I was wondering if any of you seem to have an unusal amount of dental problems? Over the past 5 years or so I have been overwhelmed with gum pain, sensitive teeth, fillings, root canals, extractions, bridges, etc, etc, etc!!! I've had regular, routine dental care since I was 2, so it's not for lack of care. I brush and floss and do everything else I'm supposed to do. I am once again facing a new, bigger & better bridge to replace one I currently have. I haven't seen it mentioned on any posts about a connection between FM and dental issues.
God bless, Jen
yes, I do, though I couldn't tell you if it is fibro or any other health condition that I also have. I know with FM, grinding teeth, TMJ, and extremely dry mouth upon waking are common, I suspect this contributes to the problem. Just my two cents.
I posted a thread way back titled: "Cracks in my Teeth", when I was younger I had a lot of fillings, I was like 14 or so, but I have all those old fillings, which just for the simple fact that these old fillings have been discovered to swell and crack the teeth over years of time. I usually have a good check up, no problems, until last year. When they took all those pictures with that little camera, they found over 7 of my teeth that had cracks, some of them with multiple cracks in them. Dentist told me it wasn't from grinding my teeth, cuz when you grind the tops of your teeth are flat. Mine was from clenching which was due to stress and pain. I can even notice myself doing it when I'm up and awake. I'll notice that my teeth are clenched. I wake up with a lot of jaw pain and teeth pain. So now I have had so far two crowns, one root canal, and am scheduled for two more crowns. I have a bite guard that I sleep with at night. I have noticed that my jaw isn't so sore when I wake up now. The next tooth to get fixed is my very back tooth, dentist said it was literally shattering. But the most pain I feel are on the upper right side teeth, so bad that I had my husband get me some Anbesol on his way home from work, and it's very sensitive to cold and sweet on that side, nearly makes me pee myself! lol So, yes, definately I think FM can cause you to have dental problems. The clenching is called Bruxism. And let me tell you, those bite guards if gotten through your dentist are over $500 just for the lower. You usually only get the lowers. My insurance at the time paid for all but a couple hundred dollars of it, but now I have different insurance and it wouldn't have paid for all that. I'm thankful I got it before my insurance companies switched. Dang insurance companies, they can be a blessing and they can be a curse sometimes! lol
I didn't put two and two together till recently. But, I had great teeth most of my life and good dental care...the the last several years, there have been a ton of issues. My dentist has commented that looking at my teeth and how beautiful they look when I smile...she is shocked to see how many issues I have ended up with in the last several years! So..is it FMS????Who knows..but the coincidance is there for me.
I had an awful time when my wisdom teeth were removed and began showing severe symptoms of FM within a few months. Since then, I have had 4 fillings, and seen a specialist for facial nerve pain. I also grind my teeth at night and have TMJ.
15 root canals, 16 extractions, tmj, gum disease, yea, i have dental history!!
all this in only 6 years too!
giggle, i do love my new removable smile. brushing my teeth is so easy now!
I have the worst time these days with dental stuff. I went three weeks ago for some fillings and I had a reaction to the medication and I've had nothing but pain since I had the work done. It's so weird
I too have had numerous dental problems for about the past 6 months. I know now it is not actually due to the FM but sorta a by-product of it. It seems there are those of us FM sufferers who also have anxiety, which causes us to grit and gring teeth. I do this not only at night but have found myself doing it during the day too. My remedy?...I started chewing on straws..lol...might not be the best but has worked for me so far.
I do believe I also got FM from a Root Canal. I did not have it until shortly after my first Root Canal (which has never stopped being sore) in 1987. Teeth are so important. I do believe mine has been tied to that.
I have a horrible DEPRESSING teeth situation. Been fighting with plates, yada yada for years. Wondering if I should have them all pulled and see if I get well.....it would be worth it.
I need IMPLANTS........................but am scared to death of what that would do to me. Anyone here have them ? How did they affect you if at all ?
I'm CHOCOLAT...............a NEWBIE HERE. Got a load of health problems.
Fibro, Facet Joint Syndrome, MCS, Chronic Fatigue, Severe Arthritis all over my body and DDD. IS THAT ENOUGH ?
Have you tried OREGANO OIL ? OR HYALOURIC ACID ? Oregano is awesome for fatigue. Hyalouric acid is Synovial fluid in a pill..........feels like it puts a cushion in your joints.
Couldn't live without MSM and Glucosomine either. Omega 3, Zinc, Folic Acid, Calcium, Vit. C, B-50, Multi-Enzyme. These are things that have really helped me and I couldn't be without.
Glad to find you all....................blessings and health to all.
You brought up implants. My dentist suggested them also on my last appt. I have a bridge that was put in a couple of years ago. Last year, the tooth that the bridge was attached to (which had to be filed down to fix the bridge to) had to have a root canal. The root canal was done through the bridge. Because of this, the bridge loosened and fell out a couple of weeks ago. My dentist sees this alot, saying the procedures were done "bass ackwards." The trauma of the root canal on the bridge caused it to fall out. He suggested two implants, but they will cost approx $6,000 - none of it covered by insurance. That made the decision easy! No implants for me - not to mention I'm scared to death of them. I can't imagine anyone drilling into my jaw bone to put the post in for the implant to attach to. Also, my sinus on that side is very low and would probably be affected by the drilling - they may have to drill into the sinus, which to me sounds like a serious problem waiting to happen. I have enough going on, I don't need perpetual sinus problems due to implants. Anyway, now I have to decide if I want to continue super gluing my bridge back in every couple of days (because it continues to fall out!) or to spend a couple thousand dollars on a newer, bigger, and more improved bridge which will have to cover 4 teeth. I don't know! I need to save my teeth, but am scared to death of dental work. I have an awesome dentist who couldn't be any gentler, but I'm still a baby.
Wow girl, your taking very good products! I'm a oregano P73 user, among other things your taking. I do think root canals can cause many problems! I don't think there is any 1 thing that causes fibro. I do think that root canals can certainly contribute to the problem or be a trigger to the problem. I grew up with terrible teeth so I understand your problem. Do a search on natural dental care. There is so much out there about better ways to take care of your mouth and teeth, more than I can type! I would do a lot of things before I had my teeth pulled. Keep up the good fight!!
Wow....I can relate. Doc told me to fix my mouth with implants would be
$26,000.00 Yes, you read right.
I have also had to SUPER GLUE teeth before.....how miserable is that.
Teeth can really be a source of stress.
I was told he would do a SINUS LIFT.....and BONE IMPLANT. I have already had the Bone Implant when I had my 2 front teeth removed (that was a FUN DAY) and have had no trouble with that.
I'm like you...............one thing leads to another......and then what if something goes wrong with the $26,000.00 implants and my body rejects them.
What a dilemna. I'm going to a Dental School soon. My appt. is next month to see what they might do the lower bottom for. Try that little stretch and see how that goes FIRST.
I wouldn't mind taking out a LOAN and giving them my left and right arm, legs and blood, but if I thought I'd go through all that and then they didn't work.................I'D JUST LOSE IT.......just lose it.
This is not all my teeth ...........the 26K....it's just some of them....so it looks like a MONEY PIT to me. Doc was pressuring.............so I told him to STOP...and looked into the Dental School. I have friends who have had excellent work done there. We'll seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...............
At times, I'll mention my link to the fibromyalgia symptoms to my mercury-silver dental amalgams. When my tooth broke a little over 10 years ago, these muscle pains and headaches etc. were so bad. I was scared. Knowing that very few doctors understand this, I just decided to have these mercury fillings removed . It was the best thing that I could have done.
Today, I hear of people that I know that have back pains, with a mouthful of mercury fillings, and they have a hard time believing that these tiny black things in our mouth could cause so much trouble. But they do. Also there's lots of information suggesting that root canals could contribute to similiar problems too.
I know this is controversial because various groups say that mercury fillings are safe (without any scientific proof), but we do know that this mercury leaks constantly from these fillings. And we know that this extremely dangerous element accumulates in the body and is very difficult to remove.
If any of you would like to know more, please let me know. I lived in pain for decades, until finally turning my life around.
How difficult is it to replace existing fillings? And what do they replace them with? The silver ones are amalgam? I have alot of fillings. If replacing them would bring me relief, I'd do it.
God bless, Jen
For me, it was fairly easy...but it took a long time. My dentist removed two fillings per quadrant. The whole process took about two or three months. I had the more expensive porcelain fillings which were done in two steps. First the mercury filling was removed and a mold was made. I waited for the lab to make the porcelain fillings with temporary fillings in place. After they were made in about two weeks or so, my dentist cemented them in.
I had eight dental amalgams replaced. After decades of suffering with these pains, I was so excited to have gotten rid of this poison. My healing afterwards was so slow. I was just thinking the other day...that I don't have that painful knot near the shoulder blades. I know someone that does, who also has these painful "knots" with a mouthful of mercury fillings, but she doesn't believe me. So many people still don't believe. It's such a shame.
Yes, the silver ones are amalgam. It's "heartburn" to me to hear dentists still calling them "silver fillings" when there's more mercury than silver in a typical dental amalgam. Even if they want to say they're safe (without any scientific proof) at least they should be open about it and let us know that these fillings have one of the most dangerous toxins in the world for us. It would be much more appropriate to call them "mercury fillings". To this day, I call them that or "mercury-silver dental amalgams" so people don't get confused.
I don't think that any one of us can guarantee the results that I had. So, I encourage that you read up about this issue. I think the more people hear about this, and the more people that get cured, the more we'll hear about this. It will be some time, but eventually I think these mercury fillings will be banned. But for now, the controversy continues.
Even though root canals aren't an issue with me, because I didn't have any, we must be aware that these can cause serious problems too. I strongly believe for some people that dental restoration materials and fibromylagia are linked.
If you or anyone would like to know more about this, about the choices of white fillings available, or the cost etc., please let me know. Because this affected me so deeply, I have learned so much. Most of the time, I write my stories from memory, but sometimes I have to spend time doing some more research. I'd be glad to help, where I can.
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I recently read an article about the mercury that is in amalgam fillings. It wasn't very encouraging. I wish I knew where I had seen it, I would paraphrase what was in it. The article made me seriously think about having my fillings replaced. Makes me wonder if what we feel are side effects of the mercury. Mercury is lethal - which makes me wonder why on earth it was used for fillings in the first place!\
God bless, Jen
The cost to replace these mercury fillings with less toxic ones, varies from area to area (depending on the cost-of-living etc.). Sometimes, I'm so surprised to hear about how the costs can be so different.
A little over 10 years ago, I had eight of these changed for about $2500 (USD). The insurance paid about $1500 and I paid approximately $1000. The $1500 was the cost to replace the old mercury fillings with new mercury fillings. I had to pay the difference to get cosmetic white fillings.
I think for some people, in this day and age, that the cost could be double what I paid. If you can get the insurance to pay at least about 60 percent of the cost, then that isn't too bad. I got one of the most durable replacements, which is porcelain.
The horror of having mercury mixtures as fillings, is not only the toxins that we are exposed daily from this, but what is more frightening is the fact that this mercury accumulates. So, if a person has problems with this, and the mercury levels constantly increase, that's why for a lot of people it gets worse as you get older. I know for me, that's exactly what happened.
On top of it all, you have medical professionals still in the dark about this. Why don't more of them pay attention to this? We all have to remind them and tell them what we know and have experienced.