It appears you have not yet Signed Up with our community. To Sign Up for free, please click here....



Foot & Ankle Problems Message Board
Post New Thread   Closed Thread
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 08-13-2011, 04:33 PM   #1
Junior Member
(female)
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Echo Park, CA
Posts: 12
seashellsue HB User
info on various morton's neuroma treatments

Hey there
I've been reading here and around about the various MN treatments
I'd love to hear people's experiences with or thoughts about ...

Alcohol injections. (Do they hurt? How long?)
Foot restore
Ultra sound therapy.
That teflon like wrap that goes around the nerve.
A pedorthist who checks out how your gait impacts the nerve while you walk.
Sole Supports
EDIN -Endoscopic morton's neuroma surgery. (same as decompression?)
Nerve Fix by natural care(-a homeopathic treatment).
Those Vibram five fingers shoes. Or any shoes.
Acupuncture.
Theta Orthotics (or any custom system-tried the pads).
Prolo Therapy.
Radio Frequency Ablation.
Massage/ PT.
anti-inflamatory herbs like tumeric or ginger root.
...Or whatever you got.

I'm in L.A. out on worker's comp checking out possibilities. It seems I probably have a stump (-15 years after having the nerve removed). I really hope to avoid the part where I'm laid up for a while...
Thanks

 
Old 08-14-2011, 08:52 AM   #2
Facilitator
(female)
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Birmingham, AL
Posts: 14,362
Titchou HB UserTitchou HB UserTitchou HB UserTitchou HB UserTitchou HB UserTitchou HB UserTitchou HB UserTitchou HB UserTitchou HB UserTitchou HB UserTitchou HB User
Re: info on various morton's neuroma treatments

The teflon wrap...this is used in many conditions where the nerve ending is rubbed raw, so to speak. My sister had Trigeminal Neuralgia. The surgery for this is vascular decompression where the nerves are separated from the ganglia and the trigemnal nerve is wrapped in a teflon like material to keep it from rubbing on the surrounding tissue. It works very well.

At one point I had a ganglion cyst come up right over where the neuroma had been removed and the nerve ending buried in the muscle. After that healed (by wrapping), I had a stress fracture in the 4th met right next to the same site! Ugh! Once that healed, I began to experience some intermittant pain located where the ending had been buried. So back to the original surgeon who indicated that it had evidently been shifted by all problems in the area. So we tried orthotics (a pad underneath the area to separate things) and it worked perfectly. No more pad and I no more pain. The next step would have been to go in and wrap it in teflon like material. So yes, that is a very effective treatment for many issues.

 
Sponsors Lightbulb
   
Old 08-14-2011, 12:01 PM   #3
Veteran
(female)
 
Dancinboots's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Michigan
Posts: 451
Dancinboots HB UserDancinboots HB UserDancinboots HB UserDancinboots HB User
Re: info on various morton's neuroma treatments

Please tell me about the teflon wrap that goes around the nerve. Do you just wrap it around your foot? I would like to try it for the chronic nerve problem I have been having following Neuroma Surgery over 3 years ago. I would also like to hear peoples experiences and what may have worked for them.

Everything you listed is very interesting. I have tried a few on the list..acupuncture, alcohol injections, ultra sound therapy, and sorry to say none of them helped me. I would like to try the teflon wrap. I am also going to read up on some of the other suggestions you listed.

Thanks

Last edited by Dancinboots; 08-14-2011 at 12:02 PM.

 
Old 08-14-2011, 01:37 PM   #4
Facilitator
(female)
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Birmingham, AL
Posts: 14,362
Titchou HB UserTitchou HB UserTitchou HB UserTitchou HB UserTitchou HB UserTitchou HB UserTitchou HB UserTitchou HB UserTitchou HB UserTitchou HB UserTitchou HB User
Re: info on various morton's neuroma treatments

No, they go in surgically and actually wrap the nerve ending/bare spot in the teflon type material. And it has to be done from the bottom when done for a neuroma issue.

The problem generally is that something has rubbed and therefore irritated the nerve to the point that it is bare - like an electrical wire. So the wrap covers the bare spot and keeps it from rubbing against anything and thereby hurting.

 
Old 08-14-2011, 01:46 PM   #5
Junior Member
(female)
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Echo Park, CA
Posts: 12
seashellsue HB User
Re: info on various morton's neuroma treatments

[QUOTE=Dancinboots;4822622]Please tell me about the teflon wrap that goes around the nerve. Do you just wrap it around your foot? I would like to try it for the chronic nerve problem I have been having following Neuroma Surgery over 3 years ago. I would also like to hear peoples experiences and what may have worked for them.

Everything you listed is very interesting. I have tried a few on the list..acupuncture, alcohol injections, ultra sound therapy, and sorry to say none of them helped me. I would like to try the teflon wrap. I am also going to read up on some of the other suggestions you listed.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

Hey DB
What did you experience with the alcohol injections? Pain? Unable to walk? how long? How about the acupuncture and ultra sound?
So it looks like you never got the cryo-? I'm curious.

Anyone with info or experience, C'mon, let's hear it.

Here's all I have, so far...
Besides the neurectomy(SP?) which lasted 15 years, but since developing a stump, I've gotten some relief from sketchers shape-ups in wide width. (I mentioned them in another post, sorry.) I can only wear those and platform (thick foam) flip-flops. They at least minimize the pain for a while. The sketchers give me cramps in my calves, which is less pain the MN! I started taking an extra potassium magnesium calcium supplement for that. I'm off work and not walking enough to tell if it's helping.
I hear some of the shoe websites and certain department stores have good return policies so you can try them out for a time. I'm looking into MBT's policy. They seem to have some- relatively- cute styles. Apparently wearing the cute ones, even though they didn't come in wide, and working on my feet for so many years has taken it's toll!
I'm looking forward to everyone's thoughts.
Thanks,
Sue

 
Old 08-14-2011, 02:02 PM   #6
Junior Member
(female)
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Echo Park, CA
Posts: 12
seashellsue HB User
Re: info on various morton's neuroma treatments

[QUOTE=Titchou;4822670]No, they go in surgically and actually wrap the nerve ending/bare spot in the teflon type material. And it has to be done from the bottom when done for a neuroma issue.

The problem generally is that something has rubbed and therefore irritated the nerve to the point that it is bare - like an electrical wire. So the wrap covers the bare spot and keeps it from rubbing against anything and thereby hurting.[/QUOTE]

Interesting, thanks.
That's definitely on my list for possible treatments-after I've exhausted the non surgery options. I'm hoping one will do the trick.
I've got another couple of weeks before my appointment to gather as much info as I can. Then I'll have to see what's even covered on my workers comp...(!)
Sue

 
Old 08-14-2011, 03:27 PM   #7
Veteran
(female)
 
Dancinboots's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Michigan
Posts: 451
Dancinboots HB UserDancinboots HB UserDancinboots HB UserDancinboots HB User
Re: info on various morton's neuroma treatments

Titchou

Maybe that's what I have... an irritated bare nerve. No one has ever told me anything like that, but it could be. How would I know and what type of doc would be able to diagnose something like that? Thanks for enlightning me about it. Would you be apt to perhaps have something like that following a neuroma surgery? Do you have any idea what would cause an electrical shock feeling in the ball of foot occasionally? Perhaps the nerve endings are misfiring.

Thanks

 
Old 08-14-2011, 03:40 PM   #8
Veteran
(female)
 
Dancinboots's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Michigan
Posts: 451
Dancinboots HB UserDancinboots HB UserDancinboots HB UserDancinboots HB User
Re: info on various morton's neuroma treatments

Sue

I had two series of 4-5 sclerosing injections a few years ago before my surgery. They numb the area before doing the injections so I didn't feel it. My foot was numb for a few hours after, but that was about it. The idea was to kill the nerve, but it did not help me at all. No problem walking after the injections.

The same with the acupuncture. I had about 5 acupuncture treatments that did nothing for my nerve problem in the foot. That doesn't mean it wouldn't work for you. I had the treatment after my surgery. If I would have went there before surgery, perhaps it may have helped. Acupuncture does not hurt at all. All you might feel is a tiny pick of the needles when they are inserted. People get relief from many ailments from acupuncture...just not what I am dealing with. I will try anything, even holistic procedures. Whose to say they can't help you. At least they don't pump you up with drugs that sometimes cause worse problems.

Sharon

 
Old 08-14-2011, 04:10 PM   #9
Facilitator
(female)
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Birmingham, AL
Posts: 14,362
Titchou HB UserTitchou HB UserTitchou HB UserTitchou HB UserTitchou HB UserTitchou HB UserTitchou HB UserTitchou HB UserTitchou HB UserTitchou HB UserTitchou HB User
Re: info on various morton's neuroma treatments

Sue: the teflon wrap - as I understand from my ortho - is not for first time surgeries. The first surgery removes the neuroma and then they tuck the nerve ending in the tissue further up the foot to keep it from rubbing against anything. In my case, the cyst and the fracture shifted it just enough to start causing some small issues that had not been there before. The orthotics luckily shifted it back and now it's fine. But my sister had TN and had the vascular decompression surgery so I know full well that the teflon wrap thing works great! If it would work on her brain, I would have no problem going that route if need be.

Dancin: I just went to my regular sports med ortho who did my surgeries. The practice I go to has a lot of famous athletes come thru so I know they are up on the latest procedures....and are very innovative....it definitely sounds like a nerve issue....hope you find relief....

 
Old 08-18-2011, 08:49 AM   #10
Junior Member
(female)
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Echo Park, CA
Posts: 12
seashellsue HB User
Re: info on various morton's neuroma treatments

Hey Tichou,
What kind of orthotic did you use? Do you have a rundown on the different approaches? The metatarsal pads stopped being effective for me and I've been reading about ones that redistribute weight and redirect the angle your foot lands as you step. Since this is my third go round it's making sense that something like the way I step could continue to be the problem. Especially given that different shoes have changed the way I step have helped.

They aren't cheap, so any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
Dancinboots have you tried these?
Thanks

 
Old 08-18-2011, 08:57 AM   #11
Facilitator
(female)
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Birmingham, AL
Posts: 14,362
Titchou HB UserTitchou HB UserTitchou HB UserTitchou HB UserTitchou HB UserTitchou HB UserTitchou HB UserTitchou HB UserTitchou HB UserTitchou HB UserTitchou HB User
Re: info on various morton's neuroma treatments

It was just one that I bouught from a local orthotics place. The doctor gave me one to start with. It is blue and egg shaped. Went in the shoe (and you need one for every shoe) just slightly under where the problem area of the foot goes. They put one in a couple of my shoes to show me where and how to do it. Then I went and bought a bag of others - found them online as well - and just put them in as needed. Guess I should give them away as aI have a bunch left!

 
Old 08-18-2011, 09:37 AM   #12
Junior Member
(female)
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Echo Park, CA
Posts: 12
seashellsue HB User
Re: info on various morton's neuroma treatments

Thanks
Those sound like the same as the ones I tried already- called metatarsal pads. They did help, but only for a while. The ad I saw online for these other ones fit up around the sides of your foot to re angle how you step. That supposedly makes you step differently, redistributing your weight off the pressure points.
They don't sound too pretty, but I gotta work.

I plan to see if these are covered on my workers comp deal when I finally see their doctor. Otherwise i'll just get them myself and report back incase anyone else might benefit.

 
Old 08-18-2011, 04:23 PM   #13
Facilitator
(female)
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Birmingham, AL
Posts: 14,362
Titchou HB UserTitchou HB UserTitchou HB UserTitchou HB UserTitchou HB UserTitchou HB UserTitchou HB UserTitchou HB UserTitchou HB UserTitchou HB UserTitchou HB User
Re: info on various morton's neuroma treatments

I didn't need something permanent. If this hadn't moved things back like they belonged then surgery was the only option. Sorry but I'm not giving up my heels and dancing and jogging! I know, I'm a glutton for punishment but they can always fix whatever I mess up till I just can't go any more! Am 65 and don'tplan to slow down!

 
Old 08-19-2011, 11:21 AM   #14
Junior Member
(female)
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Wayne,PA,USA
Posts: 38
Sisterwayne HB UserSisterwayne HB User
Re: info on various morton's neuroma treatments

[QUOTE=seashellsue;4822189]Hey there
I've been reading here and around about the various MN treatments
I'd love to hear people's experiences with or thoughts about ...

Alcohol injections. (Do they hurt? How long?)
Foot restore
Ultra sound therapy.
That teflon like wrap that goes around the nerve.
A pedorthist who checks out how your gait impacts the nerve while you walk.
Sole Supports
EDIN -Endoscopic morton's neuroma surgery. (same as decompression?)
Nerve Fix by natural care(-a homeopathic treatment).
Those Vibram five fingers shoes. Or any shoes.
Acupuncture.
Theta Orthotics (or any custom system-tried the pads).
Prolo Therapy.
Radio Frequency Ablation.
Massage/ PT.
anti-inflamatory herbs like tumeric or ginger root.
...Or whatever you got.

I'm in L.A. out on worker's comp checking out possibilities. It seems I probably have a stump (-15 years after having the nerve removed). I really hope to avoid the part where I'm laid up for a while...
Thanks[/QUOTE]

Very sorry to hear you have the stump neuroma. So I tried almost all of these alternative therapies for more than 2 years. Forget them!! Alcohol injections are painful, especially the radiating nerve pain you get for 24 hours after each shot. I just had my neuroma surgery this Tuesday and I am convinced that surgery is the only real solution to this horrible problem. Just make sure you have a orthopedic foot/ankle surgical specialist do it. Forget the podiatrists. Especially in your case where 15 years later you now have this complication. Find the most experienced orthopedic surgeon you can and get it done. I'm just sorry I waited so long before I had my surgery. Anything else was just a total waste of time and money.

Hope you feel better soon.

 
Old 08-19-2011, 12:49 PM   #15
Facilitator
(female)
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Birmingham, AL
Posts: 14,362
Titchou HB UserTitchou HB UserTitchou HB UserTitchou HB UserTitchou HB UserTitchou HB UserTitchou HB UserTitchou HB UserTitchou HB UserTitchou HB UserTitchou HB User
Re: info on various morton's neuroma treatments

Sisterwayne: My thoughts exactly.

 
Closed Thread

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Board Replies Last Post
anyone know success stats on morton's neuroma treatments? seashellsue Foot & Ankle Problems 11 09-15-2012 08:46 PM
Is this toe pain really Morton's neuroma? rmillstein Foot & Ankle Problems 11 08-29-2010 02:40 PM
Worse feeling after Morton's Neuroma Surgery Dancinboots Foot & Ankle Problems 124 07-19-2010 04:01 AM
Morton's Neuroma ... Help BrianPK Foot & Ankle Problems 32 10-12-2009 03:18 PM
Morton's neuroma - need good dr. please! forefootpain Foot & Ankle Problems 0 06-28-2009 03:51 PM




Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is Off
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




Join Our Newsletter

Stay healthy through tips curated by our health experts.

Whoops,

There was a problem adding your email Try again

Thank You

Your email has been added








TOP THANKED CONTRIBUTORS



roxygirl1 (187), Zerk (136), Titchou (122), Missyluke (121), Hollywood48 (117), ginger62 (98), LadyKanner (97), LisaBdot (83), AdkLizard46 (55), janewhite1 (52)

Site Wide Totals

teteri66 (1136), MSJayhawk (941), Apollo123 (855), janewhite1 (823), Titchou (769), Gabriel (743), ladybud (667), sammy64 (666), midwest1 (654), BlueSkies14 (610)



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 08:59 PM.



Site owned and operated by HealthBoards.com™
Copyright and Terms of Use © 1998-2014 HealthBoards.comô All rights reserved.
Do not copy or redistribute in any form!