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Old 07-14-2005, 02:43 PM   #1
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heart rhythm interruption

I'm still concerned about my heart rhythm even though I've had a 24 hour holter monitor test which came back 'OK' and seen a heart specialist who said it is 'probably' ectopic beats...

Up to today though I've never known about my heart rhythm changing when I've been feeling rough and having these thumps and flutters, and the reason I know it changes from fast to slow and back again is because my wife is pregnant!!!!

How you ask??

Because it occured to me that I could use the doppler monitor I bought her for the baby on my own heart, and hey presto, there it was and we both actually heard it, and from time to time (sometimes every 10 minutes) I get a missed beat whilst it is fluctuating...

So, this is what I'm really concerned about and any comments would be appreciated greatly. I have one further question though that so far has not been answered so any insight into this would also be appreciated,

My question is about this 'missed beat' and is it ectopic? To me ectopic has been described as an extra beat causing the heart to compensate and missing a beat (correct me if I'm wrong). Can someone tell me what it means if it is just a missed beat, ie no extra beat causing the heart to compensate but just a momentary stop, then start again.

Many Thanks in advance

 
Old 07-14-2005, 03:49 PM   #2
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Re: heart rhythm interruption

Ectopis, also called "skips" or PACs or PVCs.
PAC = A beat occurs early in the atria, causing the heart to beat before the next regular heartbeat
PVC = An electrical signal from the ventricles causes an early beat that goes unnoticed. The heart then seems to PAUSE until the next beat of the ventricle occurs in a regular fashion.

Usually people call above "skips" many people have them. I have them already for many years. My cardiologist told me not to worry about them, they are harmless. I learned to live with them and to ignore them.

 
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Old 07-15-2005, 01:54 AM   #3
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Re: heart rhythm interruption

Thanks for the info Laura but I should have made myself a bit clearer.

I fully understand the ectopic scenario but what I was asking is, if there was no early beat, just a missed one...

What would that mean???

The reason I ask is because I have felt, and now heard my heartbeat when one has happened and there wasn't an early beat on any occassion.

Thanks again

 
Old 07-16-2005, 05:39 PM   #4
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Unhappy Re: heart rhythm interruption

sorry but just bumping this up a bit as I'm still really concerned about this and I'm getting this every day with about 50/60 missed beats a day.

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Old 07-17-2005, 05:30 AM   #5
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Re: heart rhythm interruption

Fry

I have had exactly the same thing for two years. I have had ALL tests and have been given the all clear and told they are just ectopic and to learn to live with them. My understanding is that what we feel is the pause but we don't feel the 'extra' beat at all. This is what the doctors told me and that is how it is for me. SOmetime I get alot of them together and sometimes I get what feel slike one huge one. I to have listened in on my heart and it makes you feel more scared, so I don't do that anymore!
It is hard to learn to ignore them, but is correct that if you can, they become less. Mine can be triggered by alcohol, caffine and spicy foods. I have them quite bad today, hence being on here! I don't think you ever stop thinking 'What if they are wrong and this is serious!'
But don't worry and relax, find things to take your mind off them. take care.

 
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Re: heart rhythm interruption

Fry,
I agree with Eltwin, you have to try to ignore them and learn to live with them. I use to also walk around with my finger on my pulse, could feel the pause, but you don't feel the early beat. I read various message boards for many years now and found out these skips are very common. Some people get tested and they have up to 1,000 in 24 hours. Besides skips I also had fibrillations and flutter, so last December my cardiologist put me on Flecainide and ever since the palpitations and skips completely stopped. I'm lucky, the pills don't work for everybody. I still get skips now and then, they still feel uncomfortable but I just try ignore them. If you had a check up and doctor said your heart is okay, don't worry. I started these skips, flutters and fibs many, many years ago and I'm still around and kicking at 76!!

 
Old 07-17-2005, 07:19 AM   #7
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I think one has to learn the difference between benign and malignant heart arrhymias. In March,I was on a 30 day Event monitor for strange heart rhythms. They came back as benign beats in the upper atrium. Ok, I felt better, hearing this.
In May, I awoke to a bad case of these beats but something was different. I was weak, started sweating and was breathless. I called the ER room and told them we were coming in. (an hour's drive in heavy traffic)

I was in A-Fib which was so different from the Event monitoring read out. I had to be converted back to normal sinus rhythm. I was immedialtey put on a heparin drip and admitted. Have no idea what started this but the older one gets...this can happen. I am now on NorpaceCR after trying sotolol. Both meds have undersireable side effects for me.

 
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fry,

Don't worry. If it has been checked out and that is what they say it is. Just try and live with them. Distraction tecniques are the best, to ocuppy your m ind away from what is happening. the more you take your pulse and watchthem the more requent them are and you can actually make them happen. Watch this board there are new posts about this samae subject every week. A lot of people suffer with them. Main thing is don't worry or panic. I have panic attacks at night with them, but in the clear light of day it all seems so silly!

 
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Re: heart rhythm interruption

Hi Eltwins

Thanks for the support........I normally dont get any so much appreciated. When you say you dont feel the extra beats then why cant I hear them when listening with the doppler????????????

Hence the worry I spose............I had absolutely loads yesterday and they even woke me up during last night night but today I've only had a few in the last few hours but still worrying me again!!


 
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I don't know why we don't hear the extra beat. I kept saying this to the docs. because all it feels like is a missed beat (which is still how I describe it). They do still woryy me, even though I know they get better if I don't worry. I am having alot at the moment, but Iknow my cafine intake has gone up. So I will cut it out completely for a while. They are really horrible, I know. I don't get alot of sympthy either. People think it is all in the mind and not worrying at all. To a degree they are right, but even so...it is nice to have sympathy and support isn't it?! Take care.

 
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Fry

I don't know why we don't hear the extra beat. I kept saying this to the docs. because all it feels like is a missed beat (which is still how I describe it). They do still woryy me, even though I know they get better if I don't worry. I am having alot at the moment, but Iknow my cafine intake has gone up. So I will cut it out completely for a while. They are really horrible, I know. I don't get alot of sympthy either. People think it is all in the mind and not worrying at all. To a degree they are right, but even so...it is nice to have sympathy and support isn't it?! Take care.
Sympathy, support and some TLC is great when we go through this mess. Hubby tells me to lay down and stay down when these happen but he does keep a very watchful eye on me to make sure they are not going into A-Fib again thus making another ER trip.

Coffee and Chocolates and sometimes red sauce are big triggers for me.

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Old 07-18-2005, 10:13 AM   #12
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Re: heart rhythm interruption

Thanks for your replies again...................eltwins when you say you cant hear the extra beat and youve listened to your heart, how did you listen????

I'm curious because it was only when I used the doppler monitor that I was convinced there was no extra beat because you can hear the heart clearly.

Thanks again!

 
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Fry

Weirdly enough I used my sons spy kit!!! It is basically earphones and a listening device that obviously makes it all louder. I can clearly hear the pause, but not any extra beat. The docs have listened with their stethoscope and have heard what they call the 'ectopic' beats. Whether they hear the extra one I haven't asked.
Mine are bad at the moment. Caffine and chocolate definate triggers. I do wonder about my neck as well. I see a chiropractor and since going to her again the have got worse again. Could be coincidence, but there is something(!) that goes from your brain to your heart to control the electrics and the beating. This passes very near to where I have my neck problems. I will ask the chiro next week if this is a possibility. Do y ou have any problems like that?

 
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Re: heart rhythm interruption

I second the dumping of caffeine...and it's in chocolate so none of that. Also, what other meds might you be on? When I started having this issue they took me of my allergy meds (sudafed) and caffeine. Now I have the skips every now and then but bring the rhythm back by coughing...works like a charm.

 
Old 07-19-2005, 12:20 PM   #15
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Eltwins,
I too see a Chiropractor for my neck. I asked her about my extra heartbeats and she told me that seeing her could actually help because of the nerves in the brain sends signals to the heart. I have a lot of tension so my muscles are blocking the nerve endings.
I hope this makes sense. I am trying to explain what my Chiropractor said in the way I interpretated it.

 
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