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Old 06-28-2008, 12:46 PM   #1
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I have had a weird heart pain for months now

The weird thing is it comes and goes, some days worse than others. I seem to get the pain like a day after having a few beers, or working out heavy. My heart never used to race when i drank alcohol, but now when i do ( which isn't alot) it races, both due to the fact that i'm thinking about it and maybe something else?
Sometimes it would hurt when applying pressure, which made me think it was forget what it's called, conchronidits(speeling?) But i would get the pains at random, even when not pressing on my pec area.

Whats weird about all this is it seemed to all start with a weird burning sensation in my leg ( that i still have and comes and goes) one day it got so bad i felt numbness in all my extremities, and then i started noticing the heart pain (thats how it started) I go to my doctor and when he looked at my leg all he did was feel around for a "cyst" and didn't ask for any tests or anything! ( he thinks i'm a hypochondriac though) and when i brought up my heart all he did was listen with a stethoscope and say " there is nothing wrong with your heart" I brought up " could it be a blood clot" which would make sense, it could have broken off from my leg and moved to my heart, thats why my heart hurts. I still have the pain in my leg too though. I mean I even brought up blood tests! but he said " you just had blood work last year, you are a completely healthy adult man with the chart of somebody in their 80's"

This was month ago and after FINALLY finding a new doctor that accepts my health insurance i am seeing a new one this week. I will explain my heart worries to him, but what i need to know what is the best test to bring up for something like this? certain blood work , maybe i have diabetes? i'm in great shape though. Or i could have an enlarged heart from it beating so fast due to my anxiety

 
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Re: I have had a weird heart pain for months now

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The weird thing is it comes and goes, some days worse than others. I seem to get the pain like a day after having a few beers, or working out heavy. My heart never used to race when i drank alcohol, but now when i do ( which isn't alot) it races,
Alcohol effects the nervous system and causes the release of various hormones, which can cause all kinds of problems, especially in people with weakened immune systems. I used to drink my share of beer. Heart failure didn't stop me from enjoying a pitcher, or two of brew. What stopped my enjoyment of beer was Insulin Resistance (pre-Diabetes). Even though my health has improved dramatically due to diet and exercise, my body does not tolerate any kind of alcohol, whatsoever, or I get breathing problems, racing and irregular heartbeat, etc.

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Whats weird about all this is it seemed to all start with a weird burning sensation in my leg ( that i still have and comes and goes) one day it got so bad i felt numbness in all my extremities, and then i started noticing the heart pain (thats how it started)
Burning and numbness in the extremities could be due to Insulin Resistance (ref: Metabolic Syndrome).

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maybe i have diabetes? i'm in great shape though. Or i could have an enlarged heart from it beating so fast due to my anxiety
You could also have pre-diabetes, or Insulin Resistance, which can cause all kinds of nasty heath problems, and also neurological problems, especially effecting the extremities and one's anxiety/stress levels.

Have you know your blood sugar levels at one hour, and two hours and eight hours after eating? Do you know your triglyceride levels?

Also...... a heart that does not rest properly, in between beats, will slowly weaken. Prolonged, fast beating, or prolonged improper beating, will slowly weaken/damage a heart.

Are you overweight? How healthy do you eat? You are already doing physically demanding exercise, which is great for your health. Combine your exercise with a healthy, low Glycemic Index, low Glycemic Load, balanced diet of proteins, carbs and healthy fats, and you might experience some improvements.
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Re: I have had a weird heart pain for months now

Thanks for the reply. Funny you bring up triglycerides cause my old doctor ( one before last) actually listened to me and my symptoms and had me set up for a triglyceride count for my next lab work to see if thats why my heart beats so fast. I didn't get the changes to go as right after he stopped taking my insurance. Thing is i have social anxiety and any little thing can sometimes make my heart start pounding like crazy. Thing is i was always told by doctors that anxiety can't kill you, and your heart racing due to anxiety isn't the same as someone who has a real heart problem and can't cause any damage. Well, now after certain recent studies i have heard otherwise, that anxiety , which leads to stress can kill.

Thing is though Machaon is i feel great! which is why maybe the symptoms are just all in my head? i'm 5'7" 160 pounds, work out every other day. I really thought some of the pins were due to overtraining , especially soem of the stuff i do such as weighted push ups, pull ups, which really can put pressure on the pec area. My family history is nobody with any heart problems , no diabetes. never had blood sugar checked.

So what would i say to my doctor about what blood work i need done and what to look for? like "give me the works" LOL or should he know what to check for? I used to drink a Ton of beer in my early 20's and not a week went by for like 8 beers when i didn't go a week without drinking like 8 beers, especially in my college days. But i have since cut down to once/every few weeks and stopped smoking years ago. I have always lifted weights since i was a teen. Figures once i start getting healthy i notice these problems right? Whats weird though is right this second i have no pain, or weird feelings, i really think the leg burning sensation and the heart pain has something to do with the other. I even feel a few lumps in my ankle area!! like little balls, and one big on my calve , they only show up when i flex my muscle though and of course my other color ruled those out as well! how can it be a coincidence i have that pin in that same leg where those tumor like balls are?

Weird thing is the heart pain hasn't gotten worse ,and it always seem like on days when i don't think about it , it's not there, but then other times i feel it. and sometimes wake up with the pain. It's never constant either. I really think it's a blood clot. Like i said i have had it for months now ( around february) so if it was something really serious like a heart attack i think i would have had it by now. Also i never have any of the pains WHILE exercising and my heart rate is up. Even though my doctors appointment is coming up on tuesday and it's a new doc, i can't help but be apprehensive just from past experiences, that i wont get results for weeks, and if he wants me to see a cardiologist that would take another month probably to set up an appointment. I really want to go to the ER , this way i would get tests right away, ya know? But like i said i'm not in any pain, and if i went in there saying ' chest pain" they'd throw me on a gurney or something LOL and i would flip the heck out! Oh well, either way i'm sure the damage is done since it's been so long! between the anxiety for almost my whole life, the beers, the working out my heart is probably the size of a basketball!

edit: also forgot to answer your question about how i eat. I have an occasional cheat meal here and there, otherwise i eat pretty clean. I even got out all caffeine months ago. I take omega 3 supplements and whey protein powder.

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Re: I have had a weird heart pain for months now

One more question. I just looked over some symptoms of heart disease/enlarged heart and the only symptom i have is palpitations, but thats usually due to my anxiety and have had them for years, also the tightness in chest, but like i said it always goes away.

Thing that i was wondering is was it even possible for my doctor to tell just by listening through a stethoscope that my heart was 'fine" like he said? Am i really over reacting, which in turn is causing my blood pressure to go up and adding stress? How did you first find out something was wrong with your heart macheon? did the doctor listen with a stethoscope and immediately know that something was off? Can a doctor really tell alot of from listening to the heart through one? will i just never be satisified no matter what tests are done? Still doesn't helmp me understand what was wrong with that ekg at the hospital! even wheni told my doctor about that he didn't seem concerned (he has a ekg machine in his office and didn't even hook me up to it) and said the doctor at the hospital shouldn't have told me anything was wrong with it and it was my anxiety and racing heart rate that gave it a bad reading?!?! Then how come other people with racing hearts and have high anxiety post about having them done and them being "perfectly normal" Does my doctor just want me to drop dead for some reason? LOL. Also is it possible for me when seeing my new doctor, to have them call up the hospital? or if they wnat me to see a specialist have them call up and get a copy of my ekg to see what the heck was wrong with it?

Sorry for the long posts again, and thanks for the help!

 
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Re: I have had a weird heart pain for months now

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The weird thing is it comes and goes, some days worse than others. I seem to get the pain like a day after having a few beers, or working out heavy. My heart never used to race when i drank alcohol, but now when i do ( which isn't alot) it races, both due to the fact that i'm thinking about it and maybe something else?
Sometimes it would hurt when applying pressure, which made me think it was forget what it's called, conchronidits(speeling?) But i would get the pains at random, even when not pressing on my pec area.

Whats weird about all this is it seemed to all start with a weird burning sensation in my leg ( that i still have and comes and goes) one day it got so bad i felt numbness in all my extremities, and then i started noticing the heart pain (thats how it started) I go to my doctor and when he looked at my leg all he did was feel around for a "cyst" and didn't ask for any tests or anything! ( he thinks i'm a hypochondriac though) and when i brought up my heart all he did was listen with a stethoscope and say " there is nothing wrong with your heart" I brought up " could it be a blood clot" which would make sense, it could have broken off from my leg and moved to my heart, thats why my heart hurts. I still have the pain in my leg too though. I mean I even brought up blood tests! but he said " you just had blood work last year, you are a completely healthy adult man with the chart of somebody in their 80's"

This was month ago and after FINALLY finding a new doctor that accepts my health insurance i am seeing a new one this week. I will explain my heart worries to him, but what i need to know what is the best test to bring up for something like this? certain blood work , maybe i have diabetes? i'm in great shape though. Or i could have an enlarged heart from it beating so fast due to my anxiety
Hello Lourage,

Heart related pain can come in the following situations. 1. When the heart is not getting enough blood during the time of stress, and the heart lets you know that i am under stress, so stop. 2. When there is a heart attack - that is when the blood flow is cut off and that is pretty severe and does not go off easily, you sweat and sometime may vomit or faint. The best method to know for sure are 1. Myocardial Perfusion Scintigraphy (stress thalluim) or 2. Dobutamine Stress Echocardiography or 3. A CT coronary angiography. if these are all normal then the pain may be due to another reason called Reffered Pain - due to acidity - from the beer you have or from hot food or from a gastric problem and could be non related to heart at all.

 
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