It appears you have not yet Signed Up with our community. To Sign Up for free, please click here....



Epilepsy Message Board
Post New Thread   Closed Thread
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 06-18-2006, 01:57 PM   #1
Senior Veteran
(female)
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: north of somewhere nice
Posts: 1,477
neurowreck HB User
Question Auras- how long do yours last/description

For me, it's a weird feeling in my chest- not pain, but a familiar "uh oh" sort of feeling and a spacey feeling in my head- a "good one" lasts 3-5 minutes- enough time go to the bathroom, lie down, and possibly get my 'as needed' seizure meds (Klonopin and Inderal) if I think about it--usually not thinking too clearly by then...a "bad one" is 2-3 minutes, and just enough time to go lie down- or maybe call for help if it's following another seizure too soon.


If I wake up from one seizure, and feel another aura, I usually feel like I'm at risk for non-convulsive status- but I've been known to frequently be on the floor, out cold when EMS gets there, so I don't know how "non-convulsive" it is- something knocks me out cold, and being alone, it scares me to not have anyone around, so with the 911 system set up to show my address and name, I can get out "need help- seizures", and if I'm having a strong enough second aura before waking up completely from the last seizure, can call for help...but I hate doing that- but all seizure recommendations say to not risk more seizures IF there's no complete 'recovery' from a first one . If I have just one, I stay home, and sleep it off , get a headache, and feel like I've been run over by a bus.

What's it like for you guys-- do you get auras? What are they like? How long do you have between the aura and the beginning of not remembering anything?

 
Sponsors Lightbulb
   
Old 06-18-2006, 05:40 PM   #2
Registered User
(male)
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 206
IJUSTWANNANO HB User
Re: Auras- how long do yours last/description

xxxxxxxxxxx

Last edited by IJUSTWANNANO; 09-04-2006 at 03:18 AM.

 
Old 06-18-2006, 06:43 PM   #3
Senior Veteran
(female)
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: north of somewhere nice
Posts: 1,477
neurowreck HB User
Re: Auras- how long do yours last/description

I don't have GMs either, that I know of - People who have seen the CPS say I 'chew', blink, and have mouth tremors, and sometimes my left arm shakes. At night, I'm not sure what goes on, other than waking up with a chewed up tongue, and inside of my right cheek, achy, and worn out. And sometimes incontinent. I had one GM during a party when I was 16, and my temp went way up, but don't know if the temp went up because of the GM, or the GM increased my temp...

 
Old 06-18-2006, 07:02 PM   #4
Registered User
(male)
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 206
IJUSTWANNANO HB User
Re: Auras- how long do yours last/description

xxxxxxxxxx

Last edited by IJUSTWANNANO; 09-04-2006 at 03:18 AM.

 
Old 06-20-2006, 02:25 PM   #5
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 6
sbma HB User
Re: Auras- how long do yours last/description

Hi all. Just want to thank people on this forum for the opportunity to share my wife and mine expereinces. We have been going to doctors now for three and a half years and they just seem to shrug. Maybe some of you have similar symptoms.

Three and a half years ago, after having three hard ciders THE NIGHT BEFORE my wife woke late to go the bathroom and collapsed on the kitchen floor. She was with it enough to call me for help. When I got to her I helped her to the toilet thinking she had stomach sickness. Once in the bathroom, she had a seizure. Her eyes were open but she was wasn't responding. Her jaw was shaking and some arms movement. It didn't last more than a minute or two. I called ambulance and gave her a glass of water which seemed to snap her out of it. The hospital said she probably had a virus and that she was very dehydrated.

Nothing happened for a few months when she began to expereince auras. She would get these at night, the second she drifted off to sleep. She knows who I am, but says things that make no sense at all. These last about a minute or two, sometimes less, and somtimes she can talk to me and make mild sense while having them. She had MRI's CAT scans and EEG's. Nothing. They started happening every few months or the night after having a glass of wine (She maybe had a few glasses per weekend). We got excited and thought that maybe she was having a wine allergy, and she stopped drinking it. For a few months, it stopped, but came back regardless. We then notcied that she would get them the night after eating anything with sulfites in it. We cut back on almost all sulfites but they continued happening every 6-8 weeks. They were so bad. She just talked silly for a few seconds and that was it other than feeling tired for the rest of the day. Also, she would get them throughout the day, for maybe eight hours, but they would happen every hour to the second almost.

Summer 2005, they began to happen every month like clock work on the same day. She fell asleep one night and ha dan aura. Becoming pros now, we knew she would wake the next day and have her standard string of auras. She went to work, had an important presentation, and the middle of it, had a grand mal seizure. I wasn't there to witness it, but it was pretty typical from what we understand. The doctors wanted to put her on Keppra, but my wife and I were skepitcal. We felt she had more of a metabolic thing going on then a seizure disorder. We didn't take the medicine, and the auras continued happening every month around the same time (not with her period) and they even seemed less intense...Until yesterday morning.

The night before last, she had an aura before falling asleep so we knew she would have a day of them the next morning. She had a presentation again, but was going to take the day off. When she woke, she had a smal laura and then minutes later had another grand mal seizure in bed. I called the ambulance. She was with it enough to tal to me by the time we got to the hospital. So now today we have started our first dose of Keppra. We still aren't convinced that it is Epilepsy and not some metabolic thing.

Has anyone heard of something like this? If she has a mouthful of wine, she will get an aura either that night of the night after. Also before she had the first seizure, she had once taken a calcium pill and expereinced an aura. We also feel like having auras for an entire day every hour, once a month is not typical, and might be a symptom of something metabolic.

Any thoughts?

Sorry to ramble, but we are very frustrated. Again, thanks for the chance to share.

 
Old 06-20-2006, 02:43 PM   #6
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 6
sbma HB User
Re: Auras- how long do yours last/description

Quote:
Originally Posted by IJUSTWANNANO
I have had GM's too. Only 6 total. I mentioned this before... they were caused by lack of oxygen... at least that's what the doctors said. I have sleep apnea. If I sleep on my back, I tend to stop breathing. I either wake up having a hard time breathing, or after a GM. Somnoplasty and tonsils out in July should correct it.
Oh, yes, I forgot. The doctor also mentioned sleep apnea. She snores terribly, often sounds obstructed. Her father and sister have it. Is it a real possibility for seizures?

 
Old 06-20-2006, 05:01 PM   #7
Senior Veteran
(female)
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: north of somewhere nice
Posts: 1,477
neurowreck HB User
Re: Auras- how long do yours last/description

What type of aura (which is really a simple partial seizure preceding another type of seizure) does she have? It sounds that if she's had more than one grand mal, she could be epileptic....have you guys seen any docs who will do a metabolic work up, to be sure that's not going on either primarily, or in addition to seizures? IF the Keppra helps, that will be a big clue.

My seizures don't have any rhyme or reason to them- some things make them worse, and sometimes, a bladder infection is going on, and the seizure is the first clue- otherwise, temperature control, not sleeping enough, and my period - if other things are going on- can trigger seizures, but not necessarily....sometimes they just happen.

 
Old 06-20-2006, 05:26 PM   #8
Registered User
(male)
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 206
IJUSTWANNANO HB User
Talking Re: Auras- how long do yours last/description

xxxxxxxxxx

Last edited by IJUSTWANNANO; 09-04-2006 at 03:14 AM.

 
Old 06-20-2006, 09:01 PM   #9
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 6
sbma HB User
Re: Auras- how long do yours last/description

Thanks both of you. We are going to doctors tomorrow, and I will request metabolic work up. I guess I am not too sure what constitutes a GM, but she has had three so far in almost 4 years. When the auras occur she just sort of spaces out for thirty seconds, but like I said, it occurs throught the day every few hours or so. The 3 GM's she has had two have occurred while waking up, and one while she was presenting, but had also had some supposed sulfite-free wine which turned out to have natural sulfites.

I will also request a full sleep study.

Thanks again.

 
Old 06-20-2006, 09:04 PM   #10
Newbie
(female)
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: San DIego
Posts: 8
JustwannaDream HB User
Re: Auras- how long do yours last/description

So I am starting to wonder if all these weird feeling and sensation that I have been feeling, and feeling like I'm just "off" are in fact seizures themselves? I will have then through out a day or two and then for about 2 or 3 days afterwards I'm just exhausted. Today I had a very bad day and just felt weird and off all day long. I still feel a little funny. I wish my vocab was better so that I could describe it to you guys but they are such odd feelings they are difficult to put into words. So could these feelings be a form of seizures? Or am I going crazy!?!?!?

 
Old 06-21-2006, 10:28 AM   #11
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 6
sbma HB User
Re: Auras- how long do yours last/description

There are some similarities between anxiety and the auras my wife has. I think the key is not to stress or freak yourself out. Chances are you could be given yourself anxiety, which raises your alertness and panic mode which will give you the feeling of an oncoming seizure.

Aside from feeling "out of it" for a minute, she also gets cold and then shivers for about thirty seconds. Sometimes during her monthly bout, she will just get shivers without much in terms of the mental lapse. Again, these always start at night and then linger into the next day every hour or so. Neither us, or her first few doctors (we've been through a few now) even suggested she was having seizures based on these monthly to-bimonthly symptoms. It wasn't until the first GM that we or doctors began calling them seizures. We also just learned today that her grandmother had seizures during a certain time in her life. So I guess it's hereditary too. We have been living a super stressful life of travelling and working. My guess is that this doesn't help her propenisity for them either.

Has anyone heard of high stress triggering seizures?

 
Old 06-21-2006, 10:45 AM   #12
Senior Member
(female)
 
dogmom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: U.S.A.
Posts: 264
dogmom HB Userdogmom HB User
Re: Auras- how long do yours last/description

I didn't know I was experiencing auras until I described what was going on to my neuro and he chastised me for not calling him. I keep a journal--as everyone should, I hear--of any 'weirdness' going on, print out a copy for myself and the doc and present it to him at every appt.
Anyway, my 'auras' consist of hearing doors slamming, gunshots, someone yelling my name, music, televisions blaring, etc.
I get the visual weirdness, as well, mostly if a streetlight is about to burn out and is flickering. I'll see a dark figure approach me from the woods, or bright flashes of color.
And I always get a strange feeling in the pit of my stomach then nausea.
All of the above-mentioned is followed by a period of staring off into space.

Needless to say, when I told this to my neuro. the meds dosage went up considerably.

 
Old 06-21-2006, 11:40 AM   #13
Registered User
(male)
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 206
IJUSTWANNANO HB User
Re: Auras- how long do yours last/description

xxxxxxxxxx

Last edited by IJUSTWANNANO; 09-04-2006 at 03:13 AM.

 
Old 06-21-2006, 02:02 PM   #14
Senior Veteran
(female)
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: north of somewhere nice
Posts: 1,477
neurowreck HB User
Re: Auras- how long do yours last/description

Absolutely, stress lowers seizure threshholds, and the fight or flight of anxiety is a form of stress on the body....anything that isn't "the norm' for a person can be a seizure trigger, but usually people begin to figure out their own, as they get more used to what's going on ahead of time (or someone tells them).

I'm SO glad that "pseudo-seizures" is becomming a term of the past, and non-epileptic seizures is the new preferred term, since there IS a seizure, but the primary cause isn't abnormal electrical brain activity (that's secondary) and the main cause can be something very real and very biological, like the hypoxia from sleep apnea, or various metabolic disorders- although threre are so many of them, that it would be difficult to pin them down, or get insurance to pay for all of the testing. And, someone can have both NES and seizure disorder- not an all or none thing....

I'm also wondering if I'm not having more simple partials during the day than I originally thought, since I'm having some weird ear ringing, vague dizziness or "not right' feeling, that doesn't progress to anything else, etc.... gotta keep better records than "sz- EMS here".... of course, I fired my neuro since she won't take payments, and has been uncool about not informing me in enough time to 'save up' to see her before my Carbatrol ran out- I called like I was supposed to do, and had done 3 times before, and the last time it was 'she won't refil that without seeing you" (understand needing to have the exam- just needed some time to save the money to go-- I'm on patient assistance for meds, think that'd cross someone's mind..... )....this 2 weeks before I was going to be out of the meds....no notice at all....didn't care that I was Medicaid pending, and wouldn't see me until approved and had an ID number. so scr*w her. I'm moving soon, and will get the office partner of the neuro I saw there (mine died of ALS)...the records should still be there after only 3 1/2 years.

 
Old 06-21-2006, 05:17 PM   #15
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 6
sbma HB User
Re: Auras- how long do yours last/description

Quote:
Originally Posted by IJUSTWANNANO
(Has anyone heard of high stress triggering seizures)


In my case, YES!
My first GM seizure happened because I had moved from a quiet rural town to a neighborhood near downtown Las Vegas, NV. Also, I was now living with a new girlfriend who had lived there for quite a while. She was used to the crime and noises of the Big City... I wasn't. Needless to say, I had a seizure. As soon as the doctor said I was OK to live alone, I moved back to the rural town again. I didn't have another GM for exactly 5 years. Then when my sleep apnea had gotten bad enough, I had another, then another... until I forced myself to sleep on my stomach.
Also, I have this odd thing happen when I am not thinking about it. At night while driving down a street with streetlights on, more often than not, a light or two go out completely. I'm not just thinking this, people with me see it too. I wonder if this has anything to do with having seizures?
Thanks, your story gives me some hope that my wife's past two GM's in four years are avoidable. Thanks for sharing.

 
Closed Thread

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Board Replies Last Post
Epileptic Auras PurpleRose Epilepsy 15 09-09-2008 11:07 AM
Auras pro17 Epilepsy 9 01-29-2008 02:30 PM
Auras continue after resection- any experiences scott111 Epilepsy 0 04-24-2007 07:03 PM
Post-Resection- continued auras update scott111 Epilepsy 1 04-18-2007 04:27 PM
Migraine "Auras" Interfere with my life.... nannie8 Headaches & Migraines 11 08-08-2005 08:04 PM




Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




Sign Up Today!

Ask our community of thousands of members your health questions, and learn from others experiences. Join the conversation!

I want my free account

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:00 AM.



Site owned and operated by HealthBoards.comô
Terms of Use © 1998-2014 HealthBoards.comô All rights reserved.
Do not copy or redistribute in any form!