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Old 01-29-2010, 05:11 AM   #1
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In pain! Help!

I've been having a pain problem all week and after visiting three different doctors and not finding anything, I'm hoping this will help. It started Monday as a dull, knot-like pain on my waist on both sides and on my back in about the same location. My doctor said bladder spasms and sent me on my way. By Wednesday the knot-like feeling had moved up under my ribs on both sides and then that evening turned in to a sharp, stabbing pain on my left side in my ribs. I went to the doc again where blood tests, urine tests, and x-rays were taken and nothing was found thus far (still waiting on one x-ray to be read and a culture of the urine test). Went to another doctor yesterday and they didn't have any answers for me. Any suggestions from anybody would be greatly appreciated! I'm in pain and can't seem to find any help from anyone.

 
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Re: In pain! Help!

honestly? does your doc actually understand basic anatomy here? unless your pain was pretty darn low, i would seriously doubt that this type of pain could possibly be from something like 'bladder spasms"? does this actually feel somewhat like a deep 'muscle knot' type pain or what exactly? just what if anything actually brings ON the pain, or is it always just 'there'? did anything actually bring on that L sided sharp pain or did that just kind of 'happen' out of the blue? exactly what does that L sided pain feel like to you?
sorry for all the questions but the better the overall info the better people can try and help.

did YOU obtain or even see copies of your own labs and any other testing results from him? you really DO need to always always obtain your very own copies of every single test result that just gets done on you, the ones you had and ANY that may be coming up as well. this just allows YOU to actually read thru things yourself and look up what could be a possible prominent finding but ONLY because any given doc has never really had true experience with a particular type of finding(or very little), 'they' do not give itthe attention it just would deserve if seen by a particular type of specialist? do you know what i mean here? just always obtaih those copies,believe me thay do come in very handy for you in many many possible ways.

just getting a good full abdominal ultrasound done very easily 'could' possibly find something that is wrong, or not where it is supposed to be or an impairment of real bloodflow that just all does get picked up with one good US being done. a good contrasted CT could work too but the US can see alot and IS the much cheaper but good way to just see the inner you so to speak? getting an MRI would be the more expensive way to look in there,but you would just see alot more. it all kind of depends here since you are just very much 'in' that diagnostic mode, ya know?

once they have really thoroughly looked at the abdominal itself for any possibles and if nothing actually shows up, the next logical place to try and find something, espescially when your actual symptoms are just bilateral(both sides) vs a "one sided' type of issue,would just be that spinal area. believe me, there can be many many possible different types of actual spinal related issue a person can have that just can impact the more 'inner you in certain ways? so it would just be an area to really get a good look at if nothing actually shows with further more in depth abdominal testing. just something to think about as a possible.

but getting that really good look right now with at the very least that US espescially to really look at the bile ducts and that pancreas which actually IS on that L side where you kind of described that sharper pain at? it would help alot in trying to possibly find a problem there. once a pancreas becomes inflammed for some odd reason,trust me. it can create alot of pain in a human being. my son was having L sided pain that kept getting blown off by his GI doc? they never of course bothered to actually check what just are the very basic pancreatic enzymes(amylaise and lipase? check and see if your doc checked these, i doubt he did with basic testing) once they DID like two months after this nasty pain developed the enzymes were off the freaking charts. this is just one possible area that can create pain on that L side that can be easliy checked and ruled out with simple lab work?

i would ask the doc in light of just having this pain move up and what you now have on that L side alone to have the pancreatic enzymes checked? and then get that US referral to just 'look' inside. with certain types of real pain and it being from a specific organ or area, you can have what is called 'referred pain' to other areas too by virtue of connections to it and more directly in how the innervating nerves just run themselves thru the abdominal itself? so that too can create pain in a more bilateral way as well. i do hope your doc really sees the need here for more real testing to find the true generator of this for you. if he is not willing to really help you which just IS your primarys job? i would definitely fire this one and find another who just does the job that any given primary is supposed to do for their patients. you do NOT have to 'settle' when it comes to just needing a good thorough primary when things hit the fan in your body. you just DO have certain rights and expectations from any doc, espescially your basic primary who IS the coordinator of anyones ongoing care. good luck in getting to the source here. please keep me posted kris, FB
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Old 01-30-2010, 07:00 AM   #3
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Re: In pain! Help!

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honestly? does your doc actually understand basic anatomy here? unless your pain was pretty darn low, i would seriously doubt that this type of pain could possibly be from something like 'bladder spasms"? does this actually feel somewhat like a deep 'muscle knot' type pain or what exactly? just what if anything actually brings ON the pain, or is it always just 'there'? did anything actually bring on that L sided sharp pain or did that just kind of 'happen' out of the blue? exactly what does that L sided pain feel like to you?
sorry for all the questions but the better the overall info the better people can try and help.

did YOU obtain or even see copies of your own labs and any other testing results from him? you really DO need to always always obtain your very own copies of every single test result that just gets done on you, the ones you had and ANY that may be coming up as well. this just allows YOU to actually read thru things yourself and look up what could be a possible prominent finding but ONLY because any given doc has never really had true experience with a particular type of finding(or very little), 'they' do not give itthe attention it just would deserve if seen by a particular type of specialist? do you know what i mean here? just always obtaih those copies,believe me thay do come in very handy for you in many many possible ways.

just getting a good full abdominal ultrasound done very easily 'could' possibly find something that is wrong, or not where it is supposed to be or an impairment of real bloodflow that just all does get picked up with one good US being done. a good contrasted CT could work too but the US can see alot and IS the much cheaper but good way to just see the inner you so to speak? getting an MRI would be the more expensive way to look in there,but you would just see alot more. it all kind of depends here since you are just very much 'in' that diagnostic mode, ya know?

once they have really thoroughly looked at the abdominal itself for any possibles and if nothing actually shows up, the next logical place to try and find something, espescially when your actual symptoms are just bilateral(both sides) vs a "one sided' type of issue,would just be that spinal area. believe me, there can be many many possible different types of actual spinal related issue a person can have that just can impact the more 'inner you in certain ways? so it would just be an area to really get a good look at if nothing actually shows with further more in depth abdominal testing. just something to think about as a possible.

but getting that really good look right now with at the very least that US espescially to really look at the bile ducts and that pancreas which actually IS on that L side where you kind of described that sharper pain at? it would help alot in trying to possibly find a problem there. once a pancreas becomes inflammed for some odd reason,trust me. it can create alot of pain in a human being. my son was having L sided pain that kept getting blown off by his GI doc? they never of course bothered to actually check what just are the very basic pancreatic enzymes(amylaise and lipase? check and see if your doc checked these, i doubt he did with basic testing) once they DID like two months after this nasty pain developed the enzymes were off the freaking charts. this is just one possible area that can create pain on that L side that can be easliy checked and ruled out with simple lab work?

i would ask the doc in light of just having this pain move up and what you now have on that L side alone to have the pancreatic enzymes checked? and then get that US referral to just 'look' inside. with certain types of real pain and it being from a specific organ or area, you can have what is called 'referred pain' to other areas too by virtue of connections to it and more directly in how the innervating nerves just run themselves thru the abdominal itself? so that too can create pain in a more bilateral way as well. i do hope your doc really sees the need here for more real testing to find the true generator of this for you. if he is not willing to really help you which just IS your primarys job? i would definitely fire this one and find another who just does the job that any given primary is supposed to do for their patients. you do NOT have to 'settle' when it comes to just needing a good thorough primary when things hit the fan in your body. you just DO have certain rights and expectations from any doc, espescially your basic primary who IS the coordinator of anyones ongoing care. good luck in getting to the source here. please keep me posted kris, FB
Nothing really brings on the pain, it's just kind of there. It has gone from being on the both sides to being just on the left side, where it's now just sore through the whole ribcage. I have had a CT scan a few months back as well as an ultrasound. Both, again, were normal. Nothing "brought on" the left sided pain, it just sort of happened out of the blue. The only relief I feel from it is laying down. Sitting up or standing seems to make it worse. Thanks for all your suggestions FB. Gave me a lot to think about. Just trying now to figure out what to do next. My primary doc actually told me yesterday there was nothing else they could do

 
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Re: In pain! Help!

honestly? obtain a copy of that actual CT report for yourself just to actually read thru at least the very end in that summary where ANY findings at all that may have been seen by the interpretting radiologist would actually have been placed. the details are actually in the report more at the beginning? but findings,even those little 'incidental findings",which are something that any rad simply 'sees' show up on the films that they were NOT actually looking for? it can even be some type of anomaly in YOUR particular anatomy too listed about one thing or another? but DO obtain ANY and all real testing results so YOU simply KNOW that you were told everything? when any, espescially primary who just is NOT up enough on sooo many potential medical problems in a specific way, tells you everything was 'normal' it can actually mean there was indeed something, but in HIS opinion it was not actually 'pertinent" type of thing, when he or she simply does not even KNOW it could be a biggie finding?

honest to god, soo many people who have posted on these boards over the many years i have been here and this also happened to me too? were told that things were 'normal' but there WERE some in some cases VERY serious or important findings that we were never simply told about at all. it is a sick thing to do to any patient, but unfortunetly it does happen, way too often, mostly with specialists who just do not want to get involved in another problem? yep, its sick.

but primarys are just that, primary docs who only have very limited overall knowledge of more of the basics, or should just know when something is just over their heads like my primary who i love, and they send you TO the appropriate type of specialist? if this doc cannot 'do' for you simply ask to be referred to someone who can, a GI doc who HAS enough overall knowledge in this area to properly test and diagnose your particular problem. but DO simply obtain all test results done, always. you can get copies from your ordering doc(all labs he ordered too) or as with the CT, simply go to the actual facility who performed it and obtain a copy thru them? all you have to do is sign a release of information and they can make you a copy of your own reports. its pretty easy to get this stuff and since you just ARE in diagnositc mode right now too you just really need to be gathering up ALL test results here so YOU just have them. i keep all my stuff in this one expanding type of folder only becasue my extent of insane medical problems is huge. but DO get reports,espescially that CT that was done and also obtain a referral TO an actual GI doc who could probably diagnose you with a few tests even? but i would also ask your primary when you see him soon to just check out those pancreatic enzymes right now. that seriously could be the true source of your pain from what you have described here. just a good suggestion for you. if the enzymes are up,you may have pancreatitis which just can be brought on from alot of different reasons. but the abdominal US, really a good idea too. your primary CAN DO more for you than he seems to think simply by referring you for the more appropriate types of testing to rule things out or in. pretty basic stuff ya know?

just wondering if eating actually makes the pain worse at all espescially when eating more greasy or spicey type of foods? the thing here is that there is defintiely 'something' causing this pain that would show with the right type of real testing,and your primary is very MUCH capable of doing just that. a CT done months ago may not be showing the end result of what was or could have been in the very beginning stages of any real type of a condition or process so getting that US would be a good idea right now too.

if your primary has decided he is going to be lazy now and give up trying, then ask to be referred to a good GI doc who CAN help you right now in the very BEST ways identify the problem. your 'i can't do anymore for you' primary simply owes you that much if he 'can't' do for you, ya know? i do hope things can get figured out here soon for you. suffering simply sucks. but not knowing why can make you freaking crazy too. you just deserve some answers. please let me know how things are going, FB
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Old 02-04-2010, 05:17 AM   #5
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Re: In pain! Help!

I am with the same problem and I did stop go to doctors, I am taking nurofen+, because I know now thet hepatitis in my blood couse this, so I am waiting for second terapy. Are u after or before terappy?

 
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