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Old 07-04-2008, 04:53 PM   #1
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Red blood spots under the skin on my ankles and feet

I just started getting these spots a few weeks ago only on my ankles and they come and go but seem now to be spreading to my feet. I have not been able to get a simple diagnosis and can't find anything on line. Could be allergies? Could be vitamin deficiency? I am looking for answers. Thanks.

 
Old 07-05-2008, 10:17 AM   #2
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Re: Red blood spots under the skin on my ankles and feet

Hi Daver62 just read your post and it sounds very similar to purpura. There are different types but just putting purpura in any search engine usually gives you loads of examples and pics. I had it years ago when i was a kid but the spots coming and going sound very familiar. Anyway hope this helps.
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Old 07-05-2008, 07:16 PM   #3
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Re: Red blood spots under the skin on my ankles and feet

I agree-- sounds like purpura to me, too (which is a type of vaculitis)... depending on the size of the spots. I had Henoch-Schonlein Purpura as a child. The spots were large and I was very sick with it. How large are your spots?

Hope you find an answer,
Lynn

 
Old 07-06-2008, 10:34 AM   #4
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Hi rlynnbaker, just read your last post and I also had HSP when I was a child. I have been doing a bit of research into HSP and its effects and I'd be grateful if you could tell me a bit about how you were affected with it. I know that a cousin (also female) was affected at roughly the same age as I was (8 years old) but she was affected from the waist up, whereas I was unable to walk but had no major upper body problems. Mine started off with the "pin *****" red blood spots on the soles of my feet which turned into bruises covering all of my legs within days. I also remember having stomach cramps and generally feeling like i had flu. I was admitted to hospital overnight for tests but was given no medication at all as at that time not many doctors had heard of it. I was ill with it for roughly 6 weeks.
Recently I've read reports about how it can flare up again in adults but there isn't much information about on this. I'm just wondering now how much of fibro is related to it and vic versa.
Any info you can give would be great, Thanks
Poppy

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Old 07-06-2008, 10:57 AM   #5
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Re: Red blood spots under the skin on my ankles and feet

I just started getting small red dots too. Mine also come and go.

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Old 07-06-2008, 12:11 PM   #6
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Re: Red blood spots under the skin on my ankles and feet

Thank you all for the information. I will check into it and let you know if I find anything. I plan to see the doctor this coming week. It seems to be spreading to the tops of my feet and up to my calfs. They are very small spots; not on the skin and do not itch or feel like bumps or anything.

Thanks.

Daver62

 
Old 07-07-2008, 11:44 AM   #7
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Hi rlynnbaker, just read your last post and I also had HSP when I was a child. I have been doing a bit of research into HSP and its effects and I'd be grateful if you could tell me a bit about how you were affected with it. I know that a cousin (also female) was affected at roughly the same age as I was (8 years old) but she was affected from the waist up, whereas I was unable to walk but had no major upper body problems. Mine started off with the "pin *****" red blood spots on the soles of my feet which turned into bruises covering all of my legs within days. I also remember having stomach cramps and generally feeling like i had flu. I was admitted to hospital overnight for tests but was given no medication at all as at that time not many doctors had heard of it. I was ill with it for roughly 6 weeks.
Recently I've read reports about how it can flare up again in adults but there isn't much information about on this. I'm just wondering now how much of fibro is related to it and vic versa.
Any info you can give would be great, Thanks
Poppy
Wow, Poppy-- I have NEVER met another person who had HSP!!! I had it when I was 7. We had field day at school that day and so (because the doctors had not dealt with it much yet), they considered for a while whether sun exposure or sunscreen applied by my teacher, etc. had anything to do with it. They also thought I had juvenile RA for a while before they figured out what it was. Arthritis-like features are apparently usually with HSP, too.

As I remember it, my legs were covered with these dots, which became bruises, but I believe the pain was first-- in my feet and legs and then everywhere. I couldn't walk and I hurt severely everywhere-- even to be touched, carried, etc. I couldn't eat-- couldn't keep anything down; not even aspirin, so they did treat me with a suppository of something for the pain. I also swelled-- I remember specifically looking at how swollen my hands were and being scared because I didn't understand what was going on.

I believe mine cleared up in around 6-8 weeks as well. I have often wondered if all my ailments today were somehow connected to HSP. I would love to chat more with you to see if we share other similarities!

Lynn

 
Old 07-08-2008, 09:44 AM   #8
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Hi Lynn, apart from my cousin you're the only other person I know who's had HSP.... Was chatting to mum about how I was affected and she says she still thinks that my HSP was caused by a virus after being by stagnant water. I can remember going pond dipping with school and getting very wet and covered with weed ! I also remember the doctors at the hospital saying that it wouldn't be anything to do with that but my own gp wasn't so sure. As far as the hospital went I was put in a private room and basically having to undergo loads of blood tests. I was lucky cos my gp knew what it was instantly but cos it was that rare all the docs at the hospital were queueing up at the door to examine me ! Was like being a celebrity Also at the time everyone in school had chicken pox. At least 15 kids in my class caught it so it was the joke that I had to go one better !
I had always had headaches/ migraines since I was a kid and can remember saying that I felt ill a lot of times before school but whether that was cos I was ill or just didn't want to go to school I'm not sure. Also I used to get loads of growing pains in my legs- yet something else I was at the docs for but was told I would grow out of it !
Often wondered about that cos with every virus i've had it they always seem to start with aching legs just like growing pains though at 5 foot 11 I hope they're not ! Since being diagnosed with fibro I've asked the docs about any possible connection between the two and out of 4 docs there is one who definitely thinks that there is but has insufficient proof. The other have just said that it's a childhood disease and there's no relation. I'm not convinced tho.
Anyway I'll shurrup for now cos this is turning out to be an essay ! I'd love to see if we have anymore similarities tho so i'll keep a lookout for you.
Poppy

 
Old 07-09-2008, 12:20 PM   #9
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Poppy,

Yes-- I think HSP is still something that not a lot of people have heard of, but it seems that doctors are learning more about it-- it seems that way anyway. I have mentioned it at every specialist I have been to (being bounced around from dr. to dr.) and they all act as if they are very familiar with HSP when I mention it. None of them have ever suggested a connection on their own though, but the neurologist I saw basically said that he thought that what I have, I have had my whole life-- meaning whatever has been the root of all of my medical problems has always been there.

Before I had HSP, I had a herpes simplex infection of the mouth (at age 2 or 3). I had chicken pox one year, impetigo the next and then HSP the next year. Also, on the day the HSP showed up, after our field day activities, I remember swinging on a very high swing and holding on really tight-- I remember the chain was really rusty and my hands were even orange from it. So, along with the concerns from the sunscreen, I have wondered if it could have been from the rust.

You mentioned, too, that you had "growing pains" in your legs. As a kid, after the HSP, I was taken to doctors repeatedly for pain in my legs and feet (my mom called it growing pains, too), and have always had cramps and pain in them. Also, EVERY time I get a virus or cold, my knees and hips are the first to hurt. I always know it's coming because of that. I had a stomach virus just hit me earlier this week, and my legs were killing me right before.

I just started taking Armour Thyroid, prescribed by my integrative doctor. She had done some bloodwork before my FMS was diagnosed by the rheumatologist and my T3 level was low. It will be interesting to see if it makes a difference.

It seems to me that there is a connection with all of this somewhere, and as my neuro. said, whatever it is, it has been this way for a long time-- my guess is with both of us. Whatever caused the HSP, in my opinion, probably is connected to the FMS. I don't know about you, but I wish there was a doctor out there somewhere who could figure out why and what to do about it.

It will be interesting to keep in touch with one another-- maybe we can be of help to each other.

Lynn

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