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Old 08-26-2008, 06:13 AM   #1
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Angry I think Tonsil Stones & Fatigue are related.

So, Ive got these nasty tonsil stones for 8 years, supposedly because of what doctors call "cryptic tonsils". I asked twice to my doctor, and in this board if tonsil stones could be related to fatigue, and everybody just told me "no". But i can ALWAYS notice that when i've got them, i'm more fatigated, feeling like being ill. Then, after pushing the "stones" out, i feel better. It always happens the same. When i have the stones, i always feel worse. I think doctors should warn people about it, and not just say "it is impossible they can cause fatigue", because, from my experience, THEY DO.

BTW, sorry for my bad english

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Old 08-26-2008, 07:26 AM   #2
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Re: I think Tonsil Stones & Fatigue are related.

The way I look at it is that those nasty tonsils were making me sick. My ENT told me that the infection was very deep and they were FILLED with white exudate (chunks of pus).

I always had horrible sinus headaches and would take pain relievers and decongestants several times a day. Sometimes I'd have waves of dizziness and could hardly function. Tonsils were removed and I maybe take pain reliever once a YEAR for a regular non-sinus headache. I also felt I could breathe much better. Almost instantly. Figured my enlarged tonsils were causing breathing issues. In fact some people's tonsils are removed due to sleep apnea issues -- where one stops breathing at night while they sleep.

 
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Old 08-27-2008, 07:13 AM   #3
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Re: I think Tonsil Stones & Fatigue are related.

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So, Ive got these nasty tonsil stones for 8 years, supposedly because of what doctors call "cryptic tonsils". I asked twice to my doctor, and in this board if tonsil stones could be related to fatigue, and everybody just told me "no". But i can ALWAYS notice that when i've got them, i'm more fatigated, feeling like being ill. Then, after pushing the "stones" out, i feel better. It always happens the same. When i have the stones, i always feel worse. I think doctors should warn people about it, and not just say "it is impossible they can cause fatigue", because, from my experience, THEY DO.

BTW, sorry for my bad english
How do you push them out? I find it impossible to dislodge them as they are far back, lodged in a crypt.

I asked in another thread the best way to get rid of these stones, but so far there have only been suggestions to have the tonsil removed. I'm sure this is probably the most permanent thing, but as I had major surgery recently and with work commitments, this isn't possible.

Do I have to go to an ear, nose and throat specialist to get these removed? At the moment I have one which is huge and causing me all sorts of problems, but it's sticking like glue!

 
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I never had much luck dislodging them by gargling as my regular doctor suggested. I'd use a q-tip or my finger. Some people use a waterpick or waterfilled syringe to get them loose. Sometimes, they just won't budge though or only pieces will break off.

 
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I can never get mine out either. I have such a horrible gag reflex to begin with that when I try to get them out I start to throw up. I am having my tonsils removed on October 24. I can not wait. I know it will be a week of pain but in the end it will be worth it. Im constantly sick because of my tonsils. They are so large and sore all the time. Antibiotics dont touch them. I am 39 and wish I had them out years ago. I also get sinus headaches and waves of dizziness constantly. Im looking forward to relief on everything.

 
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Re: I think Tonsil Stones & Fatigue are related.

How do you know you have them? I only found out what the heck they were due to me having pieces of them be coughed up but when I looked in the mirror there is nothing there. I also coughed and my tonsil moved a bit and I still didn't see anything. I don't feel anything either. I have fatigue, but I think due to something else, but I sure would like to know how to see where this "crypt" is that you are all talking about.

 
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Re: I think Tonsil Stones & Fatigue are related.

I can see them in my tonsils. They also smell pretty bad.

 
Old 08-28-2008, 01:59 AM   #8
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How do you know you have them? I only found out what the heck they were due to me having pieces of them be coughed up but when I looked in the mirror there is nothing there. I also coughed and my tonsil moved a bit and I still didn't see anything. I don't feel anything either. I have fatigue, but I think due to something else, but I sure would like to know how to see where this "crypt" is that you are all talking about.
Normally you can see them when you look down your throat, but it sounds like your stones are too far back to be visible.

Crypts are the pockets on either side on the throat - some people have particularly deep ones and lots of them, which is a perfect breeding ground for the stones.

They are driving me mad. I had one for 3 months and it finally came away - only to be replaced by another a few days later which is growing bigger and bigger, but I just can't dislodge it.

 
Old 08-28-2008, 07:30 AM   #9
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I'm not sure if I have the same thing you guys are talking about or not...but I get food and other "matter" stuck in my tonsils. When I do, it irritates the back of my throat and if I move my tongue around I can feel them. When I open my mouth and look in, I can usually see them attached to my tonsils... they show up as flat white patches. This freaked me out when I first got them because I thought it was throat cancer. However, when I stick my finger back there and remove them with a finger nail, they come out pretty easily. They smell terrible if I manage to pull it out. My tonsils seem to be swollen? I'm 30 years old and I don't remember ever having problems with this when I was younger and they seem very large to me.

They also seem to have many deep grooves in them...which is how the food,etc get stuck in them. I talked to my dentist about it and they said it was pretty common.

The most annoying part is that if I cannot remove the stuff that is stuck back there, I get a really terrible sore throat that makes swallowing a nightmare. My dentist recommended that I see an ENT to potentially have my tonsils removed...

My question is, are there other symptoms that tonsil infections can cause? I've had SEVERE and annoying ringing in my ears for the last year and was wondering if it was some how connected. The ringing is constant 24/7 and it drives me absolutely insane. I also have really bad post nasal drip and sinus/headache issues as well.

 
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Amy26 I have all those symptoms also and my ENT told me yes infected tonsils can cause that. I am getting my tonsils removed October 24. I am 39. I have had tonsillitis constantly for a years and am just sick of feeling like crap so I am having them out. I get those smelly tonsil stones also. What you are describing are tonsil stones. I would recommend you to go see a ENT.

 
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Re: I think Tonsil Stones & Fatigue are related.

I had sinus issues and waves of dizziness. I sometimes felt as if I had someone else's hangover. One thing I noticed was that after a particularly nasty headache -- one that wouldn't go away no matter what, the next morning -- tonsil stone production would increase. I couldn't plan to do things 'cuz a headache would knock me for a loop -- was all I could do to keep my head up and try to concentrate on work, only to go home and crawl into bed and try to sleep it off.

One thing that really started to bother me prior to my tonsilectomy was that at times my tonsils had begun to bleed after one of those things would break off. My tonsils had holes in them, sometimes white or yellow chunks of nastiness. I too was told by a regular GP that it was just food trapped in the holes, however, the ENT who removed my tonsil indicated that the infection went very deep. The one side he removed a golf ball sized chunk of that stuff. No WONDER I felt so awful!

 
Old 08-29-2008, 06:08 AM   #12
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Hmm... interesting. I would so love for my ears to stop ringing and to know what was causing it. If its my tonsils, then out they will come! I got a severe ear infection last year that went all through my lymphnodes in my neck ...then ever since then ...the ringing.

 
Old 09-03-2008, 05:34 AM   #13
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Re: I think Tonsil Stones & Fatigue are related.

My plan is to have tonsillectomy done late this year. I don't want to have these nasty stones for ALL my life!

To those of you who still have them: what works for me is to do nasal irrigation with salt water. I just do it with warm water & sea salt. Then i gargle it and finally i spit it out..and sometimes a stone comes out.

 
Old 09-03-2008, 10:36 AM   #14
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Re: I think Tonsil Stones & Fatigue are related.

I might have to try that... I swear I am getting these things more and more frequently... I pulled some out last week and then like 3 days later I have 3 more. I also think I have them in places I can't see because I can feel the irritation in the back of my throat but I cannot see anything from the front...even with a flash light... and it drives me bonkers. I'm not sure when I'll be able to get them removed as I'm planning a move to another country in the near future.

 
Old 09-06-2008, 09:35 PM   #15
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Re: I think Tonsil Stones & Fatigue are related.

I struggled with tonsil stones and chronic sore throat for years. I tried every suggestion for getting rid of the stones. Everything was a very temporary solution. Unfortunately, the only cure is to have the tonsils removed. And as an adult, the recovery is very painful. I was 35 when mine were removed. And despite the long recovery and pain, I can say it was 100% worth it. No more strep, no more swollen tonsils, no more stones....no more bad breath! I would check around and find a good ENT. Talk to as many people as possible. Don't just get a recommendation from your GP. If the doctor is good and he prescribes the right pain medication, you will be fine and you will be so thankful you did this.

 
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