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Old 10-04-2007, 02:02 AM   #1
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Cause Behind Tightness Of Left Side Of Forehead, Head And Neck?

Since mid 2002 I've had strange symptoms where the left side of my neck, head and especially forehead consistently feels tight.

Because of the tight feeling (when it feels severe its like peanut butter has been smeared over the left side of my head) along the left side of my forehead my perception of my nose (as strange as that sounds) is fuzzy and I perceive both sides of the nose as separate and shadowy images (thats constant). The severity of my symptoms fluctuate and sometimes make me feel quite disorientated and I don't feel like I can focus on things properly and that strange perception of my nose, which I believe is a result of the tightness of my forehead above my left eye, is constant.

Between 2003 - present I've tried 2 eye specialists, hayfever specialists as well as various tablets and eye drops, a chiropractor who seemed more equipped at taking my money more than anything, and a physio. In 2003 I had a sinositus scan and in 2005 I had a Cat Scan however nothing out of the ordinary appeared on the cat scan.

I often feel a tight or uncomfortable feeling along the left side of my back (when when I have to bend over to pick something up) as well as my left shoulder and I have had treatment from a physio but that hasn't had much of an effect and he suggested a neurologist. I was wondering whether the tight/uncomfortable feeling along the left side of my back was as a result of the tightness in my left forehead and neck and strange dull feeling along the left side of my head (pain syndrome??). Also, for the last few years my left testicle has been inside my lower abdomen and I was wondering whether that could potentially be responsible for the forehead, head or neck problem or perhaps the left back issue? From time to time (especially lately) my left leg gets a tingling 'frozen' sort of feeling which I consider a bit strange.

Anyway, my main concern is the tightness of the left side of my forehead (which I'm sure could/or is related to these other issues I've mentioned) because since mid 2002 I've had this strange perception of my nose whereby I consistently see the two sides of my nose as "two separate shadowy images" which I'm sure is because of the tightness of my forehead above my left eye. The tightness along there, and the dull feeling along the left side of my head, and especially the constant shadowy image of the two sides of my nose has left me feeling extremely frustrated and depressed basically since the beginning of 2003 both because I don't know what it is, how to treat it and because I've been so stubborn about it (not to mention how long I've had it!).

So it would be great if anyone here could suggest something or advise me on what they think my problem is and whether or not some or all of these symptoms are connected? I'm basically out of ideas and the only two avenues I can think of to try are to see a neurologist (they're expensive but I made an appointment for November) and I'm thinking that maybe I should see a urologist.

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Re: Cause Behind Tightness Of Left Side Of Forehead, Head And Neck?

glad you are seeing a neuro.have you ever had an actual MRI done on your brain and at least the upper c spine?this does 'sound" nerve related in some way.what you are describing with your nose could be what are called "parasthesias".they can be just strange "feelings or sensations within a body part and can even change "preceptions' of things as to how you feel them?this happens alot when nerves become affected in some strange way.the tightness could be just plain muscle tightness from stress or tension OR it could be the result of an inflammed nerve that is actually causing that muscle to tighten up.seeing a neuo really is a good idea.they are just more familiar wih all things neuro related.but obtaining a contrasted MRI on your brain and c spine really could reveal some level of underlying trigger for all of this.i myself have c spine and spinal cord issues and this does create certain paresthesias in and around my nose too.i feel actual heat on the left side of my nose whenever i bend my head forward?really hot.also little tingles in the upper lip and back of my throat too.when the nerves become affected,there is no telling what you will actually feel.very strange tho.seeing that neuro but also obtaining the MRI with contrast(the contrast just hghlights certain areas much more clearly upon MRI)would really give you good info in the most non invasive way at this point.it should just be dome considering your symptoms.your primary can refer you for the MRI too.hopefully you can find the culprit in all of this soon.good luck and please keep me posted on just what you find out,K? FB
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Old 10-04-2007, 05:13 AM   #3
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Re: Cause Behind Tightness Of Left Side Of Forehead, Head And Neck?

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glad you are seeing a neuro.have you ever had an actual MRI done on your brain and at least the upper c spine?this does 'sound" nerve related in some way.what you are describing with your nose could be what are called "parasthesias".they can be just strange "feelings or sensations within a body part and can even change "preceptions' of things as to how you feel them?this happens alot when nerves become affected in some strange way.the tightness could be just plain muscle tightness from stress or tension OR it could be the result of an inflammed nerve that is actually causing that muscle to tighten up.seeing a neuo really is a good idea.they are just more familiar wih all things neuro related.but obtaining a contrasted MRI on your brain and c spine really could reveal some level of underlying trigger for all of this.i myself have c spine and spinal cord issues and this does create certain paresthesias in and around my nose too.i feel actual heat on the left side of my nose whenever i bend my head forward?really hot.also little tingles in the upper lip and back of my throat too.when the nerves become affected,there is no telling what you will actually feel.very strange tho.seeing that neuro but also obtaining the MRI with contrast(the contrast just hghlights certain areas much more clearly upon MRI)would really give you good info in the most non invasive way at this point.it should just be dome considering your symptoms.your primary can refer you for the MRI too.hopefully you can find the culprit in all of this soon.good luck and please keep me posted on just what you find out,K? FB
So Paresthesias centering upon the left side of my forehead, just above my left eye, could be triggering my shadowy/transparent perception of my nose? To try to make it clearer, I perceive my nose how when you shut your right eye and you can just see the left side of your nose and then when you shut your left eye you just see the right side of your nose, well I always perceive my nose as seeing both of those sides like that all the time only those two sides appear as two shadowy images to me and the left side if more pronounced because I believe what is causing that is the tight/strange feeling of the left side of my forehead.

Also, sometimes I feel in a certain area of my left forehead that the skin seems to just 'twitch' or a small part of a forehead feels like it moves very suddenly while that area of the forehead feels quite tight and kinda... spongy (is that the right word..? lol.)? Also, I mentioned earlier how the left side of my head consistently has a dull/fuzzy sort of feeling well also at the base of the left side of my head these feelings are especially prominent. When my former physio told me to do some exercises where I would lie on my bed and lift up my head for 10 times, 10 seconds each, by the time I would get to 8 onwards the back of the left side of my head would feel especially heavy and lifting up my head would feel painful within that area.


Also, part of the reason this has made me so depressed and frustrated over the last few years is that soon after this started in 02' I thought at first it had to do with my eyes and I resolved not to read anymore until the issue has resolved and being as stubborn as I am I still don't want to read any of my books until this is resolved. And because of this stance I feel to an extent that mentally I've kind of shut down a bit and I'm not nearly as motivated as I could be and because of that, plus added with the symptoms, focusing on even watching a movie or doing a task can be difficult. So there in lies my quandry.


BTW, Could I just confirm with someone one way or the other? Could the symptoms affecting the forehead, head, neck or back have anything to do with a left testicle that has been inside the lower abdomen for several years? I just would like to know so I know whether or not to book an embaressing appointment to see my G.P.

Thankyou.

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Re: Cause Behind Tightness Of Left Side Of Forehead, Head And Neck?

Chances are it has no real relation but honestly,when it comes to the human body,one HUGE thing i have found since all my neuro nightmares began a few years back is that anything is indeed possible when it comes to nerves.considering this is also on your left side,it 'could' be some sort of relation but it would have to most likely be a problem within the spine that would do this in order for that continuous connection to actually be there.stranger things have happened.i really do think that considering your ongoing symptoms,you are going to the best type of doc to try and figure this out.so you are headed in the right direction with that neuro.obtaining a full MRI from your brain on down thru your spine really would be the best way to just see what is and is not there,you know what i mean?it would either rule in,or out,many possible nerve/spinal problems.you are very obviously having some level of real nerve affectation,its just a matter of tracking it back to the trigger or source.this could be an eye issue or c spine issue or a c spine issue combined with a low back issue,you just really wont know til you actually get that look deeper inside the possible trigger areas.luckily you are going to the right type of doc to help you the best way.but you really DO need that full MRI,with contrast done.it WILL help.sorry i cannot give you a better clue as to whats going on.hopefully the issue will actually show up on an MRI.i do wish you lots of luck with this and hope they can at least pinpoint the trigger/s for you soon.please keep me posted,K?hang in there. FB
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Old 10-08-2007, 11:45 PM   #5
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Re: Cause Behind Tightness Of Left Side Of Forehead, Head And Neck?

Thanks for all of your comments so far,

I went and saw my G.P. and he said my left testicle being inside my lower abdomen wouldn't be causing any of the symptoms I have relating to the tightness of the left side of my forehead, head and neck.

I wanted to get a referral from him to get an M.R.I. scan before my neurology appointment in November because I thought that could save time but he said to wait until I see the neurologist and he would take care of that because otherwise it would be too expensive.

I was thinking earlier today about all of the treatments I've tried over the last few years and was thinking about how my former physio said that it wouldn't be caused by a postural problem otherwise his weekly treatments would have gradually resolved the symptoms. So, as bleak as this may sound, I was wondering whether my symptoms could possibly be affected by a problem with my heart?

I know it's a long shot and prolly unlikely but the heart is within the left side of the chest and I was wondering whether any of my symptoms (tightness along left forehead, neck and head as well as sporadic disorientation) could possibly be caused by the heart or something heart related? Would an M.R.I. be able to detect that if it were a heart related problem or perhaps just something else causing this?

Thanks again.

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Re: Cause Behind Tightness Of Left Side Of Forehead, Head And Neck?

while like i said,anything is indeed possible,the symptomology really doesn't fit real well for possible cardiac issue,if anything it could be a vascular issue within the neck area.you carry a big blood supply up to the brain thru there too.if your doc actually orders a full spinal MRI,it would be looking at the heart along the way.if there are any strange things that tend to actually show themselves while the tech is actually doing your MRI,they usally note them as 'incidental findings" on the report.i had this happen alot with strange things that have popped up on my many(16?) MRIs i have had to have on various things over the past few years.

just so you know,alot of primarys will hold off onthe actual MRIs before you see a specialist,even tho it saves time for you,the specialist may want some particular type of test done in a certain way so they wont go that route all the time.i have wanted this done too but have been told to wait with certain problems.other ones,my primary had no problem sending me before a specialst appt.it just depends.hopefully seeing this new doc and getting the MRIs will reveal something solid for you.just knowing what the cause of symptoms are is something.please keep me posted, FB
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Re: Cause Behind Tightness Of Left Side Of Forehead, Head And Neck?

Hi again,

I went to see the neurologist last week and he said my health problem (where the left side of my neck, head and forehead constantly feel tight) isn't a neurological problem however when he was doing a neurological test he could tell when i moved my head how there was tightness on the left side of my neck.

The doctor prescribed me the muscle relaxant "Endep" and I have been taking 2 tablets (20mg altogether) each night before I go to bed for the last week now. Do any of you think these muscle relaxants could be what I need to resolve my issue?

I've been taking the tablets nightly now for a week and considering this has been a health problem I've had since about mid 2002 (5 years) should I expect it will take somewhere between at least 4 - 6 weeks before the Endep tablets relieve the constant pressure I feel along the left side of my neck, head and forehead or since its been an issue I've had for about 5 years could it take even longer?

What has really been frustrating me for since this started is how the tightness along the left side of my forehead affects my left eye and because of that I always see a weird perception of my nose (I always perceive the two sides of my nose as separate and shadowy transparent images).

I don't know if it would be helping in any way but I've been trying to do some stretches each day and often when I do that I feel a 'strain' along the left side of my back as well, so should I conclude that that is the result of the tightness that has been presumably emanating from the left side of my neck?

I really hope that the Endep muscle relaxants work for me and that the tightness along the left side of my neck, head and forehead vanishes over the next few weeks.

I'd really like to hear what other people think of this muscle relaxant, whether they think it should work for my health problem and because of the amount of time I've had this health problem (about 5 years) whether I should expect the Endep not to really work its magic at least for a good 4 - 6 weeks or perhaps longer?

Thankyou.

P.S. Could my symptoms fall under the banner of 'Chronic Tension Headache'? And if so is the Endep muscle relaxant the right treatment?

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Re: Cause Behind Tightness Of Left Side Of Forehead, Head And Neck?

without actual pain involved,at least not that you have stated here as far as i can remeber,i realistically wouldn't call what you are having an actual head'ache',you know what i mean/tho muscle tightness can be responsible for alot of head type pain and other issues,i don't think,based on what you have stated as far as symptoms that the chronic thing would be it.JMO of course.the muscle relaxers could help considering there is a 'tightness' involved here.but this really doesn't explain the eye or perception problem,you know?i know valium has worked for me at times with certain types of headpain,those that are triggered by muscle issues.

did this doc say anything about actually doing that MRI?i would think he would at least have wanted something to look at inside there to see if anything was triggering this from the inside.if the muscle relaxers don't change anything,i would most definitely go back to this guy and ask for an MRI.i know some docs will take a slower methodical approach to Dxing certain things but considering how long this has actually been going on now i would think he would have wanted to move a bit more faster on this just to hopefully find the cause.realistically,depending on what this type of muscle relaxer actually does,i would think that if you have not really felt any actual difference in symptoms in a couple to a few weeks time,it most likely is not an actual muscle related issue,or the muslce relaxers are not the right type or strength.two possibilities to be there for no help.but i would think you should feel SOME level of improvement in that time if this actually was just triggered by muscle.i just think you should get that MRI done.you just need to know one way or the other if there really IS something not right inside.but i would stay on top of this doc til you finally get some answers soon.i think you have lived with this crap for long enough ya know?i hope these meds will work for you,but if not,go back and bug the hell outta him til he actually does some level of real diagnostic testing.please keep me posted jerry. FB
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Re: Cause Behind Tightness Of Left Side Of Forehead, Head And Neck?

Actually, I brought the MRI results I had from my MRI test in 2005 to the appointment and he checked the disc I brought it on on his computer and he saw it was clear. Originally I thought what I had done in 05' was a cat scan but apparently it was actually an MRI.

Since I started taking the Endep tablets about a week ago I feel like my symptoms feel a bit different, not decreased exactly, but maybe its a good sign because perhaps it shows that the tablets are having some effect and that over time, as they have to time to build up in my system, could actually help to resolve my problem.

The Endep tablets are usually used as anti-depressents but in smaller doses, like I'm taking, are also used as muscle relaxants.

Do you need a precription to get Valiums? How effective was using that for you and when you used it where on your body was the sustained 'tightness', how long had that area already been feeling that way and how long did the Valium take to work? I wouldn't be able to take Valium while taking the Endep would I so after several weeks should the Endep not be working I might try that.

 
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Re: Cause Behind Tightness Of Left Side Of Forehead, Head And Neck?

i would definitely stick with this for a bit and see where it takes you.you just never really know how something will work til you give it a full run.if this is some level of anti D,it usually takes a few weeks to realistically see real benefit,so just give it some time and go with the flow for now.i doubt this doc would actually Rx you valium.it is a benzodiazipine and pretty strong stuff.the only reason i have it is it helps with my leg spasticity from spinal cord injury.i NEED that level of muscle relaxant in order to stop the hell.

just an FYI about MRIs?most specialists would actually prefer to see one that has been done within the past six months since ALOT of changes can occur during just that small amount of time.if there was any sort of issue on the 05 one,he really does need to follow up with a more updated one now.just what did that old MRI report state in the summary at the very end about any possible issues going on up there?most spinal issues are progressive in nature,thats why you do need to follow up,espescially if this one is that old.that is alot of time passing there. FB
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Re: Cause Behind Tightness Of Left Side Of Forehead, Head And Neck?

When I stretch I feel like the lower left part of my back usually feels a bit tight and I think from that region upwards to the left side of my forehead the senation remains tight like that.

So could it be that the muscles of the lower left part of my back became contorted or strained because of poor posture of the years and an epicentre of tightness in that lower left side of my back has travelled up along the left side of my neck, head and forehead?

It wouldn't have anything to do with my spine would it? More likely this problem would have originated in the lower left part of my back (tends to feel tight there, especially when stretching) and thus this 'tight' feeling has travelled up along the left side of my back, neck, head and forehead?

If this latest theory has any substance how would I best go about solving it? Getting the left side and especially lower left side of my back viderously massaged? Or should I consider something else?

And if the problem is originating in the lower left side of my back (back muscles) then I suppose the Endep muscle relaxants could help over time....

Thanks again.

 
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Re: Cause Behind Tightness Of Left Side Of Forehead, Head And Neck?

so the MRI was of your low back area and not the c spine?i really do think the c spine needs to be looked into a bit more closely at this point.i realistically cannot see how the low back area could be affecting the areas where you are having symptoms?symptoms generally go 'downward' not upwards unless the problem is within the c spine area or within the same dermatome of coverage.

just a tidbit of info for you here.i recently started what is called craniosacral therepy along with myofascial release?this therepy centers on the central nervous system as a whole and manipulates nerve flow thru the CNS.the myo release just helps release the fascia which is like this very large continuous'spider web' like sheet that litterally covers all of our inner body organs from head to toe.when one area of the fascia gets inflammed or irritated,it can affect the rest of the 'sheet" and start causing big problems within the muscles of other areas as well.the fascia can just tighten up over the muscles and create alot of system wide problems.i NEEDED this type of therepy becasue of the huge amount of neuro/pain issues that have stemmed from my spinal cord injury and other structural problems.this has been by far the most beneficial helpful type of therepy i have ever tried,and believe me,since my injury occured back in 03,i have tried just about every type of therepy and injection and medications just trying to get some relief from my body hell.i am just wondering if you tried at least the myofascial release,if that would help out with what appears to be a real overall body tension or tightness you are feeling.this could also possibly help with the head issues too.the fascia just covers like every area of our body with one continuous sheet.so a problem at one end 'could' possibly casue some significant issues at the other end,ya know what i mean?just a good suggestionfor you.

but i would still see about getting the c spine MRI just to make certain something isn't in there that is triggering your head issues.most ins companies now actually cover myo release,they did not way back in 03 when my PT person at the acute rehab facility i got sent to after my spinal cord surgery lost my left leg function and left hand motor function,tried to get me into it and get it covered back then.they refused then but they cover it now.just something that i think could really benefit your situation.i think considering what you have going on with just plain old tension that does appear to be wide spread,the myo could really do some good for you. FB
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Re: Cause Behind Tightness Of Left Side Of Forehead, Head And Neck?

So I've been on the endep tablets for 4 or 5 weeks now and basically nothing has reall changed. From time to time I might think it feels "differently" but ultimately nothing happens.

I was wondering, another theory here, at about the age of 14 or so (99') I started a bad habit of playing around and twisting my left ear and I mostly stopped this habit several years ago however my left ear feels noticeably 'thinner' and the surface of the ear feels 'courser' then my right ear which I basically never had a bad habit of playing with.

I was wondering whether it was possible that perhaps the 'outer layer' of the left ear had detiorated and that developed a 'tight' or 'spongy' feeling along the left side of my head, forehead and sometimes neck.

I remember several years ago when playing with it that I felt like 'flaky layers' came off. So thats why it feels 'courser' now because it is now noticeably thinner and more sensitive than the other ear.

So since the endep tablets havn't been having any effect do you think this theory could have some substance to it?

Thanks again.

 
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