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Old 10-16-2008, 09:00 AM   #1
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Question Toxic mold and nuerological problems

About 4 yrs ago my mother started having tremors in her left arm , just slight ones but enough to be disruptive. She went to the dr and had an MRI looking for parkinson's or anything else that might cause the tremors. They found nothing. After weeks of tests nothing was found so she has given up on Conventional medicine and is looking to a holistic DR. The tremors are worse and now in both arms , she has a lot of fatique and mood changes, as well as tinnitus. My parents had some damage to their roof after a storm and found out that the water problems they had fixed 2 years ago apparently came from the section of the roof above their bedroom. So water has been flowing down the inside of their bedroom wall for years. We have started wondering if there could be mold in the wall that has been causing this. Does any one have any experience with these symptoms? and how do we find out for sure?

 
Old 10-20-2008, 04:18 AM   #2
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Re: Toxic mold and nuerological problems

Hi caseymkay

Well there are lots of things taht could cause those symptoms but one that comes to mind because of my experience with it is a B12 deficiency esp common as we age......

I can cause the symptoms you have listed plus a truck load more eg numbness tingling anxiety palpitations anxiety mood changes personality changes fatigue shotness of breathe memory loss balance problems stomach issues vision problems on it goes......

Perhaps it would be worth hahving some blood tests done like
FBC
Folate
B12 serum
Homocysteine
MMA a uMMA is more sensitive
The last are important as they will be raised in a deficiency even if the serum is so called normal.......

Good luck

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Old 10-21-2008, 08:06 AM   #3
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Re: Toxic mold and nuerological problems

We've been going that route.... She's been taking b12 plus a lot of other natural substances for about 2 years now. and it's not any better... She's extremely resistant to seeing another "conventional" dr because they won't help.

 
Old 12-13-2008, 07:46 AM   #4
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Re: Toxic mold and nuerological problems

Caseymkay,
Yes mold can cause those symptoms. If your parents have had water intrusion even one time they could have a mold problem as that is all it takes! With an ongoing source of moisture they are at very high risk for toxic molds. They are very opportunistic and love to grow between walls which can make them hard to detect without professional help. Toxic mold is a very serious health issue and the symptoms cannot be successfully treated without removal of the mold. My suggestion is that you have a certified mold inspector come in to do the inspection. One who does not do the actual treatment is the best way to get a completely unbiased assessment. Be sure they use multiple methods of detection, not just the gravity plate method as it is too unreleiable. They must be willing to do a visual inspection or don't use them. Be prepared that they may need to take extra steps to ensure accurate readings.
Best of luck to you and your family. I lost everything I own, including my health, to toxic mold and cannot say enough about how destructive it can be. Beware, the longer it goes on, the harder it is to recover.
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Old 12-14-2008, 12:59 PM   #5
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Re: Toxic mold and nuerological problems

We have had the house thouroughly inspected and aside from a small amount of mildew, There's nothing here. She finally agreed to see a dr I know who is willing to run tests for mold and heavy metal poisoning, but After my own research into it I am convinced it's parkinson's.

 
Old 12-22-2008, 06:48 AM   #6
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Re: Toxic mold and nuerological problems

Caseymkay:
Well at elast you know now. Thanks be for that!
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Old 01-30-2009, 11:37 AM   #7
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Re: Toxic mold and nuerological problems

I became sensitive to indoor microbe problems last autumn. Normal stuff, itching eyes, nose, ears, slime, difficulty to breath, etc. But then one morning I woke up with jerking movements, call it ataxia if you will. Then I spent a week in a brand new house doing plenty of work outdoors, and all the symptoms disappeared at the end. But then I was accommodated in another building where there were visibly rotten floor planks for example. Next morning the indoor microbe sympotms were all back as well as the ataxia.

Neurologist says I have developed essential tremor (my father has it). I am not yet sure if I believe her. I think the ataxia may be associated with indoor air quality problems. Now I live in another old wooden house, having all the annoying symptoms but hopefully in a month will have a clean place to live. I'll report what happens then.

 
Old 02-03-2009, 04:12 PM   #8
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Hi tremoman:
Here's hoping you get moved asap. I can relate to what you are going through. Been there myself. Thanks be that you at least know now what you are dealing with and how to get safe again. Keep us updated...
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Old 02-08-2009, 05:23 PM   #9
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Re: Toxic mold and nuerological problems

I started getting neuro problems around the time that there was a water leak in my office at work. The office smelled like mold. And as I am allergic to mold it created itchy nose, eyes and skin, as well as the new tremors and twitches.

The symptoms lingered though, so I stopped attributing them to the mold. It turned out I have Neurological Lyme Disease.

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Old 02-09-2009, 05:53 AM   #10
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Re: Toxic mold and nuerological problems

Thanks sharewithme and seekfind. I am actually waiting for Neuro Lyme results. In the autumn there was tick attached to my skin and after that I had moving joint pains for about two months. Yeah, who knows what this turns out to be.

 
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I too had a tick on me before I started crashing very badly repetitively and got chronically sick with debilitating symptoms. There are many indicators that I have lyme disease. Right now but for a lack of money I would be seing a lyme specialist. Ignenex makes the best test for it but even that is not infallible. One good thing also is to test for secondary infections. <removed>
It is also very common for people to develop EI who have lyme disease. Seems the Borrelia burgdorferi bacteria block up the detox pathways and make it super difficult for the body to detox even "everyday" toxins.
Hope this helps.
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Old 03-01-2009, 11:53 AM   #12
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Re: Toxic mold and nuerological problems

seekfind, I read your post with interest about the neurological Lyme disease and tremors. What symptoms manifested in your case and what lead them to suspect the disease? Thanks!

 
Old 09-17-2009, 02:06 PM   #13
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I too had a tick on me before I started crashing very badly repetitively and got chronically sick with debilitating symptoms. There are many indicators that I have lyme disease. Right now but for a lack of money I would be seing a lyme specialist. Ignenex makes the best test for it but even that is not infallible. One good thing also is to test for secondary infections. <removed>
It is also very common for people to develop EI who have lyme disease. Seems the Borrelia burgdorferi bacteria block up the detox pathways and make it super difficult for the body to detox even "everyday" toxins.
Hope this helps.
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Out of curiousity, what does EI stand for?
It sounds really awful.

 
Old 09-17-2009, 02:40 PM   #14
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Re: Toxic mold and nuerological problems

EI means Environmental Illness which encompasses mold allergy/sensitivity, multiple chemical sensitivity (MCS) and electro magnetic field sensitivity (EMF). Many peopke with severe EI have some type of infectious diseasse in their past medical history with EBV (epstein barre) and lyme being the most common.

 
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Caseymkay,
Toxic mold is a very serious health issue and the symptoms cannot be successfully treated without removal of the mold.
sharewithme,

Circa 1980 I was in the water damage restoration business. I remember enough in spite of the 30 years to confidently say, "you know your stuff." You have given excellent info.

Drying technology was making rapid advancements in the late 70's and 80's. We often were able to dry wall cavities, under flooring and other trapped spaces by injecting dry air through multiple 1/2 inch tubes. We had a couple days to dry everything. We had the technology but often were called too late. The game was over once the mold took root. Everything had to be ripped out down to the studs then cleaned and dried. If I remember correctly the moisture content of wood in PA had to be below 18% before the home could be refurbished. Otherwise the operation would be an exercise in futility. "It's back."

Besides the mold risk, wet wood is soft wood. Termites, carpenter ants and other bugs just so love wet wood. The home becomes bug infested too.

Yes, those with existing conditions are the most vulnerable. Yet many people ignore water damage unless they are swashing around up to and above their ankles.

I ran into the son of an old biz acquaintance. The boy (30 yo now) took over the biz from Pop. He showed me an infrared camera he uses to detect trapped water. I played with the camera very carefully. He paid 15K for it. It is just one piece in an arsenal of instruments his business uses to detect moisture and monitor the dry down. When he leaves a building, it is positively dry.

There is no reason for sick building syndrome in any building or home other than out-of-sight, out-of-mind.

Bob

 
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