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Old 12-12-2011, 06:04 PM   #1
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Help Needed- Advice please

Hi Guys,

Long time vistitor-first time poster.

I was hoping to get some feed back on my issues! So heres my story

2009
Had dizzy spell in bathroom, Felt like i was on boat-room moving
When turn in car, felt as if the car was leaning over more than it actually was (multiple times)

2010
Felt ground moving multiple times- like on trampoline or boat.

2010 October
Sitting at work on computer felt as if someone had pushed my forward but i didnt not move.
Left with a spaced out feeling like headin a fishbowl, dreamlike state. this has lessened over time but is still there.
Disequilibrium
Ground moving-boat trampoline
Terrible neck and back tightness
Sore eyes, locked into focussing on things.
Anxiety

2011
Neck and back tighness has eased off
Still feel as if ground moves
Face and head pressure ongoing
Tightness through my neck, scalp, and face.
Sore, tired eyes
Headaches
Disquilibrium- constant rocking mainly noticibly when sitting
Ground still feels as if it moves underneath my feet
The latest symptom has been visual symptoms
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  • Things move base line
  • When looking downwards vision sort of swirls
  • When watching tv or on computer if the horizon moves i feel as i move with it
  • Feel as though my eyes have taken over

I have seen a neuologist had mri, ct- nothing sinister
I have seen a dizzy specialist, beleives i had vestibular event that caused all these issues.
I have seen a phsychologist for CBT

Has anyone had the same sort of issues? I have been trying to do VRT but i feel 10 times as worse the next day, this normal?
Any help would be greatly appreciated

Thanks guys

 
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Old 12-16-2011, 07:00 AM   #2
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Re: Help Needed- Advice please

Was the dizzy specialist you saw an ENT? Have you seen an opthamologist? Did doc give you anything to help calm your vestibular system? I've had those symptoms caused by vestibular events. Hope you find an answer soon.

 
Old 03-02-2012, 07:14 PM   #3
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Re: Help Needed- Advice please

I know it's been a few months since you posted this but I'll offer my opinions. I've been struggling with the same thing although not as long as you. Here's what I've found out.

I believe that the neck and shoulder tension is actually part of the problem for you, as it is for me. I believe the tension in your neck is affecting the muscles around your ears, particularly your jaw/TMJ muscles. I was to a chiropractor a few days ago who says she has two clients that have TMJ problems and their only symptom is dizziness.

After my dizzy problem started (and before also) I've went to chiropractors and massage therapists but they have been unable to resolve the chronic tension problem in my shoulders and neck, which then extends into my face including the jaw areas. I've finally concluded that most chiropractors are not trained and prepared to recognize and handle this kind of problem.

I did start treatment with someone that does Structural Integration work (also known as Rolfing). It sounds to me like this is probably one of the only ways to alleviate this kind of problem.

A Rolfer will try to put your body back into proper alignment which will allow your tight muscles to relax.

One reason I believe it's related to tension in the jaw/ear area is because I've had lots of trouble for a few years already with muscle tension in my shoulders and neck which climbs up into my head. But my dizziness, disequilibrium, and tinnitus started after a visit to the dentist. Hanging my mouth open for so long resulted in increased neck and TMJ tension which apparently brought on the disequilibrium.

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Old 03-06-2012, 09:34 AM   #4
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Re: Help Needed- Advice please

dyyzzee - i completely agree with what you are saying. I've had similar problems and it turns out my spine and neck have potentially been the root of the problem, not to mention tmj. One thing i would also like to point out is that anyone with a balance/disequilibrium/vertigo problem can also suffer from neck and shoulder tension as a RESULT of the problem too.

Eg. someone with say Menieres and the associated vertigo can suffer muscle tension because of the subconscious constant compensations they are making to feel balanced. I was told (cant remember by whom) that your proprioception (in relation to joints) is ranked in importance for balance 1. ankles 2. knees 3. hips/pelvis 4. collar bone 5. neck 6. jaw working upwards, but that the process of compensated also works in the same order and ultimately leads the worst of the tension to where the process ends ie shoulders, neck and jaw (including facial pain in my experience).
Visual vertigo (as a symptom of skeletal or spinal alignment, vestibular disorder, sensory integration problems etc) really compounds any existing root cause for imbalance or disequilibrium.
I'm really curious to try this Rolfing - could you tell me more please.
Mustardizzy - when working on the computer (and really concentrating on it) i actually feel as if my ears open up (the same feeling almost like sensing that someone has walked into the room). My explanation is that when my eyes are busy with something close up, my ears try to compensate for them because i'm so reliant on them normally (my eyes i mean). I get many of the same eye symptoms Mustardizzy. I know it's difficult to describe but i completely understand.

 
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Re: Help Needed- Advice please

Sorry to rattle on and on but I just had to mention that it's really unclear to me what the underlying cause of dizziness is in TMJ, sternocleidomastoid, cervicogenic, or migraine related dizziness. Lots of writings indicate that it's neurological which, as I understand, means either brain or nerve. Somewhere else I picked up on the idea that there might be a connection between certain muscles and the inner ear. Unless someone can shed more light on this, I really thing it's rather inconclusive at this point.

 
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Re: Help Needed- Advice please

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Sorry to rattle on and on but I just had to mention that it's really unclear to me what the underlying cause of dizziness is in TMJ, sternocleidomastoid, cervicogenic, or migraine related dizziness. Lots of writings indicate that it's neurological which, as I understand, means either brain or nerve. Somewhere else I picked up on the idea that there might be a connection between certain muscles and the inner ear. Unless someone can shed more light on this, I really thing it's rather inconclusive at this point.
I know exactly where you're coming from. I sometimes think i understand it then i think "wait a minute, how does that affect that again?".

My very basic understanding is this:
something is giving the brain faulty information about where the body is in space and how it's positioned in the process of maintaining balance and moving around. Aside from the whole neurological thing (that only a neurologist could understand), any unnatural muscle shortening (through injury, bad posture, a knock on effect from another part of the body, tension, etc) can effect the messages being sent to the brain. The other senses/organs required for balance then try to compensate for that faulty part. Then they can end up over compensating and sending faulty messages themselves in the respect that they have become over sensitive. TMJ can be related to tension.
A problem with eyesight or function can result in difficulty using sight (an important sense for balance). Migraine can also affect how visual stimuli is processed.
In short, i personally think of this whole subject really as a problem in taking in and processing visual, auditory or physical information for balance, and the knock-on effect that has on the other senses trying to compensate for it. If the other senses/organs manage to compensate properly, then there's no need to be looking at this forum. And yes it is all inconclusive, that's the whole point unfortunately, that it's inconclusive and that's why all these things are so difficult to diagnose and treat. Hope that helps, just my opinion - been trying to work it all out for years

 
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