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anfieldkid 12-02-2012 04:00 PM

Vertigo and Tinnitus
 
Hi

In July 2012 I got noise-induced tinnitus from a nightclub, a week later I got checked by an audiologist and it was confirmed by her that at 4000 decibels I think thats what it was their is a decrease in my hearing which she confirmed to me is tinnitus.

I was fine for 2 months except the obvious ringing. In September I had my first panic attack in my life due to mixing a gym supplement that increases metabolism and taking flu medicine called Corenza C.. bad mistake I know, could that have attacked my nerves by any chance?

Anyway so since that day 2 months of having tinnitus I Started feeling dizzy and now for 3 months Ive been dizzy, it comes and goes....Its not 24/7 but I definetely feel some kind of dizziness atleast once a day. Can the tinnitus b causing this? I feel sometimes when I lie down that Im floating and when Im sitting or standing like Im moving but im actually not.

Who must I see to check for this? ENT or audiologist? Is their a way to check for inner ear damage? Is their medication to relief the syptoms of the dizziness? Thanks

anfieldkid 12-05-2012 11:01 AM

Re: Vertigo and Tinnitus
 
Anyone can help please?

Gander 25 12-06-2012 11:27 AM

Re: Vertigo and Tinnitus
 
I suffer from vertigo frequently and occasionaly the ringing in my ear is bad.

Today I have vertigo and have to stay home from work. Cant drive like this.

I would go see an ENT for your condition.It may take a while to get diagnosed correctly, but eventually you will.

RenoMr 12-06-2012 03:32 PM

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So, I'm not a doctor, but I am someone who has experienced something like you have.

Here's the first bit of advice: start with an ENT. They will give you a full work-up and take it from there. Yes, there are tests, including balance tests, tests where they run warm and cool air over your eardrums and more detailed hearing tests. Sometimes they'll order a CT or MRI to rule out anything neurological. Don't be alarmed if they order that. It's a precautionary thing.

What they'll really be looking for is to see if you have Meniere's Disease, which can range from mild (like mine) to severe (people who can no longer drive and have to go on disability because they have strong attacks out of the blue). They'll also check to see if you're just experiencing BPPV, which is basically when the crystals in your inner ear are free floating, causing that awful spinning sensation in your head. Lots of people just have BPPV. Also let them know if you're experiencing sensitivity to sounds (hyperacussis) along with the tinnitus.

If it's Meniere's or BPPV, treatments range from the Epley maneuver, which can be performed at home without a doctor, to lowering your sodium intake drastically (that worked for me the best) to gentamicin injections in your eardrum. I even benefit greatly from sleeping only on my back and not rolling over, the latter of which can cause pretty bad vertigo for me.

I would doubt the workout supplement you took has any correlation with your symptoms. Rather, it probably just heightened your awareness of how you're feeling. Anxiety attacks are not uncommon with Meniere's and/or BPPV, in my first-hand experience.

But, above all, make an appointment with an ENT. Understanding what's causing this and personally taking control of your own care goes a long way to putting you on the road to improvement.

Hit me up with any questions or clarifications, and hang in there.

anfieldkid 12-09-2012 02:56 PM

Re: Vertigo and Tinnitus
 
Hey
I saw a Neurosurgeon on Friday.

I dont know how legit he actually he was but it was at Private Hospital so I guess he knows what he is doing, but I say this because of the following:

We spoke abit about my symptoms and he did some movement tests with my hands elbows abit of tapping on them etc....

We than sat down and said I have B9 something or other , so I didnt understand what it was and he said its essentially BBPV...

Can one diagnose that its BBPV just by doing that small little test?

He said it should take 1 - 2 years to clear up...is that also true or is it permanent?

He said its close relation to Meniere's but it isnt Meniere's... is that true?

Some of the symptoms I told him was:

Dizziness comes and goes
Nausea but no vomiting
Feeling of floating or moving when lying down or standing still

I forgot to mention that my ears feel quite sensitive especially to LOUD noises they almost feel "blocked"?

What can u gather about whate Ive said? Thanks

RenoMr 12-11-2012 02:26 PM

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I'm glad you saw someone. That's the first step to figuring out what's wrong. The movement tests may have been to rule out anything neurological, so it sounds like you passed that part fine.

If it's BPPV, that's actually pretty good news, because you can adopt some strategies to deal with it and keep it in check. Meniere's is a little tougher and, like I said, can vary in intensity.

Mine is pretty much BPPV, maybe borderline on Meniere's but not severe enough to be considered full-on Meniere's. My symptoms mostly include some tinnitus, lots of hyperacusis (where everything sounds loud) and some vertigo, mostly in the morning after sleeping in a certain position. I also get that "fullness" feeling where you feel like you need to pop your ears. Incredibly annoying.

Here's a few of the things I've found that help. They're all worth a try:

1. Sleeping flat on my back. It doesn't allow the crystals in the inner ear to get loose and send your world spinning. Strange, but it works for me. It could be totally different for you.

2. Water pills (or even just lots of water) - this reduces the sodium in your body which keeps the inner ear in balance. Also, lowering your salt intake really helps. Just chug water whenever you can.

3. Meditation - sitting quietly won't help your head or ears, but it will help you deal with the associated anxiety issues. It becomes hard to tell what's an attack and what's just anxiety, so being able to quiet that fear really, really helps.

4. Go easy on stimulants, particularly caffeine and tobacco. Alcohol doesn't bother me at all, but some people find it intensifies their problems.


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6. Go about your normal life as much as possible. That fear factor can really limit what you do. At first, I wanted to avoid every situation that might provoke my ear problems - concerts, restaurants, flying, travel, etc. but the answer is to just get in there and do it. You'll develop a resistance with time.

If all else fails, a lot of people say the anti-anxiety med Xanax is extremely helpful (it may have a different name where you are). I already have a couple of vices, so I won't go there personally, but apparently it really soothes the tinnitus and hyperacusis.

And it's entirely possible it will go away on its own, like your doc said. Mine has certainly gone away for extended periods of time, recurring every now and then at tolerable levels.

anfieldkid 12-11-2012 04:05 PM

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Im not 100% convinced its BBPV... I mean how can he diagnose it with just a few arm movements? Or is that the standard protocol?

Ive also noticed lately either my concentration isnt great or I potentially have brain fog... My memory especially the short term memory doesnt seem too sharp lately? Does the dizziness play a role in this?

As for medication he prescribed me some drug I havent started it yet its called Stugeron? When he says it will last 1-2 years is that right or is it permanent dizziness for life?

Thanks!

RenoMr 12-11-2012 04:52 PM

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Interesting, I don't know that drug, but looked it up. Looks like it's largely prescribed for nausea and motion sickness, so that makes perfect sense. It'll either work or it won't. You should know pretty quickly if it does.

If it doesn't I'd look at a second opinion from another ENT. You'll find some docs know all about this problem and others haven't a clue. Find one who has seen this before and seems confident treating you.

This is the frustrating part for you. You don't know if it'll last forever or if you'll just snap out of this one day. There are no definitive answers to that. When I first experienced this (after getting a concussion) it seemed like the fog would never lift, but it eventually subsided. What remained was the flare-ups with tinnitus and sound sensitivity. I have better days than others, but a good night's sleep helps make sure I have more good days than bad.

anfieldkid 12-11-2012 04:59 PM

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My tinnitus was noise induced from loud speakers which than led to me getting a viral infection 2 months later which I think caused the veritgo.

You never ansewred my Q about brain fog.

Can it cause brain fog this dizzines? and what is brain fog exactly? Am I experiencing that where I feel like my short-term memory is not that great lately?

Also you never answered My Q.

The Neuro-surgeon said I have BBPV with just that small hand movement test- Is that possible? What shud I do? Shud I go for 2nd opinion? Or ENT? Or what?

Thanks

RenoMr 12-11-2012 05:24 PM

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Well, the fact is, I don't really know, and it sounds like your doc doesn't either. I'm just sharing my personal experiences with this ailment and telling you what's worked for me, which is the best I can do.

As for brain fog, I would refer you to an expert (someone in the medical community) on that one. Like I said, I had it, but it dissipated after a while. For me, it was accompanied by dizziness and when one went away, so did the other. Brain fog felt like being disoriented, almost like an out of body experience. I did not have any memory loss.

The arm test - no, that's not how doctors typically diagnose BPPV. For me, it was diagnosed with the Elpey maneuver, which is where they lie you down on one side, then flip you over to another. If you get dizzy and your eyes start darting back and forth, then you have BPPV on a certain side. You can look it up to see how they do the test, which can also be done at home without a doctor. Like I said earlier, I'm guessing the arm thing was some sort of cognitive or reflex test to make sure you weren't having a stroke or some other neurological problem.

If you're not getting anywhere with the ENT, try a general practitioner. If they can't figure it out, they can refer you to a specialist and maybe order some imaging scans to see if there's still an infection. Whatever you do, stay on your docs until you get the answers you need.

anfieldkid 12-13-2012 08:27 AM

Re: Vertigo and Tinnitus
 
So I called my ENT today and told him what the Neurosurgeon said.

He blatantly disagreed with the NeuroSurgeon's opinion saying I dont have BBPV otherwise I would be vomiting. He thinks its caused by a stiff neck which is from bad posture which causes dizziness.

So now Ive got 2 opinions.

Neurosurgeon saying I have Positional vertigo
ENT saying I dont have positional vertigo.

What do I do now?


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