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Old 04-07-2007, 12:16 AM   #1
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Gall bladder issues and anxiety.

Hello everybody. Maybe you can help me.

Last summer I started having anxiety issues, and sickness and nausea, and my doc found out that I have a twisted gall bladder (or something like that) wich causes my sickness/nausea.

Now I KNOW my anxiety is also related to my gall problems, but I dont know what the hell to do about it. From what I read in these threads, removal of the gall bladder wouldnt be a smart thing. Help!

This is what I found on the net concerning anxiety and gall problems.
[url]http://www.gsu.edu/2201.html[/url]

It says that anxiety can cause gall blader problems, however, in acupuncture literature they say gall blader causes anxiety, so wich one is it ?

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Old 04-07-2007, 12:45 AM   #2
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Re: Gall bladder issues and anxiety.

nick,
I think you need to have your gallbladder tested using a HIDA scan that tests how well the gallbladder is functioning.
It is a reliable test.

If it is not empting well then it should be removed. It is not an anxiety or stress related problems.
A not functioning GB is extremely serious and can become infected and is life threatening.

I hope you can get the tests in Romania.

God Bless ---Harry

 
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Old 04-07-2007, 07:57 AM   #3
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Re: Gall bladder issues and anxiety.

Nick666 -- I never had acid reflux or heartburn, etc., but was constantly having chest (heart) pains in the upper left chest area. (all heart tests were fine). To make a long story short, I had the HIDA scan which showed my gallbladder was only functioning at 7% (barely functioning at all).

When the Surgeon removed my gallbladder he said it was "twisted". That was the first time I had ever heard of a twisted gallbladder. It took about 3 weeks after the surgery for me to get over the nausea -- the nausea started with the HIDA scan. But, I do not regret having my gallbladder out. Nausea is gone. I eat what I want. I'm having no problems at all. All I know is I had reached a point I lost about 25 pounds, because I just could not eat -- I presume from the twisted gallbladder. I'm back to eating now, and my appetite has returned too much so.

 
Old 04-07-2007, 07:59 AM   #4
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Re: Gall bladder issues and anxiety.

Nick666 -- one other thing, my primary doctor did also put me on an anxiety medication -- Klonopin. But I only have to take 1/2 tablet a day. I had extreme anxiety, but believe it was because I had been sick for so long before someone discovered I had a "twisted" gallbladder. But the anxiety medication also has helped. I feel like a new person, or back to my self before I got sick. This had gone on for about 7 months before it was discovered.

 
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Re: Gall bladder issues and anxiety.

Do you still have to take the drugs to feel allright Ladybiker?

Why is it that when my anxiety levels rise, I start to have symptoms related to my gallblader ? (and sometimes vice-versa, even I dont know wich starts first)

Harry, read the url I provided in my first post. I think there`s a definite scientific link between anxiety and gall bladder, even chinese acupuncture says it (well... their explication aint exactly scientific...)

Maybe it has something to do with serotonine levels, just like in the case of Irritable Bowel Syndrome and anxiety/depression. (these 2 are connected)

Anyway, I`m confused now, you`re saying I should get the surgery. Maybe I should do that HIDA scan... (H.I.D.A. What does it stand for?)

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Old 04-07-2007, 05:02 PM   #6
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Re: Gall bladder issues and anxiety.

nick666, HIDA stands for hydroxy iminodiacetic acid. That is the stuff they inject into your arm during the scan to see if your gall bladder is functioning properly. Cholescintigraphy is another name for the HIDA scan. Another common test performed to determine gall bladder health is the ultrasound.

You say that your doc discovered you had a 'twisted' gall bladder. How did he come to that conclusion? What tests did he perform on you?

 
Old 04-07-2007, 10:04 PM   #7
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Re: Gall bladder issues and anxiety.

He performed an ultra-sound ecography (I think it works with ultra-sounds) and he also checked other organs like the kidneys, liver etc.

He didnt looked worried about it, he just said that I should avoid some foods and thats it.

Oh, and he didnt said I have any sediments there, but that was last summer.

And it seems that we do have HIDA scan here in Romania.

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Re: Gall bladder issues and anxiety.

nick,

I read the report but it was about fish and their stress levels -- I didn't know fish had gallbladders. It was a 3 year old study-- with possible future results.

As you may know the Gallbladder's function is to hold bile salts, bilirubin and cholesterol and toxins -- primary until needed to digest fats. If it does not function properly for any reason-- it can cause you to be sick.

The best way I know of testing your GB function is a HIDA scan. You can do a search and find out how the test is done and what results you can expect.

 
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Re: Gall bladder issues and anxiety.

Nick666 -- I went without the klonopin yesterday and today, so no, I don't think I have to take it. I do still have the stomach infection (H Pylori), so now am on antibiotics (again). Then I will be retested about 6 weeks after I finish taking the antibiotics. As far as the gallbladder removal, no, I don't believe there is any medication I have to take now, but I am taking Zoloft (which is an antidepressant). I had been feeling so bad for so long, and had been through so many medical tests, that I had just reached an all time low. I'm feeling great now. Eating good. (antibiotics make me a little nauseaus), but I'm doing good. So basically I take one Zoloft a day, along with the new antibiotics for the stomach infection. That is all I'm taking. I do not like taking Prevacid or anything. I don't have heartburn or acid reflux. But the doctor said I had to take it while on the antibiotics to help clear up the stomach infection. Once I complete the antibiotics (10 days) I do not plan on taking Prevacid either. Not sure if I answered your question?

 
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Re: Gall bladder issues and anxiety.

Nick666 -- one other thing, I don't believe anxiety has anything to do with your gallbladder, especially if it is twisted. I had not heard of that before until I had mine removed. In the HIDA scan they did not say my gallbladder was twisted, but only functioning at 7%. It was the surgeon that discovered it was twisted. I'm not a doctor of course, but if your gallbladder is truly twisted, then I believe that is what is causing the nausea and of course anxiety. I had reached a point I could not eat anything. Just looking at food made me sick. But now that I know my gallbladder was twisted I'm sure that was why I could not eat and felt so sick. I do not regret the gallbladder removal at all. It was the fear of not knowing what was wrong that caused my extreme anxiety.

 
Old 04-19-2007, 09:43 AM   #11
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Re: Gall bladder issues and anxiety.

Nick I had my gallbladder out in 1993 because of 13 stones in it and it was the best thing I ever did. The pain was terrible when I would pass the stone and it was almost everyday until I had the surgery.

Why does the surgery bother you? Is it because of not having the gallbladder or the surgery itself?

The surgery was fine 2 hours and it was gone. Laproscopic, 4 little incisions, no stiches, healed in a couple of days.

I also have very bad anxiety and am on ativan but that came after the gallbladder was out. Anxiety and panic attacks run in my family.

 
Old 04-19-2007, 11:08 AM   #12
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Re: Gall bladder issues and anxiety.

I also suggest having the HIDA scan before you make a decision to have it out. That will really tell you whether it's functioning or not.

My problems atrted 2 years ago and when I went to the dr's for headaches, upset stomach, mild stomach aches, feeling like I couldn't catch my breath and dizziness. My dr automatically assumed I have having anxiety attacks. He gave me valium, which I didn't take. I joined a gym and started feeling better. That only lasted about 3 months before my symptoms were bothering me again. This happened on and off for almost a year. They have been more severe and constant since December. A few weeks ago I found out from a hepatabiliary scan (I think it's the same as the HIDA scan) that my gall bladder was only functioning at 16%. The ultrasound and bloodwork were totalyl normal. I was beginning to think it was all in my head until I found out the results. My dr referred me to a surgeon and I'm scheduled to have my gal bladder taken out in 3 weeks.

From reading things on here, I see a lot of people with gall bladder problems and anxiety or anxiety related symptoms.

 
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Re: Gall bladder issues and anxiety.

Yeah that`s weird.

 
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Re: Gall bladder issues and anxiety.

I have anxiety problems as well, and get stressed really easily, but I have had so many health problems in the last 2 years, that I think it is just that. They didn't know for so long what was going on, and discovered many things. But they never did figure out the stomach issues, and everything until about a month ago when my primary care doctor told me to ask my gastroenterologist about having the HIDA. I had the HIDA, and it showed my gallbladder functioning at 9.5%. I actually did not have any stones or sludge when they took it out 2 1/2 weeks ago. For about two weeks I was still having lots fo problems, but after going to the doctor on Tuesday, I have gotten most of them taken care of, and feel so much better now that it is out!!

 
Old 04-22-2007, 08:14 PM   #15
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Re: Gall bladder issues and anxiety.

I am in the same boat.

Amazing what has been happening to me in last 6 months. Everything started 7 mnths ago with chest pains. Did a chest x-ray and ct scan and they say some scar on my lungs which freaked me out so much that I almost lost my mind. Panic attack after panic attack.
My sleep was completely screwed. Things did get better with Clonazepam.
My wife could not recognize me - she said I never wanted to see doctor and now suddenly I am so anxious and obsessed with my health. Anything I feel in my body produces a wave of worries. Even when there are no chest pains, I am wondering when it will hit me again – it is weird, but was outside of my control at the time,

Anyway, they finally found an inflamed esophagus – so GERD is diagnosis. With PPIs things did get better, but not completely good. Then they found gallbladder issues: gallstones, polyp, and HIDA scan showing 30% ejection rate – I am sure another GI specialist and surgeon will make recommendation to remove gallbladder which I will decide to go for it most likely.

So, my example may be the case of link between somewhere between gallbladder – brain -- anxiety …

 
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