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Old 06-07-2005, 05:46 AM   #1
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Something Other Then Beta Blockers

I have been on, and now off of Atenolol due to its horrendous side effects. I've been maintaining a decent b/p level being off of the drug. However, I have had rapid heart beat, around 120-25 on two occassions since and after a dr's visit and an EKG, I left his office with samples of Coreg. Not wanting to go on another Beta or any med since I am med sensitive, knowing from the EKG that there is nothing really wrong, is it wise to just not take anything and if tachycardia comes every so often, is it a mistake not to go back to drugs? Can an instance of tachy. cause any problem other than anxiety when it happens. Or, is there a drug that I could take, when needed, to bring down pulse? Of course I could ask my dr - but I think you guys know more than they do, via experience.......dr's are too quick to medicate up the wazoo. Again, thanks if you've read this and reply.

 
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Re: Something Other Then Beta Blockers

Mom,

For a rare upswing to 120/125 BPM, I think it would be a big mistake to take any medication if it wasn't needed for double duty like blood pressure control or heart failure.
After all 120/125 is just a good aerobic workout!
Enjoy the non-medicated life!

 
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Old 06-07-2005, 07:49 PM   #3
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Willdo - too late to answer all of your questions. Will do (note the pun) tomorrow. Regards from the Big Apple. Actually the Big Very Hot Apple today!

 
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The heart is a variable speed pump, controled by the autonomic portion of the sympathetic nervous system.
So if the pumping of the heart is controlled by the "sympathetic nervous system", and Marijuana effects the Central Nervous System, them MJ should NOT trigger a rapid heartbeat right? lol im not a p0thead im just trying to figure this out :P
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Quote: "So if the pumping of the heart is controlled by the "sympathetic nervous system", and Marijuana effects the Central Nervous System, them MJ should NOT trigger a rapid heartbeat right? lol im not a p0thead im just trying to figure this out"

Medicinal application and its dose aside acute intoxication from THC an active substance of cannabis (marijuana) will induce a rapid heartbeat. It has the properities of a stimulant and not a depressor. Intertaction with other drugs such as alcohol (depressor) may or may not have the same effect.

 
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Medicinal application and its dose aside acute intoxication from THC an active substance of cannabis (marijuana) will induce a rapid heartbeat. It has the properities of a stimulant and not a depressor. Intertaction with other drugs such as alcohol (depressor) may or may not have the same effect.
I know marijuana can increase one's heart rate. I have also heard that marijuana is a depressand and a stimulant (from different sources) So what you are pretty much saying is that if one takes marijuana in large amounts, it can induce an episode of a rapid heartbeat for those with Tachycardia? And this rapid heartbeat is "Seperate" from the normal effects of an increased heartrate (such as with caffine)?

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Old 06-08-2005, 07:38 PM   #7
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Willdo - answer to some of the questions posed. I don't smoke,I am not overweight, have stopped drinking coffee months ago, gave up alcohol (the little that I did drink on occassion and have not taken any medication other than atenolol. You asked what horrendous effects I had from this medication, so I'll tell you. For some reason, this pill did not make me tired or lethargicas most people complain. It just made me sick. Sick to the point that my GI track felt inflammed all the time causing feelings of medication coming up to my throat, to my nose, causing eyes to feel inflammed and my ears always feeling hot, plus I woke up in the middle of the night with GERD symptoms and felt nauseous too.I also had daily bouts of sweating and chills that were really intolerable. Weird, right? Also extreme anxiety at times, plus body tremors, especially in the middle of the night. One of the reasons I gave up eating many things I had enjoyed what the fact that my entire system was out of wack. Now that I am off of atenolol, I can honestly confirm that the pill caused most of my problems. My dr said my symptoms could have not been related to this pill, but then why do I feel so much better off of it.

I have had a few bouts of tachycardia over the past year. Maybe two to four. I have seen several physicians and have had EKG's from them all. I have been told that they don't see any real problem - just the fast heartrate at the time of the EKG. I feel that if something were really wrong with my heart, something would show up as an electrical problem within the EKG. Right? I have done searches on tachycardia and have learned that most are benign and the ones that aren't, show up as some irregularity on EKG's. So being that 4 different doctors in 4 different offices didn't find any reason for me to go further, I took their word. Maybe I'm wrong - but I'll see when and how often this occurs and if, at the time it occurs, was I under stress, for I do have a lot of stress in my life, like most of us, sorry to say. Since the rate of my heart never went over 130 I feel a little more confident that there is nothing terribly wrong. I have read that numbers over 150 are a little more of a problem. My latest dr has said that the numbers I came into him with this past weekend were not in the dangerous range so i figured I give it time and if it does eventually get worse, then I'll see a cardiologist - but I would think that if this dr was concerned, he would have suggested that in the first place. I could be wrong - but I'll keep check of the situation.

In answer to another of your questions, I have had blood work done a few weeks ago - all was ok, except for high sugar (A1G est 6.5), homocystine level - normal, electrolites and blood counts all fine.

 
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Willdo - answer to some of the questions posed. I don't smoke,I am not overweight, have stopped drinking coffee months ago, gave up alcohol (the little that I did drink on occassion and have not taken any medication other than atenolol. You asked what horrendous effects I had from this medication, so I'll tell you. For some reason, this pill did not make me tired or lethargicas most people complain. It just made me sick. Sick to the point that my GI track felt inflammed all the time causing feelings of medication coming up to my throat, to my nose, causing eyes to feel inflammed and my ears always feeling hot, plus I woke up in the middle of the night with GERD symptoms and felt nauseous too.I also had daily bouts of sweating and chills that were really intolerable. Weird, right? Also extreme anxiety at times, plus body tremors, especially in the middle of the night. One of the reasons I gave up eating many things I had enjoyed what the fact that my entire system was out of wack. Now that I am off of atenolol, I can honestly confirm that the pill caused most of my problems. My dr said my symptoms could have not been related to this pill, but then why do I feel so much better off of it.

I have had a few bouts of tachycardia over the past year. Maybe two to four. I have seen several physicians and have had EKG's from them all. I have been told that they don't see any real problem - just the fast heartrate at the time of the EKG. I feel that if something were really wrong with my heart, something would show up as an electrical problem within the EKG. Right? I have done searches on tachycardia and have learned that most are benign and the ones that aren't, show up as some irregularity on EKG's. So being that 4 different doctors in 4 different offices didn't find any reason for me to go further, I took their word. Maybe I'm wrong - but I'll see when and how often this occurs and if, at the time it occurs, was I under stress, for I do have a lot of stress in my life, like most of us, sorry to say. Since the rate of my heart never went over 130 I feel a little more confident that there is nothing terribly wrong. I have read that numbers over 150 are a little more of a problem. My latest dr has said that the numbers I came into him with this past weekend were not in the dangerous range so i figured I give it time and if it does eventually get worse, then I'll see a cardiologist - but I would think that if this dr was concerned, he would have suggested that in the first place. I could be wrong - but I'll keep check of the situation.

In answer to another of your questions, I have had blood work done a few weeks ago - all was ok, except for high sugar (A1G est 6.5), homocystine level - normal, electrolites and blood counts all fine.

 
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Willdo - answer to some of the questions posed. I don't smoke, I am not overweight, have stopped drinking coffee months ago, gave up alcohol (the little that I did drink on occassion) and have not taken any medication other than atenolol.

You asked what horrendous effects I had from this medication, so I'll tell you. For some reason, this pill [did not make me tired or lethargic as most people complain of. It just made me sick. Sick to the point that my GI track felt inflammed all the time causing feelings of medication coming up to my throat and to my nose and causing eyes to feel inflammed with my ears always feeling hot, plus I woke up in the middle of the night with GERD symptoms and felt nauseous too. I also had daily bouts of sweating and chills that were really intolerable. Weird, right? Also extreme anxiety at times, plus body tremors, especially in the middle of the night. One of the reasons I gave up eating many things I had enjoyed what the fact that my entire system was out of wack and it responded to everything I ingested. Now that I am off of atenolol, I can honestly confirm that the pill caused most of my problems because I feel so much better. One dr said my symptoms could have not been related to this pill, but then why do I feel so much better off of it.

I have had a few bouts of tachycardia over the past year. Maybe two to four. I have seen several physicians and have had EKG's from them all. I have been told that they don't see any real problem - just the fast heartrate at the time of the EKG. I feel that if something were really wrong with my heart, something would show up as an electrical problem within the EKG. Right? I have done searches on tachycardia and have learned that most are benign and the ones that aren't, show up as some irregularity on EKG's. So being that 4 different doctors in 4 different offices didn't find any reason for me to go further, I took their word. Maybe I'm wrong - but I'll see when and how often this occurs and if, at the time it occurs, was I under stress, for I do have a lot of stress in my life, like most of us, sorry to say. Since the rate of my heart never went over 130 I feel a little more confident that there is nothing terribly wrong. I have read that numbers over 150 are a little more of a problem. My latest dr has said that the numbers I came into him with this past weekend were not in the dangerous range so i figured I give it time ,and if it does eventually get worse, then I'll see a cardiologist - but I would think that if this dr was concerned, he would have suggested that in the first place. I could be wrong - but I'll keep check of the situation.

In answer to another of your questions, I have had blood work done a few weeks ago - all was ok, except for high sugar (A1G est 6.5), homocystine level - normal, electrolites and blood counts all fine.

I also checked out symptoms of enlarged hearts - (re the reason to take an echo) and I don't have shortness of breath, chest pain, etc. etc. etc. I only get occasional bouts of rapid heart rates. But I won't keep my head in the sand. I will keep track and if need be, I will definitely get to a cardio specialist.

I left my dr's office this past weekend with samples of Coreg. I also have propranolol. They are still sitting in my purse. I am hesitant to start taking any beta blockers again - but if I need to, I will. I just feel so good off of atenolol that the thought of another medication with possible side effects freaks me out. But, only time will tell. Thanks for your in depth answer to my former posting. It was much appreciated. If you want to contradict anything I've said, I am open to your advice.

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