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Old 02-03-2011, 10:26 AM   #1
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sleep how important is it?



My pain has been getting worst for month now and i am sure it is linked with the lack of sleep i get at night, i dont get more then 4 hrs a night and that is as best and throughout the night, i have to go back to bed in the morn when the kids have gone to school as i am shattered and if i dont go back to sleep i cant make it through the day and fall asleep when the kids are ment to be picked up by me so not good, the other night was the worst i got 2 hrs over the whole night, i try to relax before i go to bed i read and dont watch tele it seems that the busier i am the less i will sleep that night but then nothing makes sense with this disorder.
Do others suffer from lack of sleep i am due to try cymbalta has anyone found this helpful in lack of sleep? what do others do to help there sleep problems? medications or other things.

 
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Re: sleep how important is it?

My specialist told me that sleep is one of THE most important weapons against fibro. I have trouble in this department, but not as much as some of the others. I take cymbalta, which helps. I also take a muscle relaxer before bed or every one of my muscles will seize up. Have you talked to your doc? Hugs and prayers, diane

 
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Re: sleep how important is it?

I just replied to your Cymbolta post about Calcium & Magnesium
I hope you can get a prescription for a muscle relaxer like Flexiril! I've always had problems falling asleep. I could lay awake till 2am easily... My muscle relaxer puts me right to sleep now & I dream I get about 6-7 hours usually. Doesn't matter how much I get though, I'm just as tired anyways.
I get the impression that you have anxiety, not depression? I'm that way. Cymbolta has been a life saver... I noticed it working within a few days! love it!

 
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Re: sleep how important is it?

sleep is very important because it is in stage 3 and 4 of sleep that muscles restore themselves. Lack of sleep intensifies pain. A sleep study I had indicated I was not getting into deep sleep and was waking up 60 times in 5 hours. I take Pamilair at night. I also take calcium and magnesium before I go to bed. I had tried Prozac,Flexoral to name a few and I became depressed taking them. They had the opposite effect.

 
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Re: sleep how important is it?

HI Angel - sleep is absolutely the single most important thing - I had no idea I had fibro for 15 months and had never linked the pain I was in and not sleeping - on nights of better sleep my fibro isn't as bad. I see you live in England me too - if you go to Boots and talk to the pharmasist they can help with over the counter herbal sleep aids - I take nytol herbal and calms - they contain things like valerian, hops,passion flowers - they made a world of difference - not always but lots more than before
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Old 02-04-2011, 06:30 AM   #6
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Re: sleep how important is it?

Oh yes sleep is the most important healing factor. Restorative, deep sleep. Not all of us fibro people get that. And hence, the pain is even worse because of that. My NP has tried me on several things to help me get to sleep, and because I have no health insurance I am limited to things that are cheap. I tried melatonin, worked one time. Trazodone worked for a while. Now she has me on amitryptilline. It works wonderfully although I have to titrate up periodically to keep at a dose that gets me to sleep, right now I am at 50mg every night. But sleep is so important, without the meds I cannot get to sleep and wake up every hour or so. I never had a problem getting to sleep until I was plagued with fibro. So to sleep I will take whatever help I can get.
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Old 02-04-2011, 11:19 AM   #7
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Re: sleep how important is it?

yes i think lack of sleep is a very big part of why we have fibro..
i take one 3mg melatonin... an half a Advil pm pill at night...

I would wake every 2hrs and only would get about 4 hrs total if i was lucky,... went back to sleep for about an hr after the kids would go to school.

BUT now i go to bed about 10;30 wake about 4am to go potty, and go back to sleep till 5:45 when hubby gets up, i go back to sleep till i wake on my own at 6:15 and i force myself to stay up...
by staying up i seam to sleep longer at night, if i go back to sleep even for the hr after the kids leave im back to waking every 2 hrs an never feeling like i slept...hope that helps....

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Re: sleep how important is it?

Isn't a drag waking up every 2 hours like that? I used to hate that. I'm worried I may need to up my dose or add something because the past few nights I've been waking during the night and I'm freaking out I may start waking every 2 hours again. I have some pretty intense dreams, very vivid and very weird. But if I'm having dreams like that I would guess I'm getting some good slumber. Lololol
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Re: sleep how important is it?

Sandra,
Ive been hearing lately of us fibromites having weird vivid dreams,i always have pretty weird, me screaming and crying dreams!! you'd think with us dreaming like that ,like you said ,we must be sleeping then...hhhmmm
i do what your doing , i go thru cycles,,so i have to take a whole advil pm an 2 melatonin..an work my way back down..i started out and did fine with just one melatonin at nite..so i cycle....but it works for me,,i don't take any other meds or pain meds..

ohh btw at first for about 3 nites if anyone here starts taking melatonin,,also ask your dr and look it up...you'll have bad dreams..go figure.. but about the 4th nite there just our (MY) reg weird dreams...thought i should let you know...i read id have that happen so i wasn't too freaked out..

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Re: sleep how important is it?

That's interesting... I never really dreamed until I started Flexiril. I'd dream maybe once a year & was always pretty weird or scary... I'm dreaming every night now & they are still weird or scary... I want sex dreams dammit!

 
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Re: sleep how important is it?

My dreams are pretty weird and vivid. They almost always involve my psychotic ex husband. @ themartinfarm, sex dreams??? Why dream when you have a husband right there??? Lololol!!!! You're too funny!!
I love dreaming, it's like having a movie right in your head. Teehee....

 
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My dreams are pretty weird and vivid. They almost always involve my psychotic ex husband. @ themartinfarm, sex dreams??? Why dream when you have a husband right there??? Lololol!!!! You're too funny!!
I love dreaming, it's like having a movie right in your head. Teehee....
Ah but you can do anything in a dream!

 
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You can do anything in real life as well...as long as you and your partner are both on the same page ;D

 
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you guys are silly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!..

 
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Re: sleep how important is it?

If you are waking every 2 hours and having bad dreams, then your blood sugar may be too low. You might check that out. With my last flare, my reactive hypoglycemia was causing that.

I was eating a bigger carbohydrate- laden meal for dinner and then went to bed and apparently my body shot out a lot of insulin in response and my blood sugar bottomed out. So that I wouldn't go in a coma, my body shot out adrenaline and cortisol to increase the blood sugar and that was what was waking me. Who can sleep with adrenaline coursing through your veins?

Don't know if that is what is happening to you, but a good majority of people with FMS also have problems with hypoglycemia and that can also give you weird or scary dreams. The only way to know for sure is to have a 6 hour glucose tolerance test. Just checking your blood sugar with a meter doesn't help because the adrenaline can kick up your blood sugar to normal in an instant.

You can also try avoiding big high carb meals before bed- kicking up the protein to keep your blood sugar stable. Some of the literature suggests keeping an ice chest by your bed with plain yogurt in it, and taking a few bites of it when you wake up in the middle of the night. The theory is to give you a protein to keep your blood sugar stable without making you go to the refrigerator and wake yourself up more.

I can't tolerate plain yogurt because of lactose intolerance, so I have a peanut butter jar and spoon at the bedside, and eat a few spoonfuls if I wake and feel hungry or shaky. It helps me sleep better. I also have a protein snack before bed and soon after I wake up in the morning.

Don't know if that is your problem, but it is easily tested. If having these type of snacks don't help you sleep, then maybe that wasn't your problem. If they do, then I would recommend your doctor be notified and you could be tested.

Hope this helps and pleasant dreams,

 
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