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Old 04-03-2011, 08:14 AM   #1
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Hi everyone,

I am looking for some advice. I am 6 weeks post op for microfracture on the talus dome of my left ankle (only a small lesion). I did it playing football 1 year ago, as a semi pro/ Royal Air Force footballer I received almost profesional footballer standard treatment until they decided they needed to operate. I was having only slight pain before my op, and i could run on a treadmil for 30 mins or on grass for 20 mins with only slight discomfort (it ached after the run). I could not play football due to the fact that my ankle felt almost hollow.

Since my op i have had no pain, only a little throbbing. I've been NWB for 6 weeks and i get my air-boot off on Friday this week.

I saw a top military/ sports surgeon who told me there is a small chance i will not play football again. Once i am a bit further down the line of rehab i will prob spend 2 weeks at the sports rehab centre. I am very healthy 28 year old and i have been taking glucosime sulphate to try aid the microfracture.

Has anyone else had similar problem with a positive outcome?

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Old 04-04-2011, 01:31 AM   #2
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12 weeks ago I had microfracture surgery on my right ankle. I had a cartilage tear of about 1x1,5 cm on the talus bone. The cartilage was not gone but was loose, like the skin of an orange being partially opened. They removed this loose cartialge and did the microfractures.

I am 37 and I have had this injury for at least 10 years. I was able to run and do other sports because the cartilage wasnt gone, just loose. Sometimes I had alot of pain other times non.

I had the surgery on the 17th of january 2011 and was NWB for 6 weeks followed by 4-5 weeks of max 25% WB (this may have been a mistake - should have been 2 or 3 weeks with 25%). In the last week I have increased the weight to 50% and now I am on 100% weight with 2 crutches still. Next week I will go to 1 crutch for 2 weeks and then no crutches.

I have had some pain in the past 4 days, but I believe this to be because of my excessive training of my right leg. The soreness does not feel like the pain from my cartialge tear, but from sore tendons and muscles on the front side of my foot and ankle.

I have experienced absolutely no pain from weight bearing yet and I have tried to stand on one leg only (my right one of course) a few times, so I am very positive about the final result.
Even if the healing of the cartilage is a success I have been told that I should wait to go back to high impact activities, such as running, boxing and tennis, until the summer of 2012, which is about 18 months post op. Apparently the cartilage takes a long time to heal and harden completely.
If the operation is not a success I probably will not be able to run, play tennis or box again.

The chance of a positive outcome increases with younger age and good fitness so I would say you have a good chance.
I am almost 10 years your senior and I am not in the best shape.

I hope the best for you.

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Old 04-04-2011, 06:46 AM   #3
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Re: Ankle Microfracture, talus dome

GTRH

Many thanks for your reply.

18 months of no sport will kill me. I had been aiming for returning to football (if at all) by sept/oct 2011. Thats 8/9 months post op. I have been following the recovery of a Baseball player called Sizemore (i think thats his name). He has just started playing again after an injury to his knee which required microfracture, his recovery time was 8 months.

The only problem I've had with my surgery is that on my first post op visit to my surgeon, he was on holiday so another doctor saw me. She had misplaced my notes and told me to weight bare 25% with crutches, just 2 weeks after the op. When i called the hospital 3 days later due to my ankle clicking, my surgeon told me to NWB totally. I'm praying that this will not have any effect on my recovery. This is something i will be bringing up with him when i get my boot removed on friday.

 
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Hi get

You dont have to totally abstain from sports, just do non-impact sports, such as swimming, cycling and so on.

I cant really say anything about what the weightbearing you did will mean for the end result. During my 6 weeks I had 3 accidents where I instinctively put weight on my ankle due to slipping/tripping and I dont think that did anything.

I think the most important thing to do is to keep up the motion exercises of the joint. I was told the more the better.

If damage was done, I certainly think you should demand som form of compensation.
I also believe that microfracture surgery can be done more than once, so it may not be over if it fails this time.

Keep your hopes up, do your exercises and relax.

GTRH

 
Old 04-24-2011, 02:57 AM   #5
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Just an update for anyone who read my first post.

I am now 9 weeks post op. I am off crutches and have been for 10days. I am having only a slight ache in my ankle, pain of maybe 1 out of 10 when i walk. My physio advised me to come off the cructches as long as their was no pain, which their isnt. I have now done 2 sets of 15 mins on the exercise bike and my knee to wall is increasing daily.

I feel alot more confident about the ankle now, the only time my ankle hurts is when i push on my heel, then i almost jump through the roof, hence i will not be doing that again.

when i put full weight on my ankle when walking their is no clicking but when i move it with no weight i get a slight click but again it is not paintful.

My physio has advised that i should be back playing football again, although she did not give me an expected date. I will just keep up the range of motion exercises and biking, until i can start running and start regaining strengh in my leg and ankle.

fingers crossed for a return to action for early next season, its been a long 1 1/4 years without kicking a ball.

 
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Re: Ankle Microfracture, talus dome

[QUOTE=GTRH;4722651]Hi

12 weeks ago I had microfracture surgery on my right ankle. I had a cartilage tear of about 1x1,5 cm on the talus bone. The cartilage was not gone but was loose, like the skin of an orange being partially opened. They removed this loose cartialge and did the microfractures.

I am 37 and I have had this injury for at least 10 years. I was able to run and do other sports because the cartilage wasnt gone, just loose. Sometimes I had alot of pain other times non.

I had the surgery on the 17th of january 2011 and was NWB for 6 weeks followed by 4-5 weeks of max 25% WB (this may have been a mistake - should have been 2 or 3 weeks with 25%). In the last week I have increased the weight to 50% and now I am on 100% weight with 2 crutches still. Next week I will go to 1 crutch for 2 weeks and then no crutches.

I have had some pain in the past 4 days, but I believe this to be because of my excessive training of my right leg. The soreness does not feel like the pain from my cartialge tear, but from sore tendons and muscles on the front side of my foot and ankle.

I have experienced absolutely no pain from weight bearing yet and I have tried to stand on one leg only (my right one of course) a few times, so I am very positive about the final result.
Even if the healing of the cartilage is a success I have been told that I should wait to go back to high impact activities, such as running, boxing and tennis, until the summer of 2012, which is about 18 months post op. Apparently the cartilage takes a long time to heal and harden completely.
If the operation is not a success I probably will not be able to run, play tennis or box again.

The chance of a positive outcome increases with younger age and good fitness so I would say you have a good chance.
I am almost 10 years your senior and I am not in the best shape.

I hope the best for you.[/QUOTE]

 
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Re: Ankle Microfracture, talus dome

[QUOTE=LauraDulley;4799196][/QUOTE]
I have had a similar injury and am 6 weeks post-op microfracture surgery. I had a lot of edema in my talus but didn't have any bone removed, only the cartilage that was delaminated from the bone. I would like some positive news and wonder how you are doing now. I am very active and usually run among many other sports. My foot is still quite swollen and sore and am just starting to partial wt-bear.

 
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Re: Ankle Microfracture, talus dome

Hello Fellow Ankle Microfracturers,
I am about 15 weeks post-op of my micro-fracture on my left talus. I have just begun more physical walking without significant pain (1-2 miles). My surgeon and orthopedist both say they think I will run again. I am optimistic they are correct. I tried running for 3 minutes on a treadmill last week under the supervision of my physical therapist. It was okay, but there was still some achyness. I haven't run injury-free since May of 2010. I miss the sport intensely and have dealt with much emotion and weight-gain this year. I frequently come on this website and post and read others postings regarding OCD's and recovery. Good luck!

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Old 07-18-2011, 02:37 PM   #9
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Re: Ankle Microfracture, talus dome

Hi

I am now 6 months post op and I am doing excellent. Other than muscle and tendon soreness from lack of use, I have not had any pain. No pain like anything resembling the old injury. I was very diligent in doing my excercises and I was slow to start weight bearing.

I have not started doing any high impact sports yet and I dont intend to start any time soon. My worry is that if I begin too soon, the new cartilage will degrade and I might start to experience pain again after a few years. I asked a friend of mine, who is a physical therapist for our olympic team in Denmark. He spoke to their surgeon and specialist about how long a break from high impact sports is recommended for the best longterm effect. The message was that it is very hard to predict, but the best bet is to wait at least 14 months after surgery before doing any high impact execises.
What I have gathered from different sources on the net, is that cartilage from microfracture is not as tough as original cartilage and takes several years to harden and mature completely.

I know 14 months is a long time, but I have read quite a few stories on the net about people who start after 6 months with no pain and after 2-3 years they begin to feel pain again. So I am waiting until march/april before I start running.

I wish you the best of luck and my best advice is to be patient and do your exercises.

 
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I am now 6 months post op and I am doing excellent. Other than muscle and tendon soreness from lack of use, I have not had any pain. No pain like anything resembling the old injury. I was very diligent in doing my excercises and I was slow to start weight bearing.

I have not started doing any high impact sports yet and I dont intend to start any time soon. My worry is that if I begin too soon, the new cartilage will degrade and I might start to experience pain again after a few years. I asked a friend of mine, who is a physical therapist for our olympic team in Denmark. He spoke to their surgeon and specialist about how long a break from high impact sports is recommended for the best longterm effect. The message was that it is very hard to predict, but the best bet is to wait at least 14 months after surgery before doing any high impact execises.
What I have gathered from different sources on the net, is that cartilage from microfracture is not as tough as original cartilage and takes several years to harden and mature completely.

I know 14 months is a long time, but I have read quite a few stories on the net about people who start after 6 months with no pain and after 2-3 years they begin to feel pain again. So I am waiting until march/april before I start running.

I wish you the best of luck and my best advice is to be patient and do your exercises.

 
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Thank you for the encouragement! I am happy to hear you are both doing well. I just returned from a canoe trip and am now supposed to be full wt bearing but am using my crutches for walking any distance. My entire foot hurts when I walk including the joint so I still have a major limp. I am trying to be patient and reserve judgement about whether it was a success. I know much of the pain especially in my forefoot is from weakness and am also having some plantar fascitis. It is good to know that others have taken time to improve and have had pain initially with weight bearing. I am trying to remain hopeful and enjoy my summer!

 
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Hi all,

Just to give everyone an update and to check your progress.

I am 7 months post OP now and just returned from 3 weeks intense rehab course run by the RAF. The course was excellent, the kind of treatment you would receive from a pro football club with a physio and instructor at my every call. I can now run pain free and have passed my military fitness test, my only concern now is that the doctor advsied me that due to the severity of my injury, later in life i will have arthritus and require a walking stick. To this end, the last few days i have been having a slight dull ache in my ankle at the end of the day, does anyone else experience this?

I have come to terms with the fact i will never risk playing football again and i have taken up golf. I will not go back to the doctor until the year point of operation (Feb 12). Do you think this ache will disapear?

Many thanks

 
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Hi all,



Just to give everyone an update and to check your progress.



I am 7 months post OP now and just returned from 3 weeks intense rehab
course run by the RAF. The course was excellent, the kind of treatment
you would receive from a pro football club with a physio and instructor
at my every call. I can now run pain free and have passed my military
fitness test, my only concern now is that the doctor advsied me that due
to the severity of my injury, later in life i will have arthritus and
require a walking stick. To this end, the last few days i have been
having a slight dull ache in my ankle at the end of the day, does anyone
else experience this?



I have come to terms with the fact i will never risk playing football
again and i have taken up golf. I will not go back to the doctor until
the year point of operation (Feb 12). Do you think this ache will
disapear?



Many thanks

 
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Re: Ankle Microfracture, talus dome

Thanks for starting the thread, I am 2 weeks post op from talus dome microfracture and abrasion chondroplasty. I had a large OCD from an injury years ago, I could barely walk some days.

It was great to find this site to read about others who have gone through this treatment. The feedback is reassuring and it also helps to pass the time from NWB.

Get... I can't answer your latest concern, but it seems you have progressed well. Thanks for updating and continued good progress!

 
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Re: Ankle Microfracture, talus dome

I too am glad to find this thread resurrected!

I have a suspected talus dome fracture (ongoing pain since sprain 4 months ago and have not been able to return to any activity besides cycling, not even swimming, since).

I am waiting for an MRI (Jan. 2012) to confirm our suspicions and see if I require surgery. If I do, my guess is I would be receiving micro fracture. It is nice to get the updates from people right after surgery and along the recovery process. I know everyone's experience is different, but it is still great to read about it.

BadAnkle, please keep posting about your experience. How big was your lesion? Where on the talus was it? How did you injure it or discover that the injury was there? Has your surgeon said anything to you in regards to what sorts of activities you can return to in the long run? My biggest fear is that I won't be able to dance, run, or play volleyball again - 3 of my most favourite things!

Thanks in advance for posting your feedback and experience!!

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