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Old 01-22-2006, 01:35 PM   #1
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Where can herpes actually spread on your body?

30 days into realising now for sure have genital H. (Oh luck me :-) have begun to be a little paranoid - In the midst of my first major OB, although had 2-4 smaller ones before which I didn't clue in b4 - I looked at my forearm and noticed little bumps. My OB right now is rash, bumping sort of thing, so the forearm looks kinda the same - only 8 or so little bumps. Not sure if being paranoid or some of u out there during an OB have (visible) symptoms elsewhere on body...ANYONE?...I think that theoretically u can have symptoms anywhere (e.g. hands) but curious what is 'typical' if there i such a thing

HAS ANYONE HEARD OF RASH/BLISTERS ON FOREARMS/ELSEWHERE?

 
Old 01-22-2006, 10:35 PM   #2
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Re: Where can herpes actually spread on your body?

Has anyone ever heard of getting symptoms on your arms? - I now have an obvious rash on my arms during my first big genital OB. The STD specialist and dermatologist already weren't helpful in identifying the genital rash symptoms as a 'typical' H OB. I can't imagine they would know if the arm rash (tiny tiny blisters) would be related to H. Any input woud be really appreciated

 
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Old 01-23-2006, 07:35 AM   #3
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Re: Where can herpes actually spread on your body?

It is definitely possible for you to have a herpes OB on your arm. The doctor can ***** one of the blisters and have a test run at the lab to see if it is indeed herpes. A few years ago, I had a herpes OB on my thumb. First my thumb started to itch terribly and then white bumps popped out all over it. I thought it was possibly some kind reaction to an insect bite? But low and behold, it was herpes.

 
Old 01-23-2006, 07:51 AM   #4
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Re: Where can herpes actually spread on your body?

As I was searching yesterday on more information on Autoinnoculation(spreading it to other parts of your own body) I ran across pictures of types 1 and 2 shown on other parts of the body. One picture looked just like what I had between my fingers on my one hand. It looked like a rash and for me it's very similar to poison ivy. I had a spot on my wrist that never got too bad, during my first outbreak also. During my first OB, I also had a few spots that itched on my lower part of my legs. I had once read an account of how one person got genital herpes and they said that they had it on their arms and a doctor...if you can believe this...actually identified it as herpes(miracle!)...anyway, he claimed that he later gave himself genital herpes. I have been researching this because I have been perplexed by the fact that even though my BF had always had cold sores as long as he can remember and he gave me genital herpes...he had a bad OB on his face just following my first OB. I know he gave it to me because he had a sore on his penis the very first time we had sex! He just didn't realize something so minor looking could have been herpes. He later told me that he's been getting these sores a couple times a year for probably 30 years(he's 50) always in the same couple spots. I would pretty much lay money down that your arm rash is herpes. My herpes lesions started out as knots under the skin, stayed like that for a couple weeks and then each sore turned into a rash that itched so bad I thought I was going to just die!!!!!! I also had it all around my hips/rearend.
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Old 01-23-2006, 05:26 PM   #5
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Re: Where can herpes actually spread on your body?

Auto-innoculation (transmission of herpes to another part of the body) is rare after your initial outbreak. Your body has built up antibodies, so it is much more difficult to transmit the infection to another location. It's not absolutely impossible (what is!), but it's VERY unlikely.

 
Old 01-23-2006, 10:13 PM   #6
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Re: Where can herpes actually spread on your body?

Thank you for responding!!!
Silly question /obvious insight then - if this is a disease that is spread by contact then all us HSV+ people better be darn careful! I am just very worried about an arm rash /OB because I wouldn't dare want to give this to anyone. It's such an exposed area. For those that mentioned u had it on your hands what on earth did u do? I still don't really understand how this thing spreads within the same person with respect to areas NOT in contact with an OB area - This is my latest first big OB i have be fanatical about scrubbing my hands - can't imagine how it would get to my arms.

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I need to find some good books on this stuff. I read somewhere there are manay types of H, just HSV1 and HSV2 are most prevalent. I wonder if this arm rash is some other strain.

 
Old 01-23-2006, 11:19 PM   #7
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Re: Where can herpes actually spread on your body?

Ok, it's not THAT easy to spread: it needs a way to enter your body. So if you have a cold sore, for example, and you have a cut on your finger, and you touch the cold sore, you could POSSIBLY give yourself herpetic whitlow (herpes of the fingers). But unbroken skin holds up pretty well against the virus, and HSV-2 really prefers your genitals...try to remember that up to 90% of the adult population has HSV-1, and you don't see people with herpes all over their bodies! Kids get cold sores all the time, and they're filthy! They touch themselves everywhere without washing up! If it was easy to auto-innoculate, kids would be covered in herpes sores all the time. Try not to worry so much. :-)

 
Old 01-24-2006, 05:57 AM   #8
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Re: Where can herpes actually spread on your body?

Well it is on my hand and wrist and everytime I have an OB so far, it's made the spot on my hand and wrist reappear. Also, my BF who has had herpes for years(and there is no question that he gave it to ME!!!!!) had an OB on his face just about the same time I had my very first OB. So I think we can pretty much throw the "rules of thumb" out the door in our case! Unless these things have actually happened to you, it's easy to say they rarely happen. How could I get it on my hand it's asked...I do touch his penis with my hand. I do touch my body with my hand. I'm not a total expert on the subject but I think that the herpes virus kinda has a mind of it's own and once it gets into your body, it can appear wherever it wants to! No different than the fact that I had my genital outbreak all over my entire genital area...from front to back but I have new had anal sex!!!!!!
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Old 01-24-2006, 09:52 AM   #9
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Re: Where can herpes actually spread on your body?

Well, I'm not an "expert" either, but I do know that scientifically, the virus resides in a specific nerve ganglion (typically the trigeminal in the face and the sacral in the genital area). Outbreaks can then appear anywhere those nerves run. So in the genital area, that means the ENTIRE boxer short area. If you were infected in the "front", you can still have outbreaks in the "back", because the nerves are all connected. The nerves are NOT connected to other parts of your body, so in order to have an outbreak there, you would have to have infected (through broken skin or mucuous membrane), another nerve ganglion. If this is going to happen (as it apparently has on your hand), you probably touched your outbreak or his at some point with a small cut or scratch on your hand. And as I mentioned before, if that happened, it most likely happened during your primary outbreak, since that is the only time your body doesn't have antibodies to the virus yet. But the virus can't "travel" inside your body from your sacral ganglion to your hands. Hope this helps! Just trying to make sure everyone has good information, the internet is filled with mis-information. This virus sucks enough as it is without worrying about things it doesn't even do!

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Old 01-24-2006, 10:32 AM   #10
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Re: Where can herpes actually spread on your body?

Autoinnoculation, although rarely happens after the initial OB it can happen and it did happen to my BF.
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Old 01-24-2006, 10:41 AM   #11
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Re: Where can herpes actually spread on your body?

Where did your BF auto-innoculate himself? Did they culture the new site to verify? Just curious, since everything I've read has said it is so rare!

 
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Re: Where can herpes actually spread on your body?

he has had cold sores his whole life, has had what we now know to be genital herpes for about 30 years. At almost the same time I had my bad OB, he had herpes all over the bottom half of his face, most definately for giving me oral sex. Since I got herpes from him, he spread herpes to me and spread it back to himself through contact even though he has had herpes for years and years. So in a round about way, he infected his face with genital herpes from himself.
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Old 01-25-2006, 12:49 PM   #13
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Re: Where can herpes actually spread on your body?

Everything I read (on the web - yes questionable) points to auto innoculation as a possibility even after initial OB. In my case, as I mentioned, after my OB I was fanatical about washing hands now..on my lower arms between my elbows and wrists on the top I have a rash PLUS my genital OB symptoms are a rash not blisters - so made me think it's H on the arm - - HOWEVER I KNOW i have NOT touched my arms - its the same oval shapped pattern on both arms and I am wondering about this - same pattern, size on each arm.

maybe it is something else - herpetic exema??

arm rash could be...
a) side-effects of valtrex (1000mg 2x day as a big OB)
b) odd H symptoms
c) some other unrelated rash
d)?

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Old 01-25-2006, 01:17 PM   #14
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Re: Where can herpes actually spread on your body?

My guess is B, what I have on my hands looks nothing like what's on my genitals. I bet that after you've had several OBs, you will find that you will get this rash each time you have a genital OB...well, that's how it's gone for me anyway. OH and BTW, I have not taken Valtrex so for me it can't be that!
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Old 01-28-2006, 11:50 PM   #15
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Re: Where can herpes actually spread on your body?

Thanks "Goodheavens" -- I've had this for about 5 months, and when I do get an OB, my mind races back to alllll the pages I read during my first OB about the potential of spreading the virus to other parts of the body. Since at first I didn'T know it was H, I didn't think much about rubbing my eyes or anything. Since learning more, I even avoid using the same towel around an outbreak and then on my body. But what you say makes a lot of sense: It's the same virus, and if our immune system has seen it before, spreading should be unlikely. Well, I'll still be careful -- but less paranoid than before. Thanks.

 
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