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Old 02-06-2011, 01:38 PM   #1
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Question Is my son dyslexic?

Long story short: I asked the school to test my son (who is 9 years old, in third grade) for dyslexia. They came back with Asperger's, which I think is a load of... well, you know.

He never "sounded" out words well; he's had a speech problem his whole life. When he was in kindergarten, he got a metal ring full of simple words on cards to learn; he learned them, or so I thought. After I thought he knew them all, I started to try to "trip him up" and see if he was recalling the pattern of words, or the actual words themselves. If you went thru this ring in order, he knew them all. If you started 1/2 way thru it; he was lost. That was my first indicator that something was wrong.

Over the next three years, reading has been horrible for him. He's always been a grade level behind his peers; his spelling right now is atrocious. His reading has improved; but I'm not sure if he's reading? He seems to sound out the beginning of a harder word, and guess by the context of the sentence what the word is. For example, the sentence: "Martin descended into the ravine." He would read "Martin decides in the raven". If you call him out to slow down, and read the word, he's clueless half the time. Sometimes, he can fix the word. He understands language very well, and his psychological evaluation said he's average-above average intelligence. When he reads "simple" homework, he retains the information properly and can answer the questions. He learns just fine. He has no problem understanding anything he reads- he just reads things improperly! He seems to be a skimmer; when he reads quietly to himself, he's able to draw the important facts out to answer the questions afterwards. (Simple reading of course) To read out loud is a nightmare, and I feel it's stunting his self confidence.

When he writes, he frequently leaves out blantant letters, even in words he should know by now. His sentences look like this: "I tok the pensle off ov the tabel." He writes literally as it sounds out. He should be in 4th grade, (I left him back in Kindergarten) and he still writes letters/numbers backwards although he should of grown out of this by now I thought. He still reverts like a kindergartener at times, trying to sound out the T-H noise separately instead of together. His psych eval said his short term memory is shot; he's in the 3%- meaning 97% of kids have a better short term processing memory than he does, which I thought was a marker for dyslexia? The school is pressing the issue that he has asperger's, and I don't think that's the case. He's quite disorganized in his whole life, his attention is short. I'm getting all sorts of specialized testing on him done- auditory processing, expressive language, aspergers...

Any takers on this? I'm at a loss. I believe he has dyslexia, but I'd love to have input from parents or other people who've seen or encounter this. Maybe I'm completely off base. I feel there is more going on, and I want to be able to approach the school and create a proper IEP for him that gets him the help he needs. Before I pursue dyslexia testing, could it BE dyslexia?

Thanks for responding.

 
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Old 02-15-2011, 06:59 PM   #2
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Re: Is my son dyslexic?

Your son's problems sound just like the problems my daughter had when she was in 3rd grade. Thank God she had a very caring teacher that went out of her way to get help for us. She told us of a reading specialist that worked out of a local eye clinic. She went to this lady for abaout 4 months. She did all kinds of exercises with her. She had her to relearn the alphabet. She tested her and told us she had the focusing ability of a 50 year old. With the training she gave her that problem was resolved. We had scheduled her to be tested at the local university when her teacher called me and said she had just found out that our school district was offering a special class for dyslexias. At the time it was only offered at one school..across town. We had to commit to enrolling her for a 2 year class. At the end of the first year, we met with her dyslexia teacher and she told us, our daughter had done so well that she did not need to come back for the 2nd year. Throughout her school years she got special help with her school work. It ws called content mastery and the testbooks highlighted the important details. She could leave her regular classroom and go to that classroom that had special teachers. The older teachers were hard to convince that she needed that help and I had to go to the principal to report ones that did not want her to go.

you have to stay on top of everything. If the school won't test him, see if there is a nearby university that can test him. See if you can locate a reading specialist. At the time the cost was $75.00 and hour but our insurance paid because they considered as a medical problem
because of the focusing problem.(Whether she was copying something from the chalkboard or reading, when she came to the end, instead of reading the first word on the next line, her eyes would jump to the second line.)

Good luck to you and your son.

Our daughter is now 31 and loves to read. I will never forget the first time she read a book all the way through!

 
Old 02-20-2011, 07:41 AM   #3
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Re: Is my son dyslexic?

Thank you for your response, Easydoesit. It's sad to watch- he's such a smart kid. I have no clue how to help him, phonics is the only way I know to teach language He's already going to a college to get a lot of his testing done, I'll see about that testing there as well!

 
Old 04-06-2011, 08:34 PM   #4
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Re: Is my son dyslexic?

My daughter is almost 11 years old and sounds just like your son. She wrote letters backwards, numbers backwards, and couldn't read. My daughter was at the end of her
3rd grade year and couldn't read past 1st grade level books. She cried daily to feeling badly about herself at school. The school denied that she was dyslexic....but I also knew she was. She couldn't sound out words either.

I found a program and took a chance on it. After a week of the program she sat down and read a Junie B. Jones book in an hour and understood everything she read! She jumped up 2 grade levels in reading after a week!

What I learned in this program is that dyslexics do not understand phonics. All the phonics based programs for dyslexics do have research that shows improvement in the kids. However, these kids still dont understand phonics...they just learn to memorize what they are supposed to do. This is not what I wanted for my daughter.

Dyslexics often have auditory processing issues which explains the speech issues and hearing the correct sounds in words. My daughter used to see a word like "couch" and she'd try to sound it out like this..."cowt". She'd start out sounding out the correct sound and end up with something crazy. However, she could say the word couch.

We are nearly 2 years after the program and my daughter is now and advanced reader and does really well. I did make the decision to home school her this past year due to the school system not being able to help her. If my daughter is taught things using multi sensory approach she masters it quickly. THe schools don't offer that approach.

Anyway, we still struggle with spelling. I have been told teaching spelling using Morphemes is great for dyslexics. Apples and Pears has a great program with excellent reviews. I'm going to try that.

It's a bit pricey, but well worth it. The other thing that happened after the program is that my daughter became an excellent artist. She even had some artwork published. She couldn't draw a stick figure before the program...not sure how this happened!

I feel like I sound like a sales person for this....I'm just so greatful for it as it changed my daughter so much and I love the program!

Good Luck!

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Old 05-27-2011, 10:28 PM   #5
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Re: Is my son dyslexic?

Dear Veraculise,

My heart goes out to you and your son. I teach dyslexics and learning-disabled kids with a multi-sensory program called Take Flight in the public schools & at the Dyslexia Institute of Southern New Mexico. Your son's symptoms do sound like dyslexia to me. The average to high IQ, but great difficulty with reading, are 2 more qualifiers for dyslexia. Also, the memory problems with decoding words are also a symptom of dyslexia. I highly recommend your reading a book written by a medical doctor called Overcoming Dyslexia, by Sally Shaywitz, M.D. It shows pictues of functional brain scans, which show that parts of the brain in a child with dyslexia are underactivated, while other parts of the brain are overactivated while trying to decode words. It also gives very practical ways to work with your child to help him learn how to read better.

If your state recognizes dyslexia, the Educational Diagnostician at your son's school can test him for dyslexia. However, sometimes parents prefer to test their child with a contracted Ed Diag outside of the public schools, even though it is pricey, because it can typically be much faster to get the testing done.

Check and see if you have a local Scottish Rite Children's Learning Center in your town that teaches Take Flight or Alphabetic Phonics for dyslexics. Scottish Rite chose dyslexia and aphasia as their preferred charities, so they do not charge the parents for the tutoring. However, you will have to provide transportation to and from the Center for tutoring. There's a program that some Speech & Language Pathologists teach called Lips, put out by Linda Mood-Bell.

I sincerely hope that this helps. I would love to discuss it with you more if you would like.

God bless you in your efforts to help your son!
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Old 07-14-2011, 09:05 AM   #6
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Re: Is my son dyslexic?

hi,
I'm a dyslexic, I do truly know how your son feels. Unlike your son, I just found out I had this problem at 19 years old while I was in college. I learned to get by it without having much help at all, but it was because my mother refused to believe that I had any problems at all and without parental consent, a school cannot press an issue. My dyslexia is mild and generally only affects letter and number order. I tend to say numbers as separate entities instead of as wholes. So as for a number like 567, the number rotate places when I try to say it as Five Hundred Sixty Seven, I say Five Six Seven.
Now as for your son, I think because he struggles so badly his comprehension may be dropping. That can be because he can only take in the simple words and works. I know what I do for when I tutor kids with this i make three cards of the same word, first one with a picture (sight word), then one with the sound out at the bottom, and then just the word alone. Use these for his new or hard words, this will build comprehension and then make your own worksheets that have what level card you have on that sheet. This will help with spelling and comprehension. I know this seems like a ton of work, but in the long run it will help your son.. o and use words that he has from class, that will make school way easier for him!

 
Old 07-14-2011, 09:06 AM   #7
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Re: Is my son dyslexic?

hi,
I'm a dyslexic, I do truly know how your son feels. Unlike your son, I just found out I had this problem at 19 years old while I was in college. I learned to get by it without having much help at all, but it was because my mother refused to believe that I had any problems at all and without parental consent, a school cannot press an issue. My dyslexia is mild and generally only affects letter and number order. I tend to say numbers as separate entities instead of as wholes. So as for a number like 567, the number rotate places when I try to say it as Five Hundred Sixty Seven, I say Five Six Seven.
Now as for your son, I think because he struggles so badly his comprehension may be dropping. That can be because he can only take in the simple words and works. I know what I do for when I tutor kids with this i make three cards of the same word, first one with a picture (sight word), then one with the sound out at the bottom, and then just the word alone. Use these for his new or hard words, this will build comprehension and then make your own worksheets that have what level card you have on that sheet. This will help with spelling and comprehension. I know this seems like a ton of work, but in the long run it will help your son.. o and use words that he has from class, that will make school way easier for him!

 
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