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Old 05-15-2012, 02:59 PM   #1
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Calling all eustachian tube dysfunction sufferers!

Hi everyone,
I needed to post this thread because I have been posting here for 3 months regarding ETD and wanted to reach out to the entire ETD community. My friends and I have a thread called 'blocked left ear no pain' and we have been sharing our struggles and tips for dealing with this nasty affliction. Trouble is, we are at our wits end! I'm noticing more and more etd threads popping up and thought if everyone could give a little insight, share their story and progress, and maybe what treatments really helped, we as a whole could benefit. I know everyones etd is different, and everyone responds to different treatment, but I think if everyone with etd on here posted, some of us would find common threads with other's stories and be able to start attacking this more fruitfully. So, if you are willing, please post your etd experience- the possible cause, how long you've had it, what treatments worked/failed, and any personal tips you have for dealing with it on a daily basis. I wanted to post this now, and will make a separate post later with my details. Since I've already told my story on the other thread, I will summarize my retelling to keep from being too repetitive to those who have already heard it.
Thank guys, looking forward to hearing from you all.
P. S. Girls from the other thread, please help me out and post your story so more will be encouraged to post, even if it's just bullet points and quick.

 
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Old 05-15-2012, 04:56 PM   #2
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Re: Calling all eustachian tube dysfunction sufferers!

Hi Jenn,
Great idea in doing this!! I will post my "story" when I have a bit more time.... Hopefully others will see this and share their experiences as well.

 
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HI Jenn & fellow ETD sufferers! My saga began in Sept 2012 with a simple headcold that seemed to linger, so my PCP diagnosed me with an ear inf. and put me on oral antibiotics, when those didnt clear things up, he gave me antibiotic ear drops..SEVERAL courses of those, which, in turn caused a fungal ear infection. After seeing 3 different ENT's the 3rd one finally diagnosed me correctly and suctioned out the fungus. Thought i'd be good as new after that..but NOPE the etubes have decided to plug shut, and both ears feel plugged. (left one worse than right). Ive gone back to the ENT, been given decongestants, steroid nose sprays, antihistimine nose sprays, and nothing has really helped. The ENT said i could have allergies, but i dont really want to spend the $ on testing right now...I also clench my jaw alot and feel TMJD plays a role in all of this as well. Its so frustrating to swallow and each time i do, pray that my ears pop and they dont. I get alot of pressure in my ears and sometimes my entire head feels as tho its gona explode. Prayers and my faith have kept me sane to this point. Thats my story in a nutshell..O and yes, i find that a heating pad does help a bit with the pain/pressure. I actually use a "field corn pak" that i got at my massage therapy office. Her friend makes them and they are wonderful!!!!!!! Holds the heat for about 20 mins and i alternate sides about 10 mins each. Well here's hoping we can get some new thoughts and ideas as to how to treat this hideous ETD....

 
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Ok my story post as promised. My etd began with a cold in January '12. My ear blocked, I thought it was an infection, it wasn't. I took sudafed as directed by my dr and it cleared my ear for 2 days. Then it blocked right back up again. The extreme hearing loss type blockage has since ended, but I am left with this hollow weird feeling in my left ear that just won't quit. I don't have diagnosed etd in my right ear, but sometimes it seems a little crazy too. To make it quick, here's some bullet points:

-cold turned into sinusitis treated with 4 different antibiotics
-ct scan of sinuses indicated possible chronic sinusitis (never any sinusitis before)
-allergy tested in March, environmental allergies 22/37 tested. Only dealt with seasonal allergy symptoms before
-tube tried in left ear after allergy test. Made me feel deaf. It was immediately removed. Hearing returned to normal in a couple weeks
-according to hearing tests, no measurable hearing loss 'ideal hearing'
-typanograms come back normal but when they check to see if my e tubes open on valsalva, my left one doesn't

What I've tried (Rx and natural)
-prednisone
-medrol dose pack
-zyrtec
-allegra
-sudafed
-mucinex
-steam inhalation
-heating pad
-saline sprays, rinses
-flonase/nasonex
-beating my head against a wall(lol)
-olive leaf extract
-curcumin
-quercetin
-multivitamin
-too many antibiotics

If forgot anything I'll let u know! The main things that help me are the saline rinses, zyrtec, and quercetin (in large doses). I'm not 100% sure, but I believe curcumin in large doses helps me as well. That's kinda sad that only 1 thing is pharmaceutical. At least I think it is. Oh and my heating pad is a lifesaver. I put it on my face and it promotes drainage within 10 minutes. No kidding.

I've seen:
-4 ENTs
-1 allergist
-about to see an otologist/neurologist

Tests:
-ct scans of head/sinuses/both ear canals
-bloodwork
-4 audiograms (all normal)
-3 tympanograms

We really need others to post here who have etd! Please help us in our quest to find answers to this life ruining disease.

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Re: Calling all eustachian tube dysfunction sufferers!

Hi Jenn,

Wanted to check in on you and see how you are doing?

I am needing a quote fix!! : )

 
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Hi everyone. I've been off these sites for a while since I had my e- tube dilation surgery and am feeling great. I promised tho, that i would not just leave once i found my answer since it may help someone else suffering. Quick back story. I got a sinus infection in 2007-had FESS sinus surgery in 2008. Came out of surgery with a lot of pain/pressure in my head-felt underwater, like i just wanted to have my head popped to relieve the pressure. Couldn't pop my ears open. When i say pain, i mean on the couch-not going to work-lost 35 lbs, couldn't eat kind of pain. People asked me if i had cancer i looked so awful. I was on the strongest pain meds possible, still no relief. Happened to see a dr on THE DRS TV show doing a new surgery for infection. Flew to San Diego, had this new surgery, got rid of the infection, but still had the awful pressure in my head and ears. This Dr, Dr Brian Weeks was doing a new surgery for ETD. He goes in thru the nose and dilates the E tubes-hoping that will start them working again. And it did!! I knew immediately when i woke up the pressure was gone. I know everyone is different, but i just want to throw my story out because this new surgery is VERY hard to find out about on the internet. My surgery was taped for THE DRS show if you google under videos "New treatment for Eustachian Tubes" you will see it. Some of the ETD boards have it on the bottom of the page. I feel SO MUCH for all of you. The pain is unbearable. I lost 4 yrs of my life to this damn thing, and i know others who have suffered much longer than i did. Everytime i get in my car and crank up the radio, (I hadn't been able to do that for years, because i always had a headache), i realize how lucky i was to find an answer!! It may not be yours, but it HAS to be someone's Also, almost everyone with ETD has most the other symptoms that go along with it. The jaw clenching, the stiff neck, etc, all of these are common. Try not to "chase" all your symptoms like i did because once the ETD went away-so did everything that came with it. I wasted alot of time chasing all my symptoms. Good luck and try to stay positive. One more thing, I found out recently I have Sjogren's-an auto immune where my body attacks my own moisture glands. Mostly in my saliva, mucus and tears. Probably the root of alot of my sinus problems. I look back and the first 6 ENT's i had all put me on very strong antihistimines-saying too much mucus can cause ETD (even tho I hadn't blown my nose for yrs). They all said Utah is just a dry place....I read the lack of moisture can cause sinus and ETD problems-So if antihistimines aren't working-you may want to think about that. My ears were always crackling and feeling like they were sticky-it was from lack of moisture not too much. I also flush my sinus everyday. Don't give up, there is alot of research going on with ETD-you just need to find the right Dr.

 
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Good morning from California....I found this site in the middle of the night ! I, too, am an ETD sufferer and have been for 25 years ! It started on a long flight with a cold. My right eustacian tube remained closed and it has never functioned normally again. I have learned to live with this horrible condition by coping and being positive.
I have fairly severe allergies, sinusitis ( all my life) and tinnitis ( not high pitched, usually a low roar type sound). I am worse with a cold and early in the am.
Am a special ed teacher and work in an assessment clinic with 3-5 yr olds so get many colds .
The worst part of this for me is the off-balance feeling when it is at its worst...spring and fall. For me, it goes along with a feeling of fullness in the right ear and tube, stiff neck and tightness at base of the head. It is so unpleasant to live with when it is at its worst.
What has helped are these "trigger point" injections into shoulders which in turn loosen the neck muscles and allow things to open up a bit.
My allergist administers this and swears that the whole sinus system/eustacian tubes, ear canals, etc. are connected to this muscle tension. Seems as if most posters mention stiff necks, TMJ ( I wear a night splint) and stress. Maybe from the condition or maybe just life....but it worsens this condition big-time.
The crazy part for me is that my problem is ONLY on the right side ! The left ear, nostril and tube work normally. It is weird but I'm grateful for small favors.
Here is my list of drugs I've tried over all these years but some success but usually not. In no particular order and not all at once obviously:
Advil for stiffness
Med pack
Nasacort/Astalin mixture nost spray
Sudafed
Zyrtec ( for sleep only-can't function on it)
Claritin
Neti pot
Z packs or Cipro ( only anti-biotics I'm not allergic to...can't take penicillins)
Vicks vapo rub under nose
Thousands of boxes of kleenex for constantly runny nose which I'm teased about at work.

Thinking of trying Nasonex spray for a change.
Over the years have had adenoids out, tubinectomy TWICE ( horrible....), and a couple of CT scans. They want to do another now as so bad but worried about too much radiation to head.
All for now...
Hang in there fellow sufferers !

 
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Great information. I live in Southern California near Malibu and plan to possibly drive down to SD to see what this Dr. Weeks has to offer.
I have had sinus inf's all my life, had two turbinectomies to no avail.......just feel sick so much...allergies, sinus trouble.
Also have ETD in right ET. This Dr. Sounds amazing !
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Good luck Speced tchr. i can't imagine having this condition for that long. I can tell you finding the right dr makes all the difference. i flew from one end of the country to the other-looking for mine. I found him on TV weird huh. i almost deleted the episode because it didn't say anything about sinuses. Life is full of surprises. But i've never had a dr who on the first visit, as i was crying, as usual-a girl thing, give me and my husband both a hug and say he was with us, until i was better. And he was. For me hope was everything. I've had so many drs tell me that the smell (which was infection) was all in my head, and the pain, was anxiety or hormones! It was nice to find a dr who knew exactly what i had and just fix it. I also had bad motion sickness while driving, but it is gone now. I'm hoping you are one of the lucky ones too! I am thankful every day to feel better!

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Having read several ETD threads here over the past few weeks, I thought I'd add my story-in-progress.
I'm a 39 year-old female who lives in the Thames Valley in the UK. As a child I had my tonsils & adenoids out and as a teenager I had surgery on my inferior turbinates because of numerous bouts of tonsilitis and later problems with airflow in my nose. I was diagnosed with asthma as an adult at about 33 years old.
I have always had ear infections and in the past few years have averaged 2-4 a year: these are always treated with antibiotics (my GP has graduated from Amoxicillin to Clarithromycin because the former frequently doesn't work now) as well as 1-2 annual sinus infections and frequent colds/coughs/chest infections.
In recent years, my ears have been in a constant state of semi or permanent blockage and numerous times daily I equalize the pressure which provides momentary relief most of the time.
I saw an ENT specialist a few years ago for my sinuses and he recommended Flixonse (Flonase) nasule steroid drops on a short-term basis and Nasonex spray as a 'maintenance' therapy. These, too, are what my GP recommended for my ETD so I am back on them now, but I can't perceive any benefit from their use. I usually use a saline sinus wash, but currently find it too painful with my ears misbehaving as they are.
I currently have almost continuous pain in my right ear which is throbbing most of the time but then stabs intermittently - I have Zapain painkillers for this but they contain codeine so have unfortunate side effects...! In addition, I get bouts of dizziness and tinnitus - both a rushing/roaring wave-like sensation that blocks out all ambient sound as well as a single tone that comes and goes.
Currently, I am waiting to see the same ENT consultant I saw before - but this time I have to go on the NHS since my private medical insurer won't cover ear-related issues because of my history. So, I am learning to be patient and have an appointment for a hearing test/consultation at the end of June.
I think that covers it all - my GP said when she referred me this time that it might be that the ENT consultant will want to insert tubes in my eardrums - I'm willing to give it a go, since at this point I'm really fed up with it all.

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Re: Calling all eustachian tube dysfunction sufferers!

I would ask others about their experiences with having tubes put in. Personally i didn't get them because alot of people on the boards said they didn't help. I had a few ENTs tell me the same. I dont want to be discouraging, so anyone who has had tubes-please share your thoughts. I understand how desperate you are for relief, but i'd hate to see you do something you may regret. Good luck and i am so sorry you are struggling with this.

 
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I can talk some about pe tubes in adults. I have a history of ear infections as an adult, and in December 2010 ended up with a double ear infection that turned into ETD. Flying while congested is what triggered this nightmare.

I got the tubes put in for problems with keeping my middle ears equalized (any change of elevation -- even small hills or a storm front coming in) was causing my ears to block or fill up with pressure. Even sometimes just talking or eating did it. You can read a lot more about my condition in my past threads. I had the right ear done first, since it was the most bothersome, then a couple months later, the left ear.

Once the tubes healed, I found them to be helpful to help relieve the pressure, though they were not a perfect fix. I'd say they helped about 50% of the time. But I still had blocking/pressure...just not as constant. They also helped me to fly safely/comfortably.

I only had one ear infection after getting the tubes in, but it was nasty. The infection/fluid blocked my right ear for about 3-4 days, and then was treated successfully by drops. A granuloma on my eardrum also went away with the drops. But the tube in my right ear is now non-functional because it's clogged with dried material from the infection. My local ENT said to leave it in place and let the eardrum push it out as it heals, as him digging into my ear to remove a non-functional tube would be risky and leave a perforated eardrum behind. Better to just be conservative and let nature take its course.

That tube lasted 10 months, total. The other tube in my left ear is still functional. That is something to remember -- tubes only last from 6 months to 2 years, then if you still need them, you have to get the surgery again. It's not without risk of permanent damage, though overall it is considered very safe. Having your eardrum blow out from ETD pressure while flying or from infection is far, far worse.

The good news is that apparently my e-tube on the right side has recovered enough that I don't seem to need that pe tube anymore to keep the ear equalized. I'm feeling much more comfortable these days, with only very intermittent ear issues. Like maybe I'll have a bout of 30 minutes to an hour of ear pressure every 1-2 days. Or sometimes I will go days at a time feeling okay. When I do have ear symptoms, I become agitated, thinking I am relapsing. But so far, that has not been the case.

My underlying issues ended up being TMJD muscular spasms and allergies. I'm on splint therapy and immunotherapy (shots) to address these problems. The muscular spasms made my e-tubes struggle to function properly, and allergies caused swelling and mucus issues that also set me up for ear infections and ETD disaster. TMJD also caused my middle ear myoclonus (thumping/twitching) AND many strange sensations that are difficult to distinguish from classic ETD. So I had a mess of issues going on in a very small space in my head. At one point, I was so severely depressed that I truly could not see living my life this way. I became quite desperate and willing to do just about anything.

I have a very good local ENT-allergist working with me for the allergy problem and the more acute ear issues. But since I still had chronic ear issues and had waited 6+ months for an appointment, I ended up ultimately flying across the country to see Dr. Dennis Poe in Boston. He helped me figure out a treatment plan that is working. I wasn't a candidate for the new e-tube dilation surgery as the problem was not permanently blocked e-tubes. But honestly, it did not take long into the splint therapy that I started to feel better. Working with a neuromuscular dentist with a good reputation has been key...many dentists know a little bit about TMJD and will attempt to treat, but it's more of a fine art and science than that, and I strongly recommend finding a dentist who makes TMJD his or her main or only focus of practice and will investigate jaw position and joints thoroughly. Otherwise, you really will be wasting your time and your money, and quite possibly damaging your bite and making things worse.

I am not reading the boards as much these days, since I'm not having a lot of problems on a daily basis, but I will still check in from time to time to see how everyone is doing. Like DLT, I never liked that people would post while in the throes of ETD, then disappear and never update with their condition. I am very grateful to be feeling much more healthy again, and do hope for a complete recovery.

 
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My ET troubles started in the 70's also with a flight home from Hawaii .......
Also have lifetime sinus trouble with allergies to the environment ( dust, molds, treees, grasses, etc.). Also, live at beach in So. Cal with lots of dampness and molds....all make life miserable allergy-wise. Have had shots for 40 years and it helps.
Two turbinectomies, tried PE tubes....got dizzy and heard noises...,..had them out in a week !
Have seen famous House Group in LA.....also have good ENT and allergist here in LA.
Have learned to live with it......long-time teacher and mom of four w/ 5 grandkids.
Life is good....just trouble with ET's !
Right side is worse....usually pops/closes/opens.......runny nose and always stuffy on right.
Also have TMJ. Isn't it interesting that everyone has TMJ also ? Not weird to hear at all.
I use Nasacort, or Astelin ( very strong !....only a little)....sinus rinse ( only w/ distilled water), allergy shots and occasionally Claritin if L A winds are blowing in fall.
Bye for now....hang in there.
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PS: BTW, I have a HORRIBLE time in high altitudes and avoid Mammoth Mountain and other ski resorts at all cost !

 
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Have struggled for years with ETD on right side. Going through a particularly rough time right now as bad allergy season. Constant noises, roars, sounds like in a wind tunnel, sometimes sudden ringing and full.....like coming down in a plane and praying it will pop.'
Won't pop.....even if I do the maneuver where you blow and it pops for a moment....it closes again.
Has anyone ever considered the surgery to open up you tube ?
I tried the ear tubes and they didn't work at all....
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I had this surgery in Oct and my ears are still open. I know another woman who had hers done right before me, we keep in touch on facebook-hers are still clear too. I actually had the balloon dilation done twice. The first time in July 2011, it gave me instant relief-as soon as i woke up, no pain, pressure, or clicking noises. But a few days later they closed again. I tried sprays and antihistimines for a few months and opted to try it again because i knew it worked-even if it was for a short time. I hadn't had any relief in 4 yrs trying anything else. The 2nd time Dr. Weeks dilated them a little more and this time when i came home-i went off everything-no sprays nothing but saline flushes and they have remained open. If i ever can't open them-i would do it again. Painless-easy out patient surgery-it gave me my life back. I have learned that my e-tubes have been too dry-so all the meds i was using to dry them up just made things worse. Even now sometimes i will hear a little crackle so i will flush my sinuses and it will immediately go away. Wish i would have thought about this before i spent 4 yrs drying my head out. If antihistimes give u relief i'd say use them, but if things aren't helping-i'd stop taking them and see what happens. Also try to quit plugging your nose and popping your ears-u could be irritating them even more (i know thats a hard one), but i quit doing that too and it seemed to help. Good luck

 
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I had tubes put in about 20 years ago and had them out almost immediately as they made me dizzy.
I just continue with the clogged tube. I'm used to it but it drives me crazy ! I avoid the mountains but strangely, can fly without too much trouble. Usually ears stay clogged for awhile after long flights. My trouble is on the right side only. So weird.
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As a brief adjunct to my previous post, I saw the ENT consultant and registrar earlier this week and they confirmed it's definitely ETD that's the cause of my pain and other symptoms.
After their tests were run, I was told my eardrums seem quite thin and move a lot, perhaps because of the numerous valsalva manoeuvres I do each hour in order to unblock and relieve the pain in my ears. Anyway, they were very honest and said that it can be difficult to treat ETD but that in their opinion, it was worth trying grommets although there was no guarantee of it solving my issues.
I appreciated their being candid and we agreed to try having grommets (tubes) inserted since there really aren't many more practical steps they can take. I did ask about the tubes affecting the quality of sound I hear, but was told that the place in the eardrum the tubes are inserted - if done correctly - means that the quality/tone of sound I hear won't be affected.
So, I'm happy with the decision and will go ahead in the autumn: if there's a chance it'll help, I'm willing to try!

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If I have any advice for you, it is to not get the PE tube. It was the worst thing I have ever done. I did it to help the pressure in my ear and instead it made the problem 10X worse. Now I am stuck with an overly full clogged feeling in my ear that won't clear. My ear did not feel like this before I had the tube placed. It was so bad that I demanded the tube to be taken out and expected relief immediately. This was not the case either as it did nothing to relieve the pressure even though the tube is out. Worst thing I have ever done in my life.

 
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Ditto here.....I heard noises, got dizzy, and felt awful with those tubes !
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Are your tubes out now? How long did it take until you felt relief from the pressure?

 
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