suppress the vestibular system, and in this case, at a time when the body heavily relies upon this system, thus leading to increased dizziness.

I am glad to hear that the Chlor-Trimeton has helped you, it sounds like you have reason to suspect that your symptoms are related to allergies, specifically the sinuses and/or middle ear.

I would suggest that you continue experimenting with Chlor-Trimeton and document your results. Then you should take this information to see another doctor (preferably ENT).
Hi again and thanks for your input! I originally saw my ENT, then eye doctor (eyes felt like they were jumping back and forth while trying to read typewritten text), and then my neurologist. The ENT said he thought it might be something viral affecting my inner ear. The eye dr. said it was definitely neurological. The neurologist has not given me very much info yet -- did an EEG about 2 weeks ago which was normal. I go back to see him on 4/11 but am not looking forward to it. I do recall him saying something about the labyrinth. The last few years I have suffered pretty badly from sinus headaches/pressure and allergies beginning around this time of year so maybe the Chlor-Trimeton will help that. I also have 2 prescription nasal sprays and am now taking Singulair for the first time during allergy season. Hate this!

I will take your advice and see the ENT again though. I was also interested in finding a neurotologist (spelling?) also but tried searching the local area here and came up empty.

In your opinion, is it possible for stress or hormone levels to contribute to the vertigo symptoms? I don't have the severe spinning sensation like I had 12 years ago. Back then, they gave me Antivert 25 mg. -- I could barely stay awake. Between that and eliminating caffeine, added salt, and alcohol from my diet ... I did eventually improve after suffering for 6 months!

I'm open to your suggestions -- thanks for your help!
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Hi again and thanks for your input! I originally saw my ENT, then eye doctor (eyes felt like they were jumping back and forth while trying to read typewritten text), and then my neurologist. The ENT said he thought it might be something viral affecting my inner ear. The eye dr. said it was definitely neurological. The neurologist has not given me very much info yet -- did an EEG about 2 weeks ago which was normal. I go back to see him on 4/11 but am not looking forward to it. I do recall him saying something about the labyrinth. The last few years I have suffered pretty badly from sinus headaches/pressure and allergies beginning around this time of year so maybe the Chlor-Trimeton will help that. I also have 2 prescription nasal sprays and am now taking Singulair for the first time during allergy season. Hate this!

I will take your advice and see the ENT again though. I was also interested in finding a neurotologist (spelling?) also but tried searching the local area here and came up empty.

In your opinion, is it possible for stress or hormone levels to contribute to the vertigo symptoms? I don't have the severe spinning sensation like I had 12 years ago. Back then, they gave me Antivert 25 mg. -- I could barely stay awake. Between that and eliminating caffeine, added salt, and alcohol from my diet ... I did eventually improve after suffering for 6 months!

I'm open to your suggestions -- thanks for your help!
It is a great idea to see an otologist/neurotologist since they super-specialize in the functions of the ear. They can do an ENG test to measure the function of the vestibular system. This is a good measure to get a thorough examination on the vestibular system, since it is the main means of balance in the body.

Has your neurologist given consideration to MAV? It seems unlikely that you have MAV, but since you are seeing a neurologist already, you might as well ask him about it.

You mentioned in an earlier post that you get most dizzy when looking down, have you given consideration to BPPV?

If the Chlor-Trimeton truly has helped you, then that seems like a substantial understanding of the problem. It may be allergy related. It is also possible that you are suffering from both allergies and another type of problem.

Hormones (menstruation time for females) typically exacerbates most types of dizziness/vertigo, but that doesnt mean that it is the cause of the dizziness/vertigo. I doubt that hormones alone would cause your symptoms, but I am not an expert on this. I just havent heard about it happening.

These are just some things to think about, a process of elimination can help to better understand the problem.

 
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It is a great idea to see an otologist/neurotologist since they super-specialize in the functions of the ear. They can do an ENG test to measure the function of the vestibular system. This is a good measure to get a thorough examination on the vestibular system, since it is the main means of balance in the body.

Has your neurologist given consideration to MAV? It seems unlikely that you have MAV, but since you are seeing a neurologist already, you might as well ask him about it.

You mentioned in an earlier post that you get most dizzy when looking down, have you given consideration to BPPV?

If the Chlor-Trimeton truly has helped you, then that seems like a substantial understanding of the problem. It may be allergy related. It is also possible that you are suffering from both allergies and another type of problem.

Hormones (menstruation time for females) typically exacerbates most types of dizziness/vertigo, but that doesnt mean that it is the cause of the dizziness/vertigo. I doubt that hormones alone would cause your symptoms, but I am not an expert on this. I just havent heard about it happening.

These are just some things to think about, a process of elimination can help to better understand the problem.

Hi there! Apologies for the delayed response -- tried from work on Friday and the server crashed. I have had the ENG test about 12 yrs ago when I had the vertigo the last time but I don't recall the outcome. I will ask about it again though.

I don't know if they considered MAV or BPPV and I have only done some reading on each -- guessing they were both considered. I would imagine that allergies/sinuses could be the total cause. I do know that my ears have been ringing almost constantly since I started with this bout of vertigo since approx. 2/14. I also have recently noticed tingling in my left arm -- mostly my fingers. I remember that subject coming up somewhere along the lines but cannot remember where. What were your thoughst on stress causing vertigo problems?

I take a beta blocker to slow my heartbeat down (previously Toprol XR/metoprolol and now nadolol/Corgard) which they tell me will help to eliminate many of my migraines. I also used to take amitriptlyne which was to prevent my many migraines. Therefore, since I am a migraine sufferer, I do expect that MAV was considered. I will speak more on it once I have seen the neurologist again.

In the meantime, I will continue to pay close attention to my symptoms and take the Chlor-Trimeton. I found your prior comments on the meclizine very interesting and will make sure I mention that when I see the neurologies on 4/11 for my follow-up. I will also continue to look for a neurotologist. I will make an appt again to see my ENT.

Thank you once again for the information and comments. Your insight is always appreciated. I hope you are feeling OK yourself. Until next time ...
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