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Old 06-27-2010, 03:16 PM   #1
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Unhappy Burning Stomach & Bloated Feelings



i have had this burning type feeling between my belly button to the center od my ribs just below my breasts and it feels like a really bad burning feeling and a bloated feeling if i eat it feels like my food hasnt digestied and it is just sitting there and this can last all day and sometimes i will burp and the pain can sometimes go down but the burning can get really sore and travel upto my throat i dont sleep anymore as the pain gets that bad and i really dont eat i have lost a lot of weight because i wont eat i have been the er and had a xray, ecg, blood test and all came bk clear nothing wrong my doctor has just gave me gavison and omperzole but this feeling aint going ??
any advice x

 
Old 06-27-2010, 03:36 PM   #2
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Hey I really sympathise )0; for you - Here it is pretty much the same as me - but after an endoscopy that I had last week - Pain same as yours before but worse now. Maybe you should get a test for HPylori - that causes the pain you are describing - The doctor can do a blood test for that - you may also have gallstones - that gives pain you are describing. If things don't settle down do get back to the doctor - maybe send you for an ultrasound first. I'm sick of stomach issues - 7 months to date - its all I talk about - we all need an answer - I hope you get yours soon Karen

 
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Old 06-27-2010, 03:45 PM   #3
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Sorry - I meant to say I also have had many a trip to the A&E - all clear - most things come back as clear and your left feeling a fraud -I am not eating to good either and lost weight - The outcome of my endoscopy was stomach polyps - they got biosied and I hope to get the results next week - Iv read up on them and hope they come back as clear! After reading so much on these messgae boards it shows that so many people have stomach problems - it sometimes helps to read through many and gets some information and helpful hints - I am 101% frustrated with the pain - not sleeping and having to go to work etc - I hope you do get to the doctors soon - NO PPI'S WORK FOR ME - (ANTACIDS) either

 
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Sorry to hear about your pain.

Good luck and I wish you well.

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Old 06-27-2010, 04:25 PM   #5
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i haven't been checked for HPylori but i did ask my doctor and she said that i wont have that as i dont have diarrhea??? but i read up on it and that is only one of the symptons so the doctors just turned me away i am so sick of this feeling i also suffer with really bad anxiety and having this stomach issues is making my anxiety worse i just feel like crying 24/7

gorgot to ask does this burning stomach make you feel bloated and have nausea feelings??

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Old 06-27-2010, 04:38 PM   #6
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D - When I had HPylori two years ago I didn't have diarrhea either! It's a simple test and they should test you for it if your symtoms are not being relieved by the medication you have been given - HPylori is so common - Insist on the blood test!
I have health anxiety and being stuck in this constant pain makes everything worse - and your mind works overtime on your pains - it's a vicious circle when you suffer from anxiety - I cry everyday and I'm sick crying - it's not easy putting on a 'face' The receptionist at the doctors surgery always says to me 'you won't get any sympathy looking so well!!!' If it's not got a plaser on it then we are fine - as we look fine!!!! Frustrating so it is. Thinking of you, Karen

 
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nausea feeling most of the time

 
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D - When I had HPylori two years ago I didn't have diarrhea either! It's a simple test and they should test you for it if your symtoms are not being relieved by the medication you have been given - HPylori is so common - Insist on the blood test!
I have health anxiety and being stuck in this constant pain makes everything worse - and your mind works overtime on your pains - it's a vicious circle when you suffer from anxiety - I cry everyday and I'm sick crying - it's not easy putting on a 'face' The receptionist at the doctors surgery always says to me 'you won't get any sympathy looking so well!!!' If it's not got a plaser on it then we are fine - as we look fine!!!! Frustrating so it is. Thinking of you, Karen
thanks.
i will defo be going bk the docors.. thats what i say if we dont have a plaster on were fine lol its just fustrating bein in this pain 24/7 and docs just giving me gavison etc.. it aint helping the pain so really think they wud of given me more and my anxiety just getting worse with it x

 
Old 07-03-2010, 12:29 PM   #9
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How are you?.....

I had my follow up app on Tuesday with the surgoen - I was diagnoised with

Gastrointestinal Disease: Visceral Hypersensitivity. It is weird as all along I knew there was something wrong but doctors kept saying stress etc...

I found this interview online about it and how it affect the stomach etc - have a read - It may help?....Karen

Gastrointestinal Disease: Visceral Hypersensitivity---------------------

Gastrointestinal Disease: Visceral Hypersensitivity
Transcript:

Guest: Dr. Mark DeLegge Ė Gastroenterology-Hepatology

Host: Dr. Linda Austin Ė Psychiatry


Dr. Linda Austin: I am Dr. Linda Austin. I am interviewing Dr. Mark DeLegge who is Director of the Medical University of South Carolinaís Digestive Disease Center. Dr. DeLegge, letís talk about a very interesting syndrome, visceral hypersensitivity. Just what is that?


Dr. Mark DeLegge: Visceral hypersensitivity is really a disease that masquerades as a lot of other diseases. It is one of the most common problems I see here as a referral from another gastroenterologist, or from another state. What you and I would say is abdominal pain or, perhaps, abdominal pressure, even nausea, where there is no definite diagnosis, meaning, these patients have had upper endoscopies, colonoscopies, CAT scans, which is basically an x-ray of your belly button looking very closely at all the structures. They may have had something called a gastric emptying scan. That is where you swallow an egg or some toast labeled with a radionucleotide and they basically look to see how fast it empties out of your stomach under a big camera. They may have actually had the blood vessels around their stomach and small intestine investigated to see if there was a problem with lack of blood flow that was giving the pain in their belly. It is not uncommon, in fact, for me to see people who have had their gallbladders removed, or their appendix removed, thinking this was the cause of the pain, when, in fact, they felt great for about two days and the same symptoms recurred. This is visceral hypersensitivity.


Dr. Linda Austin: Now, is it accompanied by bleeding or gas or other sorts of symptoms like that?


Dr. Mark DeLegge: Bleeding, no, weight loss, no, although some people may lose weight just because they are so miserable. Abdominal gas and swelling can occur but does not have to occur. So, when you and I start talking about a disease that we have heard a lot about, irritable bowel syndrome or what used to be called spastic bowel, your nervous gut, we talk about people getting alternating diarrhea and constipation or one or the other, maybe some bloating, abdominal pain, that is kind of your classic IBS patient. This visceral hypersensitivity disease, or syndrome, really is on the end of the bell curve for the patient with IBS. What I mean by that is, yeah, they can have some IBS-like symptoms but, frankly, their problems are really focused on pressure, pain, nausea.


Dr. Linda Austin: So, what sorts of things, then, trigger the pain? Is it after a meal, or is it if they are wearing tight clothes, or touch their abdomen? What causes the pain?


Dr. Mark DeLegge: Some people will have triggers such as eating, which can precipitate that. Other people will have triggers such as stress. But, typically there is no rhyme or reason to when the symptoms come and when the symptoms leave. The pathophysiology of why this happens is very interesting. What happens in the patients with visceral hypersensitivity is the nerves that surround the intestines, the stomach and the esophagus, those nerves are set up to basically feel things that are bad, to feel pain. But, in the patient with visceral hypersensitivity, those nerves start to sense things that are normal, meaning, normal muscle contractions in the small intestine, normal muscle contractions in the colon to move food and stool through, normal amounts of air in the intestines start to be interpreted by the nerves surrounding the gut as extreme pain, so, there is a disconnect. The nerves become almost too sensitive and send a message up to your brain and say, you are having pain.


What happens is, you present to a physician, perhaps a gastroenterologist, and you have a battery of exams. Everything is absolutely normal and invariably you are told, we cannot find it, or, this is in your head, or, perhaps, this is something related to stress in your life and if you would just be a little less stressed out about everything, this would all go away.


Dr. Linda Austin: It occurs to me, it is almost like having a headache in a sense, that is, unexplained pain that comes on without a clear cause. Is there an analogy to be drawn?


Dr. Mark DeLegge: It is very similar. If we look at the headache population and you try to divvy them up into little groups like migraines, cluster headaches, muscle tension headaches, there is a proportion of patients you cannot get into any little box. We like boxes, as doctors, so we can say, you have this. But, it is a very similar process. This visceral hypersensitivity, if you can imagine, is just having heightened nerves surrounding the gut that are responding to what you should not be feeling, or discomforted by, as being real, and it is real.


Dr. Linda Austin: Is there treatment?


Dr. Mark DeLegge: The treatments are very difficult. I will tell you that the work in this area has not been great. However, there are some treatments which we have recently looked at which seem to be somewhat beneficial. Number one, there is a very old group of anti-depressants, one of them has the name of amitriptyline, or one of them is desipramine. What we found out is that, in very low doses, especially with desipramine, not at the doses we used to use for depression, but much smaller doses, there seems to be a great affect on blunting the response by these receptors of pain, meaning, to tone them down. So, yes, there is some work in this area which is starting to look at some of the neural, or neurally mediated, meaning, drugs that we used to use for the brain. We thought we were treating depression, which we were, or some other problem and realizing that there is a lot of cross talk between the brain and the gut. In fact, these medications may have an affect on the gut itself.


Dr. Linda Austin: Do patients who have visceral hypersensitivity tend, also, to have other pain syndromes, such as fibromyalgia, or, for that matter, even headaches?


Dr. Mark DeLegge: Yes, absolutely. If you look at the group, we will say, fibromyalgia and, in fact, if you and I walked out the door and talked to 10 doctors and said, what do you think about fibromyalgia? Most of them would say, boy, that is a difficult patient population, Iím not sure what I am treating, the treatments have not been very good, I do not know how to make the diagnosis. In fact, these same symptoms that we have with visceral hypersensitivity, we can see in the patient with fibromyalgia, although the symptoms may be a little different as far as joint or muscle pain, or fatigue, or the patient with the chronic headache. I think what we are going to find is that this hypersensitivity issue, this nerve hypersensitivity issue, is much more systemic than we have given it credit for in the past.


Dr. Linda Austin: As a psychiatrist, I cannot help but ask the question, is there overlay with psychiatric issues? We know, for example, that patients who have had trauma may have abnormal activity of their stress hormones that may predispose to different body sorts of symptoms. Do you see that in this population as well?


Dr. Mark DeLegge: Yes, you do. I do not want to go on record to think that everybody who has visceral hypersensitivity has a psychiatric disease because that is not true. But, I will tell you that patients who have visceral hypersensitivity, compared to the general population, are more likely to have other associated issues, such as anxiety, obsessive-compulsiveness and other stress-related diseases. You know, intuitively, that kind of makes sense to me because, in those populations, there is definitely a change in the hormonal production of the brain. We know that the brain and the gut are very connected. It is my belief, although very simplistic, that the production or hormone changes that occur with many psychiatric diseases can, in fact, accentuate the problems with visceral hypersensitivity.


Dr. Linda Austin: Or, maybe even to say from a slightly different point of view, it may be that just as there can be a hypersensitivity of the nerves around the gut that, perhaps, anxiety or depression may also reflect some kind of hypersensitivity, except nerves of the brain, nerves in different centers.


Dr. Mark DeLegge: That is a great thought. It opens up a whole arena for us to be investigating. I think it is time that we stop telling patients, this is all in your head, and really get down to understanding some of these more complex chronic diseases because, as you know, they can really affect a patientís quality of life and, frankly, their self esteem.


Dr. Linda Austin: Dr. DeLegge, thanks so much for talking with us.


Dr. Mark DeLegge: You are welcome.

 
Old 07-03-2010, 02:34 PM   #10
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Re: Burning Stomach & Bloated Feelings

hi this is really interesting..

i am feeling bad today been having a bad day anxiety playing up but my pmt is due and my GERD or what ever it is in my stomach is playing up i am sitting here with really abd stomach ache like am very bloated (but am not) i have been crying all day i am just feeling bad and wish it would just all go away i cant cope with this anymore am 27 and having the life or a 100 yr old well there life is most prob better than mine i just hate feeling in pain or bloated 24/7 x x x

glad your mind is now at rest we always no if there is something wrong with are selves x

 
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I'm really sorry to hear your still feeling this bad - Have you considered going to A&E - I did 3 times and got kept in - they done an ultrasound to check gallbladder and pancreas - Second time they done the endoscope - Sometimes that's what you have to do when nobody is listening - When you can't put up with it anymore then the A&E is the next step - they will also do all your bloods and a test for the HPylori - You can't go on and on in this kind of pain - no wonder anxiety rockets sky high - you just don't know what's going on and it gets you very anxious - I am an anxious wreck with this - 7 months on - I am still trying to digest what the specialist said on Tuesday..... Get back to the Doctors - try not show how anxious you are (as they say that's causing the problem and making it worse)... Say how bad things have been - you have to really be direct - I know how hard it is - I've lost count of how many doctors apps I've had since December - If that fails - the hospital will rund blood tests etc - Show then what pain your in. I truly hope things start to get better for you & me and all the people on here - Life is miserable with this. Mail me if you want a rant! Karen

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D - I meant to say on January 25th - I was diagnoised with gastritis - The pain from that was horendous!!!!! I also had dundonitis (can't spell that) These were picked up on with the endoscope - From then things just got worse and worse - I had my 2nd scope two weeks ago that showed stomach polyps - they came back negative for cancerous cells - but most are non - cancerous - My eating from Jaunary had been bland foods and I really went of eating as I wanted nothing fromt he bland diet - I never really ate for 6 weeks and lost lots of weight - The docort put me on an appitite stimulent - that helped - So many medications PPi's tried and tested - 4 of them for what they thought was GERD / REFLUX - none did a thing - It all snowballed and things got worse and worse - Then scope 2 - follow up and as I said in a previous post they said about this hypersensitivity thing - Who knows - The stomach is such a complex place - we worry and that makes the stomach worse - I'm still thinking HPylori for you - anyway it should be ruled out - I had it two years ago and was in intense pain for months then got tested and bingo!!!! See another doctor from the last one Makes me so angry! Karen

 
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I'm really sorry to hear your still feeling this bad - Have you considered going to A&E - I did 3 times and got kept in - they done an ultrasound to check gallbladder and pancreas - Second time they done the endoscope - Sometimes that's what you have to do when nobody is listening - When you can't put up with it anymore then the A&E is the next step - they will also do all your bloods and a test for the HPylori - You can't go on and on in this kind of pain - no wonder anxiety rockets sky high - you just don't know what's going on and it gets you very anxious - I am an anxious wreck with this - 7 months on - I am still trying to digest what the specialist said on Tuesday..... Get back to the Doctors - try not show how anxious you are (as they say that's causing the problem and making it worse)... Say how bad things have been - you have to really be direct - I know how hard it is - I've lost count of how many doctors apps I've had since December - If that fails - the hospital will rund blood tests etc - Show then what pain your in. I truly hope things start to get better for you & me and all the people on here - Life is miserable with this. Mail me if you want a rant! Karen


i have spent the nyt in A&E they did an ECG, Xray blood tests and nothing came bk the nurse said it could be an ulcer which will need a camera or could just be GERD or anxiety x

 
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I think you should be refered for an endoscope - If after A&E the nurse said what it could possibly be - then it needs to be ruled out?

Anxiety as we all know makes things esculate and seem worse than they are - when I get the stomach pain my mind races and I can't carry on as I get all panic'y' .... What are you going to do?...Karen

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i am making an appointment in morning for doctors to see what it can be see if he can send me for that camera down my throat just to rule it all out x

 
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