ahh..another reason to fuel the infiriority of vegetarianism and soy products - Exercise & Fitness Message Board

********* · 02-15-2004, 02:42 PM

Here ya go

[url]http://www.agora-inc.com/reports/BUL/WBULE002/[/url]

ive been telling people this forever, soy will kill you and vegan diets are rediculous. i love moo moo's too and chickies but ITS GOOD FOR YOU... dont' know if i agree about the cigar part but ya know... take that vegetarians!!! (jk, do whatcha want, just throwin in my 2 cents)

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Naxis · 02-15-2004, 06:29 PM

Yawn. Anyone can come up with studies and statistics to back their beliefs. Theres a lot of reasons that people are vegetarians and vegans. That's kind of a lame resource, imho. Claiming that not eating meat is emasculating is ludicrous and retarded.

Endorphin Junky · 02-16-2004, 01:27 AM

He he! That guy looks really "manly". I'm in awe. Think I might go grow a moustache now

********* · 02-16-2004, 08:35 AM

why are people so willing to dismiss information if they don't agree with it? remember the fat flap during the late 80s and early 90s? i was reading my optimum sports nutrition by michael colgan yesterday (writting in 93) and he was talking about how an athelete needs only 15% of his cal from fat!!! wow how we have come around since then eh? he was even talking about the dangers of ketosis!!! lol... i wasn't trying to **** people off i just needed an attention getter, and the more anti-liberal you sound the more people are willing to look and start an argument

swine like little ******* huh? well anyway all this does is illustrate my point about soy and vegetarianisms dangers, not meant to be a thrashing. anyway im back on a bulk myself now and this n02 stuff seems to help... they werent kidding about increased penile rigidity in the morning, jesus christ!!! it sometimes wont go down for like 30 minutes OF WALKING AROUND... oh well.. some people might say "whatchu complainin about"... thanks for looking!

sean · 02-16-2004, 11:15 AM

I'm afraid the site is mostly a self-promotion for whatever the sponsor is selling.

I will give him one thing, though, endogenous testosterone level--natural production of t--is indeed related to meat eating, or at least to high animal protein diets. The link is a correlation, and it is not one-to-one by any means, causation is not at all certain, but there have been more than one study now that link consumption of red meat, eggs and so on to measurably higher t levels.

Other than that, his site seems a bit much, or maybe I should say a bit less than meets the eye.

sean