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Old 06-21-2008, 11:01 PM   #1
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HELP! I need advice....

Hello, and thank you for any help you can offer me.

I have been feeling badly for almost a year. I have been referred to so many doctors, and I have had so many tests and labs run. Everything is "normal" except for my increasing ANA titer. I have had Hashimoto's for 25 years. It has been controlled by meds. Lupus, RA, all the other autoimmune disorders have been ruled out multiple times. They keep testing and testing.... negative, negative. I have been unable to actually get any diagnosis from all of these doctors, but several have mentioned Fibromyalgia. I have researched on the internet and bought several books to read up on it, but somehow I cannot figure out how I really fit that profile or definition of FMS.

Most of my pain is on the left side of my body. My left back specifically. It has been up my neck into the lower side of my head, it has been in my shoulder - especially around the area of my shoulder blade and along my spine. It has been in my left "fanny" (buttocks). My left elbow. Only for a week or so did I have a very tender spot on the right side of my back (between spine and shoulder blade). I have not slept through the night in 11 months. This pain is sometimes so intense that I feel like my left lung or throat are being attacked.

What does Fibromyalgia pain feel like? Does anyone primarily have FMS pain on one side? Have you ever heard of that before? Does the pain feel like it is in muscles? Or nerve pain? Does anyone get these knot-like spots where their tender spots are? Maybe my right side hurts, and maybe that side just has a higher pain tolerance??? How do I know that this is really FMS and not something else that we are just missing?

I do not know what to do. I have become so discouraged that today I thought I would just stop going to the doctors altogether because all they do is draw more blood, run more tests, and tell me everything looks okay.... then they say, "maybe it's like fibromyalgia...."

I would appreciate anyone's input on the different ways FMS pain can occur.

Thank you. I am trying to keep on hoping............. if I could just know something......

 
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Old 06-22-2008, 04:35 AM   #2
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Re: HELP! I need advice....

Rigelbee,hello ive read your post and you talk about lab work.have they done mris,of neck cervical and thorasic spine?my pain also started on left side it is still worse on left side,but they tell me i have it on both sides just worse on the left,if they have done mris and found nothing i would consider finding someone who specializes in fibro,not somebody that is just giving you a name to get rid of you.do you know what i mean,i know its hard to think straight when your in that kinda of pain,is there someone who can help you?my daughter has been a great help lately because when i get bad when its over i cant remember as well as she describes.you need help and it doesnt sound like your getting it.please keep me posted,it could be so many different things but if it is fibro you have stumbled onto some of the greatest people on this board. marywoo

 
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Old 06-22-2008, 10:26 AM   #3
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Re: HELP! I need advice....

Thank you so much for responding. Thank you HUGELY for the information you have given me - especially for the little fact that your pain started on left side. That is why I kept thinking "it can't be fibromyalgia ...because it isn't on all those 18 spots."

Yes. I have had cervical, thoracic, and lumbar MRI's. They showed minimal degeneration in C-5 and C-6 as well as L-5 / S-1. The physiatrist and neurologist say it is not enough to be responsible for my pain. Although, the neurologist is doing nerve conduction tests Monday just to "confirm" his belief that my pain is not related to the MRI results.

I have had CT scan. I have had ECG's. I have been to rheumotolgists, internists, neurologists, physiatrists, chiropractors, physical therapists, etc. etc. etc.

I am sure others before me have felt like there was something horribly wrong with them before their diagnosis. I guess that is where I am. Until somebody actually decides that is what I have, my mind is just going to run and latch on to anything and everything. I need to figure out if there are any doctors here (Hawaii) that are good in dealing with FMS. I don't know anyone here that has this, so I am just calling cold-turkey to different doctors and praying to find someone. I like my primary care doctor, but he is very methodical and careful not to jump to anything until he is certain. I KNOW he accepts FMS because he has mentioned it to me, but I feel like I will go crazy waiting for him to come to the conclusion that is what I have.

Your information that you had greater pain on the left side is the first I have ever known that FMS doesn't have to be equal all over those spots.

Thank you again.

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Old 06-23-2008, 10:04 PM   #4
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Re: HELP! I need advice....

Hi. I too am a newbie on here but not a newbie to pain. I have fibro and I have all the symptoms. I hurt on both sides equally, but my right elbow has always hurt more than my left. I have sooo many other things going on too so I may not just be describing the fibro symptoms. Like you I have DDD in total spine. Have had neck surgery with cadaever bone, lumbar surgery, and have a spinal chord stimulator in low and thorasic. My hip on right hurts more than left but my left buttock and left leg hurt a lot also. I had 9 surgeries in 2 years with all this stuff and still have more to come. I think I can tell you about how the fibro feels on its own though. I first started telling my Doctor my skin hurt to touch. I mean really hurts to touch. When they take my blood pressure I almost cry. When they put on a rubber band to take blood I also do. Mammograms hurt so much I do cry. I wake up during every colonoscopy! They say they have to give me more meds than anyone else. At one time I was put in the hospital for 7 days with just pain. Finally after I had been on morphine for about a month, they finally put me on a pain patch called Duragesic. I couldn't live without it now. Not just because of the withdrawals from it, but it has made my pain so much more tolerable. It hurts real bad to push in with 1 finger almost anywhere on my body. Not hard just barely. My Dr. said it was my muscles that were hurting. Do you have a very bad memory? I sure do! I know my DDD in my neck made my corresponding hand and arm hurt and go numb. Lumbar DDD makes my hip, butt and knee hurt on my left side. I am so tired all the time but I also have hypothyroidism and lupus so I don't know which is causing that. My neuro surgeon said DDD can cause a lot of pain on the side it may be pressing the nerves on. Nerves can hurt so bad. When I had my neck surgery and I woke up, it was like they had removed my nerve. It didn't hurt on my left arm anymore just my hand but I also had carpal tunnel and that went away right after surgery for that. I also have osteoarthritis grade IV. It can sure make any joint feel real bad. I have it in both knees and hips and jaws. I know how frustrated you are. I have definitely been where you are. All I can say is keep trying to find the right Doc. I went through about 20 in 2 years. Finally got a new Dr. and went to a new Rheumy. and they found Lupus and other stuff. My pain management Doc is the one who diagnosed fibro but many had said I had it. They can't do much for you other than find a med that can help. Ultram didn't help me much. Neither did any of the others or I was allergic to it. I sure feel for you! I would try to really follow up on spinal issues. Luckily I had a good neuro and he said my tests (MRI etc.) showed a little trouble, but he thought he should go in anyway. He said once he got in there he found out why I was hurting so bad. So don't trust MRI's or many other tests either. Almost all have been showing just a little something until they get in there and are amazed at what the have found. Find a surgeon who will listen more to you and your symptoms than test results. A good one will! GOOD LUCK AND KEEP ME POSTED.
Cindy

 
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Re: HELP! I need advice....

Have you tried a chiropractor and massage? Sometimes I get a severe pain in my left shoulder blade, but never in my right shoulder blade. I know it's from how I sleep. The chiropractor can usually relieve the pain. Right now, the back of my neck on the left side has a sharp pain, my entire neck feels tense and tight, my mid back hurts, and my arm muscles are "tired". I don't have much brain fog right now, but don't ask me to do anything complex or with multi-steps. The muscles on top of my shoulders feel like hard knots and are painful.

Here are some of the ways my pain occurs, it's a mixture of fibromyalgia and other things, with varying degrees of severity at any given time:
1) pain in all my joints, knees, fingers, the bones in my fingers hurt, and my joints swell. I can barely lift my leg to walk up steps. My knees feel so unsteady, they feel like they will give way. I can't hold my hairbrush. A description would sound like arthritis.
2) My skin hurts, a slight bump feels like a hammer hit it, a washcloth feels like sandpaper. I had to stop allergy shots due to the pain. This is apparently a common fibromyalgia symptom.
3)My brain is foggy, I lose my executive functions, can't make decisions, have severe ADD. Can't make heads nor tails of a book.
4)The muscles in my arms and legs feel "tired" all the time, I am worn out from going up a single flight of stairs, like my muscles have been working all day.
5)depression, cry easily over small stresses and crowds, even waiting rooms
6)constant muscle spasms, always in my back, and sometimes in my calves and toes
7)the rheumatologist pushed on 18 points, and 14 of them hurt. Apparently that was something he used to diagnose the fibromyalgia.
8)nominal aphasia
9)all the anxiety and social difficulties that come with Asperger's Syndrome
10)hips, back, and neck constantly "out of alignment" with pinched nerves causing numbness and tingling, sore spots, and things not moving correctly, like my neck hurts really bad to turn my head to look behind when backing up. Headaches. When the hip is bad, I hobble around, and am constantly wiggling trying to get relief from the almost constant mid-back pain.
11)overall pain in my back, feels bruised (this is an allergic reaction to phenol, which is in canned foods)
12)sinus swelling, face swelling, eye swelling, stopped up nasal passages, stopped up ears, horrid painful gas, diarrhea, sore throat, lots of phlegm
13)constant itch from poison ivy circulating in my system and oozing out in various places since at least 1980 (I use Zanfel and benadryl gel to stop the itch)
14)osteoporosis
15)wake up tired, body doesn't move very well
16)poor memory all my life
17)TMJ which was never relieved since I was 18, so I created a habit of not letting my teeth touch

It is obvious that something has gone haywire with my immune system, but I'm not sure that anything can "fix" it, so we're focusing on relieving the symptoms and removing the substances that have become toxic to me right now.

I discovered gluten was creating the bulk of problems 1, 2, 3, and 5. I have two friends with fibromyalgia who also notice a decrease in pain when they avoid wheat/ gluten. My vitamin D was super low, and taking a mega-supplement prescribed by my doctor has helped with 4 and 5, and should help with 14. I see a chiropractor every week, which helps with 10, also he gave me a TENS unit which helps when I can't get to his office as quickly as needed. I'm sure massage would help my back, but insurance doesn't cover it. My ENT has me on allergy drops now (have been on and off shots for 30 years, and have had allergy problems since 1964). They help with 1, 2, 3, 9, 11, and 12.

I find time to be totally alone with no social contact for a day or two at a time, which helps with 5 and 9.

I don't know how others with fibromyalgia are, but I have so many symptoms, I don't know which one goes with which diagnosis! I just try to do whatever it takes to reduce my pain and stress level. My psychologist helps me cope with all the stress of constant pain and feeling overwhelmed with life. I don't normally feel the severe fatigue that others mention, mine is just a low energy level. I can keep moving, but slowly, and can last a long time if I pace myself.

My various doctors never talked to each other, to see me as a "whole". I recently got a referral to a new Internal Medicine doc, who specializes in "diagnosis and treatment of complex medical problems, including multi-system diseases". She discovered the vitamin D problem, and sent me to several new doctors to find/rule out various diagnoses. Hopefully, she can put all the pieces together and see the big picture.

I hope you find a doctor who can help you find relief for some of your symptoms.

Last edited by roses4lace; 06-24-2008 at 12:12 AM.

 
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