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Old 03-20-2005, 12:44 AM   #1
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testing for herpes

a few nights ago I slept with someone for the first time in months and we used condoms through out the whole time. After we had sex he tells me 'Btw, I have herpes' I felt so betrayed that I can't even put it into words. I asked him why didn't tell me earlier and his response was 'I forgot' As much as I liked this person i just felt like i had the rug pulled out from under me. He should of told me before so that i could of done my own research and come to my own conclusions on what my comfort level would be. All day i've been reading different websites on herpes information and i was wondering if anyone knows what the window period is for testing for herpes and what types of tests are available. The person I was with has had herpes for four years and hasn't had an outbreak in over a year. I asked him where he gets the outbreak and he said in the pubic hair region so the condom doesn't even cover that. Yay me!

I spoke two different counslers, one from the cdc and one from national herpes hotline and got very, very different information. From the CDC i was told that there really isn't a test available for herpes and a person needs to have an outbreak in order to be diagnosed which can be anywhere from 2 days to years. If this is true, what do I tell people? I'm 23 years old, single, and if i have sex with someone do I just say 'I might have herpes but i'm not really sure'
The woman from the herpes hotline told me that there are tests available, some more reliable than others. She told me about the Captia test and that it is very reliable however it's not available in many places. I called my health dept. and asked them if they offer this test and was told that they don't but they do offer a different type of blood test however it's not that reliable and they don't even recommend it. According to them every other person may test positive on it due to cold sores or if they ever had chicken pox.
If you guys have any info, i'd greatly appreciate it!

 
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Old 03-20-2005, 10:32 AM   #2
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Re: testing for herpes

First of all - sorry you were treated badly by this guy. Of course, he should have told you before you had sex, and it's pretty awful that he didn't.

OK, regarding testing: you know, when I was first concerned about having herpes, I called several helplines here in the UK where I live about how I could be tested. I found that my reading of a medical encyclopedia and a couple of webpages meant that I knew more than most of the people I was speaking to on the supposed "helplines". What's also concerning is that I know more about herpes than a couple of my friends who are doctors!

There are two ways of testing for herpes:

1. A type-specific blood test. Your health department may be referring to a non-type specific blood test, which may not distinguish between types 1 and 2. The significance is that anything between 40 to 80% of people will test positive for type 1, the virus which causes the vast majority of cold sores on the mouth (type 2 causes a minority of the problems there). Many people acquire this virus as a child, have one cold sore, and never see any other problems. They will still most likely test positive for herpes on a test though.

Type 2 is the classic genital herpes (although you can also get it on the mouth in rare cases, and type 1 is also increasingly found genitally) and the infection rates for this are lower.

The thing about a blood test is that it won't tell you WHERE you have the virus. If you test positive for type 2, it is reasonable to assume the infection is genital as oral infections of type 2 are quite rare. If you test positive for type 1, the balance is in favour of an oral infection, although as I have said, type 1 is on the increase genitally (I have it both genitally and orally).

You will need to wait around 12-16 weeks to be confident that a blood test has been accurate. I think in the USA you are probably looking for something called the Western Blot (they have different names here) as this distinguishes between the different types - perhaps a USA resident can confirm this?

2. The other way of testing is a culture of the sore, taken by it being swabbed. This can be more helpful as it tells you what virus you have, and where i.e. if a genital sore tests positive for type 1, then you know that you have type 1 genitally - whereas a blood test only tells you that you have the virus and not where you need to be concerned about it.

The downside is that cultures need to be carried out very soon after any sore appears - within 1 to 2 days, otherwise there is a significant risk of a false negative. Also, not all herpes symptoms are suitable for a culture test. A lot of people get herpes outbreaks which manifest as a scratch or a cut in the skin. These usually do not yield very good culture tests - they work better on the classic blisters and sores.

It's a good thing that you have used condoms but as you have realised, herpes outbreaks can occur anywhere in the genital region (and beyond e.g. the inside of thighs, top of the legs etc) and condoms are not as effective at preventing transmission of this skin to skin virus as they are at stopping viruses passed by bodily fluids.

Good luck... I hope you don't have herpes.

 
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Re: testing for herpes

Beaker,

Thank you so much for responding. I had no idea that I needed to wait that long for a test and already made an appoitment with a doctor for next thursday which will be about a week since the encounter.

 
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Re: testing for herpes

Well, most people will get the antibodies (it's the antibodies they test for you in your blood) within a couple of weeks, but with some people it takes significantly longer. You could get tested now but you should probably retest after 3 or 4 months to be certain about the results. Good luck.

 
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Re: testing for herpes

contrary to what anyone says, you dont just forget you have herpes.

he probably "forgot" because he wanted sex and felt bad later.

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