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mtmt 09-07-2009 02:06 PM

groin hernia repair
 
My surgery was performed in Dec. o8. I am still having problems. I have been to a different doctor and both say I need pain management. I burn and sting all the time and fairly often, it's like a big knot comes up in my right side and I feel like I have catch inside. It takes days for it to go away. Each time I go to the doctor, he presses down on the incision sight and it's days before I get straightened out again.

EducatedPanther 09-12-2009 01:19 PM

Re: groin hernia repair
 
I just had hernia repair surgery in July myself. Did you get the mesh repair, where they cover it up with a piece of material? I don't know how long it takes, but I have read that some people have reactions to the mesh, but not until the tissue has already grown around it. That is why I found a doctor who doesn't use the mesh method (unless its too severe to not use it).

You might look in to having it removed it it's still possible and have it repaired the old fashioned way, before they started using mesh. The doctor I used was in Las Vegas, and specializes in helping people that don't have insurance.

Did you start feeling the pain some time after you were "healed" from the surgery, or ever since? If it has been since the surgery, it may not have been attached properly or securely... if it was some time after the surgery, you may be reacting to the mesh...

Cowpin8 09-12-2009 03:56 PM

Re: groin hernia repair
 
I am going through the exact same thing. I had laporascopic left inguinal hernia surgery in December of 2008 with mesh. I was feeling fine until about 2months ago. I am in a lot of pain in the area where the mesh is. I am so frustrated. I am going back to the surgeon on Tuesday. I am going for a Pelvic CT Scan with Barium on Monday to see what is wrong. The pain is sharp and sudden and I also feel a decent size lump where the hernia was. If I press on my left pelvis I feel like I am stabbing my insides. I went back to my surgeon last month and he said it was just a groin pull. He was absolutely wrong. I knew he was wrong but I accepted what he said. Now I feel worse. Finally after I called his office yesterday and complained he took me serious. I am hoping and praying that the CT Scan will show something so he can fix it. This is torture!!!
I hope you feel better. Keep us updated and I will do the same.

tUrRrRa 09-14-2009 09:27 AM

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I will soon be getting groin hernias (double) repaired in November, and also am going to go for the traditional non-mesh repair method. My surgeon told me that it's quite common to get discomfort with the mesh later on after everything has healed, especially for women. I can't say I'm too knowledgeable about the surgery itself since I am new to it and haven't had mine performed just yet. Was the hernia large? From what I understand, you kind of HAVE to use the mesh if the hernia is larger or you will just risk it occurring again. My hernias are smaller in size and not all that noticeable, so I am hoping the traditional surgery will go fine as long as I'm gentle with the area and careful afterwards.

I hope you are able to feel better soon! Cowpin8 is very helpful on the subject (responded to one of my questions). If you don't feel comfortable with the particular doctor, maybe you can get a second opinion elsewhere to make sure everything is okay.

Cowpin8 09-14-2009 01:04 PM

Re: groin hernia repair
 
I didnt make it for the Pelvic CT Scan today. I am going tomorrow and then straight to my surgeons office. I have to drink a LOT of Barium before the Pelvic CT Scan which means my surgeon is checking to see if my bowels (small or large Intestines) are possibly trapped in the mesh or titanium tacks he used. I am SOOOOOOOOOOO frustrated already!!!
Good Luck to all.

EducatedPanther 09-15-2009 12:02 AM

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Barium... yuck! Good luck with your appointment.

Mine was small enough to use the classic method fortunately.

tUrRrRa: Make sure to take it easy. My doc had me wait at least 30 days before lifting anything over 40 lbs... but I gave myself 6 weeks as I wasn't quite feeling up to par yet. I was back to work the week after my surgery, which was on a Tuesday, but I healed slower than I anticipated so give yourself plenty of time. I am a PC/Network Technician so I sit most of the day. Depending on your job you might want to give yourself a little more time if you can.

Also, if you have never had surgery before, you may want to get some pain meds from the doctor the day before so you have them available. You really should have someone available to help you for at least the first few days... it took me a couple days to be able to walk on my own from the meds and anesthetics. Some people get nauseous from the anesthetics, so if you haven't been put under before, you might mention it to the doc, so you can have something ready should that happen.

Another thing: some meshes have pending litigation and class action suits... mtmt and Cowpin8, you may want to find out what kind of mesh was used and do some research. Obviously litigation isn't ideal, but if it is too late to remove/replace the meshes, it may be you only option for getting some reparations.

Cowpin8 09-15-2009 06:55 PM

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Just got back from the hernia surgeon. I had an ilioinguinal nerve block shot. A large needle inserted RIGHT INTO MY LOWER GROIN!!! Owwwwwwwwww!!! Alright...it wasnt that bad but I cannot feel my left leg right now. I hope it helps with my groin pain. I also had the Barium Pelvic CT Scan. Showed some minor stuff but nothing my surgeon said should cause pain. The surgeon finally said that maybe one of titanium screws he used in my abdomen is causing the pain. He may surgically remove it, IF the Nerve Block shot doesnt help in a week from today. These titanium screws are only used in 5% of his hernia surgeries. Lucky me. Feel free to ask any questions about the ilioinguinal nerve block shot as I just had it a few hours ago. I wish everyone well. Oh yeah...All these problems because of weightlifting for almost 20 years. I thought weightlifting was good for you. Oh well...

EducatedPanther 09-15-2009 11:43 PM

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I would be seriously concerned about anything that messes with your nerves. I read that the Ilio-inguinal nerve block with ropivicaine should be avoided.

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I hope he didn't use that... I would be doing research before getting any more shots. From what I have found, most of the people who posted about those shots on the net, have to get the constantly/repetitively, and other complications from the shot itself. You really should research stuff yourself before just taking a doctors word for it... doctors know a lot, but there is a lot they don't know as well. People are seriously injured or suffer other effects from just taking a doctors word for it, and just doing what they say without asking questions or researching things themselves. This post has really opened my eyes to that fact. I have a mom who is always harping on me to check things out... and now I am glad I did, before I had my surgery. If I hadn't, I would have probably gotten the mesh repair, and risked suffering the same symptoms you guys are now dealing with.

Did he use the screws to hold the mesh in place? Seems a little extreme to me...

As for weightlifting, that is one of the most common causes for groin hernias in males... it's a weakness in the abdomen wall where the tubes pass through to the testicles. Males are generally more susceptible, especially those who weightlift.

Cowpin8 09-16-2009 01:45 PM

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Yes my surgeon did use the titanium screws to hold the mesh in place. He now thinks that maybe one of those screws might be the cause of my pain. He wants to do more surgery to remove the screw. I am so confused right now. I think I am going to let him take it out.

tUrRrRa 09-16-2009 02:32 PM

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Wow, I hope everything turns out okay for you Cowpin8. I am sure that is very frustrating. Is this the same doctor that you had the actually surgery performed with? Or is this a new one?

EducatedPanther, I didn't realize how much difficulty mesh repairs can cause later on, so now I am even more thankful that my surgeon is going to repair my hernias without mesh. About how large would you estimate your hernias to be? Mine are not all that noticeable, but I can feel them and slightly see a bulge at times. They would be egg-shaped, although smaller than eggs (one third of an egg in size or half possibly- hard to tell). I hope that the old-fashioned surgery without mesh works just fine!

Taking off more than one week of work will be very difficult as this is a very busy time for us. We often can't get time off around the holidays. I am an auditor at a bank, so luckily I can sit most of the time and can try to get comfortable as best as I can at my desk. The people I work with are great, so I am sure they will be willing to help as much as they can (I just want to keep the surgery kind of private other than my boss knowing). The only other surgery I had is wisdom teeth removal, so I've done the anesthesia and luckily didn't get any nausea for it. I just slept pretty much all of the first day when I got home and don't remember a thing until after I was in the car leaving. I have a few people willing to stay home with me, so that will be great. I will definitely look into getting the pain pills ahead of time (did that for wisdom teeth surgery) and will likely sleep a lot while taking those as well.

Wow, now I'm rethinking the weight lifting I used to do! I don't do anything too strenuous, but I don't want to risk the hernia coming back after the surgery. Perhaps I'll go back to Pilates and stick with just using my 10-pounders at home rather than using heavier weights and machines. Luckily I can manage to get good results just using body weight and lighter weights. Right now I can't even use my 10-pound weights per my doctor's instructions. I can only do exercises (very carefully) with my own body weight and can't do anything too strenuous. My hernias were not caused by weight lifting though, but I do VERY well think I made my left hernia worse by doing inner thigh exercises (the hip adductor machine). I felt pain and had mild swelling, I noticed one side of the groin was larger than the other. If I hadn't have done this, I probably would have NEVER realized I had hernias to begin with! I have to be thankful for that injury so I can take care of it before it gets worse!

Cowpin8 09-16-2009 05:30 PM

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Dont be afraid to lift weights. Just dont over do it like I did. I have been weightlifting very heavy weights for a long time. I wasnt a pro or anything like that but I always was pretty big and lifted extreme amounts. I regret it now. I wish I would have lifted less and stopped worried about getting bigger. I always over did it. I worked out with injuries, while I was sick, after surgery. I was a little obsessed. I was almost 260 pounds at my so called "prime" about 2 years ago. Although I was pretty strong, thats just too big. Again its not like I was a linebacker in the NFL or a professional bodybuilder. I was just obsessed with getting big and strong. Now I am about 220 and will NEVER lift what I use to. I think I will allow myself to get to 230 pounds and just maintain that weight. High reps with lighter weight and 30 minutes of cardio everyday. Also, LOTS of protein. That will hopefully be my new program after I decide what to do with this groin and back pain.

tUrRrRa 09-16-2009 05:51 PM

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Cowpin8, best of luck with your goal! That sounds great and I'm sure you will be able to get there. Well, I'm definitely no body builder and more of a light weight, high rep kind of person, so maybe I don't have to worry so much about it. I'll make sure to not strain or try way too hard. I tend to stick with a weight that is comfortable, yet challenging. I've noticed that it has always felt a little weird to do the hip adductor exercise. Only recently was the time I felt pain and got the swelling! I seemed to do fine with any other exercise. I'll take it easy for a while and gradually build my way up :) As a female, I am just looking to have energy and be strong and in shape. I used to have body image problems, so originally wanted to lose weight for confidence. Now I'm maintaining where I'm at to be healthy and feel great!

EducatedPanther 09-16-2009 11:56 PM

Re: groin hernia repair
 
Cowpin8: is he going to take the screws out but leave the mesh? I'm no expert of coarse but if it were me, and its not too late, I would want the mesh removed.

tUrRrRa: mine was fairly large, and I got mine from an auto accident in 2004. At first it was just swelling, so I ignored it for 3 years (it didn't cause any pain). Then one day it started causing so much pain I could barely stand to walk or move much. I went to the doctor and he knew exactly what it was, right away. I lived with pain off and on for over 2 years (was determined to be a hernia in 2007). For the first several months of 2009, it was off and on more constantly. It had gotten bigger over time to the point it was bigger than a golf ball, probably about halfway between that and a tennis ball. I don't know how big the actual opening was the intestines were through. It was such a relief to get it fixed... there was more pain afterwords for a short time, but it was worth it.

If the surgeon is good, it's usually the most extreme cases that they can't use the classic repair method. Sounds like yours should be fine, as they sound smaller than mine was, and mine turned out ok :)

Hopefully yours won't be quite as drastic as mine was. I was pushing it to the limit to go back the Monday after I got mine done on Tuesday... but I managed.

Regarding weight lifting, the weakness is unique to each person, so one person will get a hernia from less weight than someone else. It is more common with the extreme weight lifters though. More repetitive weight lifting, rather than going for heavy weights, is better for reducing the risk of a hernia.

tUrRrRa 09-17-2009 07:46 AM

Re: groin hernia repair
 
Thanks for your reply! Yes, mine are definitely smaller than golf ball sized bulges. They are in the groin area, yet I can still wear a swimsuit and not have anything noticeable that anyone else would see (thankfully). I can just remember being this way for years, as long as I can remember. Since mine were symmetrical, I thought it was normal and sound kind of muscle or something in the area. Then I found out that there is usually just fatty tissue over the pelvis bone, and there was no way that was fatty tissue! My surgeon identified them pretty quickly too. I guess it was a relief to just have an answer and not be left wondering. My surgeon is a bit on the younger side, but I am okay with that since I feel that she would be "up-to-date" on techniques for the repair.

I have a few family members offering to come stay with me for a few days, but to be honest, I am not so sure about some of them. When my grandma comes to visit, it ends up being quite stressful (haha)! She is one of those very active people who can't sit still and get very anxious easily (not a typical grandma!). My fiance will be taking care of me the first day and he can stay longer if needed. My mom and dad have also offered to fly in (just one of them) to help out as well, but again, I'd almost feel like I'd have to be a good hostess and that might be more stressful. My family all lives out of town and immediate family out of state.

EducatedPanther 09-18-2009 01:27 AM

Re: groin hernia repair
 
The less stress you can have for the first few/several days, the better. At least you aren't in severe pain... you don't want to wait longer than you have to. They are one of those things that do not get better on their own, and only get worse.


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