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Old 10-06-2007, 11:54 AM   #1
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Canker Sores - any advice out there?

I wanted to share my story in case someone out there can help me. I have had numerous canker sores in my mouth on and off for the past year. It seems like one week a month a will not have any and it is amazing!

It started about a year ago. Around that same time, I was diagnosed with a large thyroid nodule (3x2) and had a fine needle aspiration done that showed I didn't have cancer cells. I also have completely normal thyroid levels. When i started getting canker sores around this time, I attributed it to stress.

Earlier this year, I purchased a condo and was stressed so I blamed the canker sores on stress again. In March, I was starting to get concerned this was a larger issue. I researched and tried a bunch of over the counter remedies to no avail. I went to my dentist. He shrugged it off as no a big deal (not a fan of this dentist). I went to my GYN, he didn't seem to think it was a big deal either.

I finally went to my General Dr. in July...she did a bunch of blood tests and took a viral swab. I didn't have any auto-immune disorders, thyroid was normal, and no virus was present. She prescribed my lidocaine for the pain and aphthsol. I didn't find the aphthsol did much good. She told me if they come back I should see a specialist.

They keep coming back. Mostly on my tongue. Usually at the tip of the tongue and on the sides. Those are the worst b/c it hurts to talk. I called my thyoid dr. - the nurse there said it wasn't related. I went to a new dentist...he seemed to think people just live with it. I can't go on with this!

I saw an ENT yesterday. He claimed they are very difficult to treat and based on my lab results I don't have anything "bad" - he treated me for allergies (told me to take claritin d12) and also told me to take a zinc supplement. I already take a multi, b-complex, and vit. c. He thinks it may be a food allergy, so I am going to avoid dairy, chocolate, and nuts for 5 weeks and go back to see him.

I have tried cankermelts, benedryl/malox concoction, warm salt water, sls-free toothpaste, little to no tomatoes or citrus...i even got a tincture of myrrh from an apothecary.

I am in pretty good health, work out 3-4 days a week (including yoga) and am 31 years old.

Does anyone have any theories for me? Could it be my nasal allergies? Anyone think there is a thyroid relation? Does the prevalence on the tongue mean anything?

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

 
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Old 10-06-2007, 03:23 PM   #2
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Re: Canker Sores - any advice out there?

It could be related to stress or it could be acid reflux which sometimes you don't know you have. I would just rinse with warm salt water often and get some all natural echinasea (sp?) because that builds back your immune system. You may be getting to much vitamin C or eating too much acidic foods. All can be a cause. Although canker sores are normal, they can be painful! Good luck!

 
Old 12-05-2007, 01:00 AM   #3
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Re: Canker Sores - any advice out there?

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I wanted to share my story in case someone out there can help me. I have had numerous canker sores in my mouth on and off for the past year. It seems like one week a month a will not have any and it is amazing!

It started about a year ago. Around that same time, I was diagnosed with a large thyroid nodule (3x2) and had a fine needle aspiration done that showed I didn't have cancer cells. I also have completely normal thyroid levels. When i started getting canker sores around this time, I attributed it to stress.

Earlier this year, I purchased a condo and was stressed so I blamed the canker sores on stress again. In March, I was starting to get concerned this was a larger issue. I researched and tried a bunch of over the counter remedies to no avail. I went to my dentist. He shrugged it off as no a big deal (not a fan of this dentist). I went to my GYN, he didn't seem to think it was a big deal either.

I finally went to my General Dr. in July...she did a bunch of blood tests and took a viral swab. I didn't have any auto-immune disorders, thyroid was normal, and no virus was present. She prescribed my lidocaine for the pain and aphthsol. I didn't find the aphthsol did much good. She told me if they come back I should see a specialist.

They keep coming back. Mostly on my tongue. Usually at the tip of the tongue and on the sides. Those are the worst b/c it hurts to talk. I called my thyoid dr. - the nurse there said it wasn't related. I went to a new dentist...he seemed to think people just live with it. I can't go on with this!

I saw an ENT yesterday. He claimed they are very difficult to treat and based on my lab results I don't have anything "bad" - he treated me for allergies (told me to take claritin d12) and also told me to take a zinc supplement. I already take a multi, b-complex, and vit. c. He thinks it may be a food allergy, so I am going to avoid dairy, chocolate, and nuts for 5 weeks and go back to see him.

I have tried cankermelts, benedryl/malox concoction, warm salt water, sls-free toothpaste, little to no tomatoes or citrus...i even got a tincture of myrrh from an apothecary.

I am in pretty good health, work out 3-4 days a week (including yoga) and am 31 years old.

Does anyone have any theories for me? Could it be my nasal allergies? Anyone think there is a thyroid relation? Does the prevalence on the tongue mean anything?

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
Do you feel ill or have you gotten to a low point? My mother suffers from Behcets' which is an immune disorder in which the first signs are canker sores in the mouth and also the private areas. Also soreness from the eyes, nausea, etc. Do you have any of these?

 
Old 12-05-2007, 09:21 AM   #4
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Re: Canker Sores - any advice out there?

Take a look at your diet. Any acidic foods worsen them also..

 
Old 12-05-2007, 09:47 AM   #5
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Re: Canker Sores - any advice out there?

Have you tried taking L-syine as soon as you start to get one? My best friend gets them pretty bad and she swears by it. in the otc suppliment area....good luck.

 
Old 01-13-2008, 01:43 PM   #6
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Re: Canker Sores - any advice out there?

GONE IN TWO OR THREE DAYS......I use only jason products and take
mutli-vitamins and vitamin C and still am prone to canker sores. Every time i
open my mouth and the dentist's work on me, i get painful canker sores. My
friend's grandmother told me to use sauerkraut juice...I know sounds
crazy but it seems to work for me. Take a mouthful and swish it over the
canker sore for about two minutes and either swallow or spit it out. Do this
about five or six times a day till the sore is gone. For me, its about two days. Also she said to use only sauerkraut from the health food store not the
can type at the supermarket. The dentists and doctors say there is no cure
but i wanted some relief. My sores last for over a week - so this cut down the days of pain. Hope this works for others.

 
Old 01-13-2008, 02:32 PM   #7
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Re: Canker Sores - any advice out there?

Did they test you for Celiac Disease? I had recurrent canker sores practically my entire life (among other symptoms) until I was finally correctly diagnosed with Celiac Disease. Now I only get them every now and then, and usually because I hurt the inside of my mouth somehow.

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Old 01-13-2008, 04:37 PM   #8
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Re: Canker Sores - any advice out there?

I wouldn't worry about them, I get them a lot, too. Sometimes they last up to two weeks, usually the ones on my gums. I've been told not to worry about them and that it's nothing, so I suggest you do the same. It's most likely nothing. :P

 
Old 01-13-2008, 08:03 PM   #9
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Re: Canker Sores - any advice out there?

I agree with ibake&pray. I used to get sores on the tip of my tongue all the time and I went to my doctor. He suggested the L-lysine pills and I took them for a while and 'voila!'--they were gone!! It's worth a try. YOu can get these pills in any drugstore--ask your friendly pharmacist. If, after you've tried the L-lysine, you are still having trouble, then I'd suggest speaking with your doctor, possibly having some tests, etc. I would also suggest keeping a log of what you eat and seeing if there's any relationship between foods eaten and tongue sores. I found that chocolate (which I LOVE) was a culprit. But the L-lysine is a huge help!! Try it and let us know!
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Old 01-14-2008, 04:28 PM   #10
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I have gotten them all my life - all the time and also have tried everything. What I do now that seems to work (knock on wood) is always use the SLS free toothpaste, gargle with Listerine and when one comes on, my dr. has given me a prescription for Valtrex. The canker sore is gone quickly.

 
Old 02-09-2008, 07:03 PM   #11
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I have been plagued with these for many many years, I have had them so bad where I am unable to talk normal and/or eat. It's like my entire mouth gets full of them and it's literally raw, since my last episode I stopped using any toothpaste with sodium lauryl sulfate and I have not had any since! I also make sure I rinse my mouth very well with a mouthwash or water to make sure there is no toothpaste residue as this is often the culprit or canker sores.

My Doctor also gave me a bottle of "magic mouthwash" that lasts about 1 year to use if they come back, it worked wonders for the pain, (I think Doctors mix this differently) and I forget what is all in it.

Good luck!

 
Old 03-10-2008, 03:39 PM   #12
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Re: Canker Sores - any advice out there?

I have found a link between them and Whey protein. If you think of Curd's n' Whey...(cottage cheese), the whey is the liquid. They use it in tons of stuff, like protein bars and shakes, chocolate, etc....obviously dairy and things. Cheese would be the opposite, but cheese is not necessarily whey free.
Try giving up on dairy, especially, soft cheeses like cottage cheese, and feta (since it's soaked in the whey containing liquid), milk and whey heavy chocolate (cheap/'diet' low fat chocolate)...
I found all this on the internet and am so thankful!

 
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