Hi all. Lately in the news (and in the past) I have been hearing OVER and OVER that hep c can be passed sexually and as of now, through saliva.
I used to work for a world wide prominent Hep C organization and was able to talk to experts all over the world.
I asked every expert I met to give me ONE documented case of sexually transmitted Hep C and NO ONE COULD.
Now, if anyone has any info now that I don't know about, could u tell me and what the source is? (And I don't mean the CDC, they just quote the same stupid logic that has invented the statistics, i.e., "30 to 40% of people don't know where they got it so we assume it is sexually.")
Now, how many people are really going to admit they were i.v. drug users? Also, snorting coke through bloody straws or recepticles is something overlooked and really compelling.
If anyone has info to refute my allegations that we are being overy scared through bad statistics, PLEASE correct me. Thanks
I think most careful students of the numbers would agree that the chances of sexual transmission are very low--5 to 10 percent is often given as the estimated UPPER limit of the risk in a long-term sexual relationship--and this means people who spend many years sleeping with each other. Obviously, this means that the chances of contracting it in a one-time or short-term affair are vanishingly small. So, hep c is not sexually transmitted in the sense that, say, gonorrhea is, where one incident is quite sufficient to transmit the disease.
But, the virus has been detected in most bodily fluids, including saliva (and tears, by the way), so it would not be correct to say there is no chance--zero--of transmission other than by blood. we just don't know for sure.
I personally think the high risk numbers you've seen quoted are indeed ridiculous. No need to incite hysteria on this issue--it is, or should be, a minor issue in the case of hep c. But it would not be fair to our partners to act as if there was no issue here at all. "Rare" is not the same as "never."
Thanks Sean, you really understand the gist of what I am saying. You know, I do know that Hep C has been found in saliva but what confuses me is studies of couples married for years show non-infection in partner so there must be some saliva killing agent in non hep c partner. Of course there is nothing ever 100% impossible but I think that sloppy statistic taking is irresponsible. It just makes me wonder about OTHER statistics since I see how skewed they are on this issue. Anastasia
The one thing I love about this message board is that there are so many good questions ask & so many good people willing to answer them.
I just wish we could get the doctors to read all of what is on this site so they would be more understanding of what our concerns are.
The whole hep c thing seems to be money driven by all sides.
I have only known since November 2001, six months ago that I have hep c & I can't believe how the information has changed in that short a period of time.
When I first came here almost everything you read was treat, treat, treat.
Now it's more of if you are doing ok & are not sick try to wait for something better than what's available now.
Seems the thinking changes very often so I don't plan on taking any of the information too seriously except the don't drink part which I haven't done for the past 15 months.
On the saliva issue ? why not ? If you are deep throat tongue kissing someone with gum disease & you maybe flossed too hard today & bleed a little is that too hard to figure out.
Having sex on your period & partner got a skin lesion ?
Oral sex, partner gum disease?
I only speak for myself & would never want to alarm anyone but I believe there is alot that is unknown or alot they just don't want us to know but either way people need to think for yourself use your common sense don't rely 100 % on anything anyone tells you including & especially a doctor.
Challenge what your doctor tells you the stuff I go back & tell my doctors that I have read from this site leaves them speechless they just look dumbfounded by my questions but if you just sit back & let them direct your treatment with no input on your part I do believe you will glow in the dark before they are through with you.
All I do know for certain is I have had no surgeries,no blood transfusions,no tattoos,no piercings.never did iv drugs.
SO ALL THAT LEAVES IS SEX,DENTIST,LAB WORK, BLOOD WORK ECT !!!
I have been married 18 years & true to my wife she won't get tested she doesn't want to know.
I wish she would for my sanity so I could feel like I haven't given it to her ? but who is to say I didn't get it from her?
I know she has been a faithful mate but they don't know & can't say who gave it to who.
And when you take out all the fake numbers & look at treated people who stayed virus free after they were off treatment for a while it's more like 20% or less.
Not good enough odds for me to go through all that and risk all the possible side affects of treatment.
Only my opinion but isn't it possible that the treatment itself just causes the lab work not to detect the hep while you are on the treatment & then bang when you quit that's why it shows back up?
It never really was gone to begin with? I don't know I don't put much faith in anything I read anymore but the people here know more than the doctors do on this I am sure.
DRSLETMEDOWN-ain't that the truth...My Dr tells me to ask him or the nurse questions instead of the internet. They rush me on my visits, with quick and short answers, instead of showing my lab work and explaining everything to me. I don't feel I can trust them to make the right decisions for me, so I connect everyday on line to learn for myself what's ahead. I think it helps me keep a positive attitude, knowing that I'm in control and not them...As long as they keep avoiding me, I'll find someone else to answer my questions, even if they're less qualified than the Dr(and so far everyone in this group appears more qualified than the so called pros)...Thanks...
HEP C AND SEX. THIS IS ******* ME OFF 
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