Oceanus -how r u doing ? And wishing you a very happy and healthy New Year !
Last we corresponded, you had just bought the Longevity generator......you must have tried it by now..and I can't wait to hear how it's going..have you noticed any difference/any help at all with the outbreaks ?
Hey let's hear everthing. I have some news on this topic too........
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Thanks for asking for an update. Also, happy 2008 to you as well. I hope it's a great year for all of usI have not actually used the ozone generator yet. The oxygen tank they sent me did not work properly so I had to wait until the customer service people got back from their 2 week holiday vacation to get a replacement tank. I did receive that tank free of charge just this past week and yesterday I got it filled with oxygen. So I plan on using it for the first time later today. I still have to get the proper usage information, but the company is only available during regular weekday business hours, so it can be a little difficult to get things done quickly.
They said they will email links to a website that gives the right information for how to use it, but they didn't do it yet, so I will have to call again and ask.
They will pay for the shipping as well for the old tank to be returned. The lady said in the 5 years she has worked for Longevity she has never known of a problem with one of their oxygen tanks...just MY luck, I guess then.
What's your news?
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so great to hear from you........Well good luck on finally getting to start the ozone treatment. As they say, slow and steady wins the race : )
I have been researching what the heck to do exactly since I REALLY NEED TO DO SOMETHING THAT WILL WORK. Or else.....let's just say that I am in dire straights symptom wise and have finally broken down from the pain and started taking acyclovir whenever I feel that it might be a nasty one coming on.
The info i specifically want to share with you is that the form of ozone therapy which is most recommended for this virus as per my research thus far, is ozone injections. And then next are ozone saunas . i know that your generator is for vaginal/rectal insufflation, so I don't want to disappoint you with my news....... but just share what I read, which also mentioned that the insufflation method may take longer..........
Also , I read about a scuba diver who underwent a session of hyperbaric oxygen therapy. the protocol he followed was, in the technical jargon, called " airforce table plus two extensions, complete oxygen saturation at two atmospheres or 60 feet "
He did it not for the herpes but to cure a case of the "bends" after a diving accident. But he says he never got another genital Ob in the several years thereafter, though he always got frequent OBs before this HBOt session.
I plan on finding out more about ozone shots and this form of HBOT
-and how to go about it .
In the meantime, the very best of luck to you with the generator.
Let's keep sharing our findings.
Regards,
oasis
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I forgot to add that I am very sad to hear you have resorted to taking pharmaceutical drugs again to manage your OBs. How long have you been suffering with herpes? Have you tried taking the extra virgin coconut supplements? I have been taking them every day religiously and am still doing great, even when I get my period I don't get an OB. I mean everyday I do feel some discomfort, but in as little as 30 min after I take the 3 pills I feel better, normal again. I take 3 pills in the AM with food and then 3 more at night with food. Lately, sometimes I have been skipping my evening pills because I actually feel fine and so I just forget to take them. Things seem to be getting better and better the more I take it. I took 3 pills this morning and tonight I felt a little discomfort, so did the ozone treatment. And now I feel better and don't feel as though I need to take the pills. I used to even take an extra 2-3 in the afternoon when I felt a bit itchy and burning down below, but now I am less dependent on it. Maybe you ought to try taking the pills. Did you do the oil on its own in a jar again for awhile to see if it would help as it did before for you?
Hello Oceanus,
So glad you were able to locate the documentary..watching something like that helps instill further confidence in a therapy that gets battered alot from different sources.
Also, thanks for the pros and cons you provided on the different forms of ozone treatment. Last 6 weeks my OBs have actually started spreading across a much larger radius around the genital region and some of them were very very painful to the point that I felt totally incapacitated. The coconut oil did not seem to be working then.......though I don't mean to discredit it. So I started taking acyclovir which is much cheaper than its fancier sister valtrex out of sheer frustration in order to abort another painful episode. I am taking the med as a preventative if I feel alot of tingling coming on rather than wait for the Ob to happen and then go through the whole cycle of it swelling, waning and then finally healing ........
Since you mentioned you were disappointed that I had started taking these drugs -sorry about that - let me explain my reasoning behind it -
We are not totally sure whether taking a med of that nature interferes with the the process of immunity build up . From all this reading , I learnt that some of the current researchers believe that the virus has a weekly cycle of emerging, travelling up the nerve and breaking out and then retreating. In people with alot of OBs, the immune regulatory process is interfering with the processes that inhibit the virus early on in this cycle. So whether you take a suppressive or not, the med does not play a role in what your immune system is doing. the med just halts the viral replication process once the cycle has started.
This interpretation by researchers is also what influenced my decision to take the help of these meds, BUT, only up until the time I can start the ozone and oxygen treatments since the meds definitely do not constitute a solution for me...............Also, i hate to say this, but I have read plenty of cases where people have continued getting bad Obs for year after year after year...that makes me wonder whether immunity does actually build up to the point in those chronically affected , where it would finally get a strong grip on the virus......in which case, taking or not taking meds like acyclovir won't really matter when it comes to immunity build up.
I sincerely hope the vaginal insufflation puts an end to your problem. It is just that different people have claimed different strategies working for them and different ozone experts also hold differing advice on what form would work best for this virus. that is why comparing notes is so important here. If between a bunch of us, we can try different things within the ozone and oxygen field, we might uncover what ultimately works better or best.
I will look up the online ozone support forum you are a member of........that would be a great resource and just what i need at this point. ALso, I have made a list, collated from the web, of a number of ozone practitioners . I plan on calling several of them to see what they have to say.
About autohemotherapy, seems like in this country(unlike in Europe) there might not be that many docs doing it openly (perhaps there is an ozone underground) but some more are doing ozone intravenously. the theory is that every cell in the body - including the spinal cells where the virus homes -needs to be nourished to stay alive. and this nourishment is supplied by blood and oxygen on a continuous basis. So ozone in the blood would travel to these cells too. those who say insufflation or saunas are less efficient than the former method claim that ozone is less efficiently taken up through the skin........ie the amounts taken in are smaller......
(I personally don't support one way over the other since I have no direct experience or observation to go by. i am just relating to you whatever I have read)
So for now I am trying to research more before deciding which way to go or start with. I won't be satisfied if the treatment only put the virus in remission for a duration of time. I want it to be inactivated totally ! So how much treatment would be needed, which way is more sure shot, that is what I am trying to determine.........after all there are those who claim they have been cured.........
That is why I also want to do the HBOt too. Give that a shot as well.........
Oceanus, really wish you the very very best with your insufflations. If it does the trick, it will be a victory for us all !!!
I will share whatever else I find vis-a-vis the ozone and oxygen treatments. I can't wait to start with something soon. Life with this virus is becoming unbearable.........But atleast with these treatments we have hope ........
I guess I'm just a little confused about what the difference is between autohemotherapy and ozone intravenously. I understand what autohemotherapy is, but I guess I thought it was the same as intravenous. I suppose both of which involve being hooked up with a needle in your arm.
The reason I chose buying the generator for home use is because I can use it at my convenience and as often as I want without paying $150 per visit, which is how much one visit cost me before. And when he treated me he did it with vaginal insufflation for my herpes. So I figured I can do this myself on my own. As you know from your research and the documentary, there are not very many doctors who treat with ozone in this country, or at least openly where they advertise. The film says that more naturapathic type of practitioners are using it and they are more likely to be open about it because they are not at risk of getting their licenses taken from them.
I agree with you regarding immunity to the virus. I went two years with continual (weekly OBs and daily itching, pain, burning, tingling) outbreaks, and all the while I refused to take drugs, only tried many natural remedies with nothing helping until I tried the Neem and then the coconut oil. Well, the heart burn OTC medicine helped too, but taking that was more like taking acyclovir because I had to take it 3 times a day EVERY DAY and it only barely kept me sane. The coconut oil has helped me the best.
The reason I asked you how long you've had herpes for is because I was wondering if the reason my body is FINALLY responding to some type of natural treatment is because I've had it for over two years. I have read that it is normal for the virus to get less active over time, meaning fewer OBs, due to it sort of running out of energy/steam (maybe viral cells decrease?). But again, there are people who are naturally symptom-free for years and then bam they start getting bad frequent OBs for no apparent reason....so who really knows.
At this point, I am just taking it day by day and week by week, to see how the ozone treatment works for me. I know it will be a long road of regular treatments several times a week for months, so I am going to be patient, yet persistent. Even if I just accomplish pushing my number of OBs to one mild one per year I will be ecstatic because I know how much suffering this has caused me for over two years. The ozone generator cost will be well worth it.
I think getting rid of it or permanently inactivating it requires persistent treatments for a very pro-longed period. It would cost too much to see a doctor and pay them to accomplish what I think I can in my own home on my own.
The other reason, besides being stuburn not to give money to pharm companies, I didn't take them so that as I tried different, natural treatments I would know what was actually helping because I would have daily symptoms, so I would know quickly whether it helped or not. Some people can't really tell what is helping them since they don't get OBs every week or month, so that's at least one advantage to my continual daily pain and suffering, lol!!
Have you looked at this site in the older threads what others have said regarding using ozone and how it helped with their herpes? I think they too did it with vaginal insufflation.
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whichever way you do it, I am glad you have been able to start..........vag insufflation seems to be more highly recommended
for this condition, over doing it rectally. As long as the ozone actually gets to the home of the virus, any way of doing it should be great.
As you asked, I've had the virus now for a bit over 4 years ! But it is only from November ' 06, ie slightly over a year, that it has become a real pain in the @#$% .........Before that, the symptoms were very mild and maybe just 3 times a year ......I would get tiny almost painless blisters in a few same spots..... the timing when I first got them, within a week of being intimate with my first intimate partner - told me that this could be venereal disease in nature..later confirmed by a blood test. However, I've had alot of bad Obs, and almost constant -- for all of this past year...........
I decided after the one year mark passed, that I did not want to depend on my own immunity anymore.........because there was no guarantee of it happening.......
it wouldn't be worth waiting for it if it took even just 4-5years to start controlling the virus for me (too many years out of my life) I had better become proactive in a search for something to really help other than my own immunity......
A strong reason I had for deciding to take acyclovir was because I wanted to prevent the risk of long term permanent damage....I'm sure you've read of post-herpetic neuralgia.....ie sometimes people after getting bad OBs, incur permanent nerve damage and pain ...after reading accounts of several people getting this, I thought it necessary to help minimise that risk......
You are right..the cost effectiveness and convenience of a home generator can't be beaten.......if one wants to try ozone insufflations or saunas or ozonated oil etc, it makes absolutely no sense to pay ridiculous sums for these in a doc's office.
Let me clarify the difference between autohemothrapy and ozone shots. the former, you are correct in your knowledge, is the drawing of one's blood, mixing this blood with ozone in a bag and then reinjecting this mix back into the patient. It is done in Europe, some countries in South East asia (for eg. I read in Korea) , and Cuba etc.......
Ozone injections, on the other hand, are injections of the gas through saline drip or direct infusions of an ozone/oxygen mix,I believe. Ozone shots are thus not the same as autohemotherapy.
Both techniques -autohemo, and injections should be done by a skilled practitioner to avoid any type of risk....
On this website I went through the archives, but couldn't find anybody who did ozone therapy.......the archives don't go back too far I think. I just know what you reported about someone called JazzE..I looked up this member's posts but could not find it. On other herpes websites though, I have read that ozone shots ( like 6- 12 of them at the right dose) have had a high rate of effectiveness.
HBOT which I mentioned before, is another oxygenation therapy where the patient is put inside a chamber with elevated air pressure and given oxygen. The high air pressure forces oxygen into the body much more effectively and at higher doses than can be had through normal breathing. this leads to the body being flooded with oxygen so that every cell may be highly oxygenated.
there have been claims that at a certain pressure and session duration, it has rid people of the virus......
Since ozone is very irritating to the lungs if inhaled, this methodology cannot be employed for ozone.......and thus ozone therapy must be done through the methods you and I already know.
As of now, I am just vigorously searching more on the net. But I plan within a few weeks to start something....if kicking this virus means trying both HBOT and ozone, so be it.......This searching on the net also comprises finding practitioners within the US and near enough to my place. Maybe fewer in number, but my hunt thus far indicates that there are at least some docs for each type of technique in this country. My whole point of all this research is to try to determine which method will most effectively get to the virus hiding in the spine cells.
P.S I joined this website which basically is a place where people share all types of remedies and their experiences for all types of things.....it is like cures in one zone.......It has been quite a resource. I read of another case where another deep sea diver did
HBOT and was cured of warts, which happen to be viral in nature.
And other people reported that monolaurin capsules worked great. Recently I learnt that coconut oil has alot of arginine and taking the coconut oil with its arginine might be upsetting the arginine/lysine balance. Maybe that is why the coconut oil was not working for me..... I guess I will try taking the capsules instead now, like you do cause these avoid the arginine and just concentrate the component with the great antiviral properties.
Some have claimed the great benefits of urine therapy on the sores, others say glutamic acid helps alot too and others say that some pulsing or zapping device has helped..........And there was a report that a new drug BAY-57 being developed will prevent future OBs....This drug is in the testing phase now and might be available in a few years .
But for now my focus will be on therapies for oxygenation and taking
the monolaurin tablets.
About the insufflation, just make sure that the application does not release nitrous oxygen (or it was something like that).....I read that should be avoided. And that raising the body Ph plus eating alkaline foods will further help the process of oxygenation while you are doing insufflations......These are things I read which I thought you might look up...... (HOPE this wasn't information overload ;D )
Well Oceanus, have a great day and keep sharing. Info is our critical resource so let's continue to pool it.
Some very good information, thanks. I don't know if my generator is releasing nitrous oxide. It's only supposed to be releasing ozone...which does have a bit of a weird scent. But I use it next to a window that has a small crack in it, so hopefully it vents outside.
I know that Longevity sells ozone saunas and with those you don't put your head in it, just your lower body. So maybe you would be interested in getting one of those for your home use. It seems to be a popular home ozone device people use. I am part of a message group that is like yea who. I know the one you are talking about.
I thought post-herpetic neuralgia was due to shingles. I wasn't aware it happened with regular herpes.
I never read that the capsule form of coconut oil lacked the arginine part that works against the treatment of herpes, interesting. I have also read about monolaurin capsules and was going to buy them to try, but thought I would first just try the coconut capsules from my neighborhood health store and see if those worked, as they are cheaper. Since they have been working, I don't feel as though they will be necessary.
I thought warts were fungal in nature not viral. I have had regular warts and treated them with antifungal cream, but maybe genital warts are different.
Yeah, if you've had this virus for 4 years and your OBs have gotten worse, then yes, you should be motivated to find a more permanent and effective treatment. I don't want to expect to "cure" myself, but reducing OBs is my first objective, and then we'll go from there. With decrease in OBs that should also lower my chances of spreading the virus to future partners, which is also important to me. Ok, I'm going to go ozonate myself now...ta,ta.
BTW, try doing a search for oxygen and that may reveal some of the posts I have read. I will check it out too, and see.
I have been on ozone therapy 2xdaily by method of vaginal insufflation and funneling of the spine. When it is back in hiding, some are lurking just outside the nerve ganglia, waiting for your immune system to weaken.
It is said that a 3 month treatment in between outbreaks should eradicate the virus. I am convinced with everything I have read on ozone therapy, it does do its job(eradicate) but its a lifetime therapy for me, due to the virus aggressive nature. I WILL NOT ALLOW THIS VIRUS TO TAKE CONTROL OF MY BODY!
Next week,I am starting the H202 therapy program(25days) and stay on a maintenance program thereafter. I am currently on an OB right now, which is very frustrating because I am also trying to stay away from the drugs. This is my second OB, which is worst than the first, but I think its because of other therapies I have been trying that eventually leads to a healing crisis. In order to have a positive reaction, a negative reaction is unavoidable.
I have no one to share my "creepy crawly friends" with, so I appreciate your company.
Thanks.
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Hello again Oceanus,
and Relentless - Welcome to the Club -which none of us wanted an invitation to -
"relentless" is indeed the right spirit to face this virus with............!
Ladies - today's update from me:
Yesterday I did start going through the herpes archives of this site and I realised that I had probably missed alot of it the last time I checked. And Oceanus - I finally did find posts by "JazzyE" and "Nonexist" that you had mentioned in a previous post !! Nonexist in particular, had alot of posts on oxygenation with H2O2 ad DMSO and other oxygen related stuff too. Apparently, quite a few of these previous posters were able to stop OBs by drinking the right amount of liquid oxygen (available at health food stores and online) or doing DMSO with/or H202. There was some really strong support for oxygen and ozone and strong words denouncing its alleged suppression.......I haven't even been through all the archives, maybe just a third of them....but there is alot of good info there...........
In reply to the points in your previous post, Oceanus, warts can be fungal or viral in nature. Genital warts though are caused by a virus - the hpv virus.
Oxygenation is said to kill both types of microbes- both fungal and viral.
And about the monolaurin (or is it lauricidin ?) capsules , well the one I mean
is a concentration of the critical component -lauric acid that has the antiviral
property. Coconuts have lauric acid but arginine also, the latter which you know helps the herpes virus replicate. So I want to take the capsules to avoid
intake of the arginine that maybe is present in coconut oil. The utility of taking lauric acid is that there are claims that over time it weakens or even destroys the lipid envelope of the herpes virus......thus potentially aiding in its inactivation. However Oceanus, since you already have been getting good results with whatever form of coconut/lauric acid you are taking..you need not change it......
As for post-herpetic neuralgia, it may be caused by herpes zoster(shingles) or herpes simplex( the one we have).......In this
neuralgia, basically the herpes virus ends up damaging the nerve it travels down ,thus causing a great deal of pain....the nerve damage, scarily, may even be permanent. This is something for those with constant, severe Obs to think about.
SO glad to know there are an array of options to choose from for oxygenation - liquid oxygen, saunas, HBOT, insufflations, injections, drinking ozonated water and ozonated oil massages........
I think someone's idea to raise body Ph and alkalinity through the right food and/or supplements, and taking immune strengthening supplements as well while doing the therapy is a great one in helping
the whole process of hurting the virus.
Please tell me more about your ozone treatment!! You're the first person on this site I've been able to talk to who used it for herpes. How long have you been using it? And how did you decide that vaginal insufflation and funneling on the spine was the best method? Are you only supposed to do it inbetween OBs or can it be anytime? I suffer with daily symptoms, so maybe the virus will be easily gotten because it seems to ALWAYS be out of hiding in my body!
Have you seen any positive results so far? It sounds like you haven't had herpes for very long if you are now just experiencing your 2nd OB, but maybe the ozone has been helping and keeping them at bay.
Why did you say that you believe it can eradicate the virus in 3 months...but then you say it won't for you and that this will be a lifetime therapy for you? How do you know it won't work for you in 3 months or so? Have you been doing it for that long already?
Thanks for answering all my questions and filling in some blanks for me!! I'd love to know more if you have some information to share on the subject and from personal experience.
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Hi Oceanus,
Sorry I took awhile to reply. I have had 'H' for approximately 6 months now, I have been doing ozone therapy for 2 months. I choose this method because the virus cannot live in an oxygenated enviroment. After reading books by Dr.Pressman and 'Flood your body with oxygen', its seems the most aggressive way to fight this virus. I workout moderately, take supplements, and have a strong belief I can beat this virus. This may sound crazy , but I wake up every morning looking in the mirror and say "You are not taking control of my body, this is war and I am going to wipe you out!!"
I say lifetime because how do we know if we completely eradicated the virus? It only takes one to wait for our immune system to weaken and do its job.(replicate). Yes, it is the same protocol during an OB. The first week of funneling, I had a very large OB in a different area(2nd OB), to be expected because the virus is fighting back. I bought a plastic lounge chair with straps across the back, insert the funnel and lean back. For comfort, I cut some of the silicone tubing, attached it to the circumference of the funnel .
I am very aggressive with my therapy, because like I said, I am going to win this battle. This is my protocol: vaginal insufflation and funneling of the spine 30 to 45 min 2x daily. drinking ozonated water 3x daily, lysine 3x daily.
Vaginal insufflation is most effective when the virus is out to play. Funneling of the spine is most effective when it is in hide out. During an OB, I would double the dose on insufflation, ozonated water and lysine.
I do feel significantly better, I do not feel that small sharp prickly pain all over my body anymore, that was driving me nuts because it was a constant reminder.
I hope this helps you, and I am glad I have someone to compare notes with in regards to ozone therapy.
THANKYOU.
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Longevity Resources (the maker of my ozone generator) told me that for herpes the vaginal insufflation should only be done once a day and 2-3 times a week. It also said not to do vaginal insufflation close to and during your period. I have been following these guidelines. I've only been doing the vaginal insufflation for a about 3 weeks now, but haven't started on the funneling yet. Thanks for telling me about your protocol and how you do the funneling. I am not looking forward to trying to figure out a way to keep the funnel in place. I thought I might just lay on my stomach and lay it on my lower back, but it might not stay in place good enough this way.
Since I have symptoms every day, it's as though the virus is ALWAYS out of hiding in my body, so maybe the vaginal insufflation will be enough and do a number on the virus without doing the funneling. I will just stick with the insufflation for now and see. I do find that I have been doing better and better for the most part. I do sometimes feel as though the day after I do a treatment that I have a bit more symptoms. I may be feeling better in general because of my consistent use of extra virgin coconut oil supplements I take every day for the past 3 months. Have you tried taking that yet? I really recommend them. I used to take 6-9 supplements per day, spread out in the day during the hours I eat, but nowadays I usually only take 3 supplements once per day because my symptoms are milder and don't progress as fast or get as severe.
You haven't had the virus for very long and it sounds as though you are having some type of symptoms most days, as you described the prickly feeling all over your body. I know that feeling you are describing. I used to get the same feeling in the bottoms of my feet all the time. It was a constant reminder. On tope of it, as the day progressed symptoms would always set in by mid-late afternoon and get worse and worse by night. This is still the case, but in a MUCH milder form. I have tried taking Lysine, but it never seemed to do anything. I have read info on the health benefits of coconut oil in killing viruses including herpes and HIV. I would really recommend adding it to your protocol. I recently read some very credible scholarly papers on the subject online.
I doubt the ozone treatments are why I am doing better, as I feel about the same for the most past as before I started the ozone. I think it has more to do with my consistent use of coconut oil supplements.
Please keep me and all of us updated on your progress, and I will do the same.
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I have the same generator and was told the same thing about insufflations, 2 to 3 times a week at 1/4 lpm for 5 min. I personally spoke to a doctor with 20yrs experience in ozone therapy. If you keep the lpm at 1/32, you can do insufflations everyday and the therapy is more effective in staying in your blood stream. You may feel considerable pain during the process but should feel no pain when it is eradicated. I also feel more symtoms after the therapy and was told by the doctor it is to be expected. I also feel it is important to believe in the therapy for it to work. Thankyou for your coconut oil suggestion, I will start on it tomorrow. Until next posting.
Relentless ,
do you know about the hpv virus ? It can cause cervical and some other cancers in women depending on location of exposure . People with herpes have a higher risk of cancer from the hpv virus if they also have the hpv virus alongwith the herpes........Pap smears are done for this specific reason, that is to test for cervical cancer in women.
Do you think your ozone specialist with 20 yrs experience would know whether ozone therapy might eradicate the hpv virus in those that have it ?
I would love to know the answer to that.............
thanks
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yes, it is effective on HPV, cervical cancer as well as cervical dysplasia. It is the same protocol, 1/32 lpm 30min daily.
It is not advised to continue therapy around your period due to increase of blood flow. I tried it before, during and after my period with no changes. I am relentless with my treatment. I started on the coconut oil today.
I have a real concern right now that I hope you can answer quickly, as I have been in pain for a week now. I do not know if this pain is caused from my ozone vaginal insufflations or not, but would like to know your take on it. You said you have been in contact with an ozone practitioner and mentioned that pain is expected during the process. Could you elaborate on this more please? I have had abdominal on-going pain for eight days now and have an appointment to see a doctor on Monday. Could this be due to the ozone treatments? What type of pain do you mean?
I realize that the herpes symptoms are expected to get worse during the killing off period from the treatments, but this pain I am experiencing is not herpes related. I have a slight fever as well and the pain is constant, but sometimes it gets worse. I wonder if I may have been over-doing the ozone regiment as I have been putting the oxygen tank setting on 1/4, but doing the treatment for 30 minutes at a time, not the recommended 5 minutes. I do it about 3X/week as is recommended. Maybe I shouldn't do it for so long at this setting? I know you said you do it for 30 minutes 2X/day, but at the 1/32 setting. Please give me some advise as to what the expected type of pain is and what I should do to adjust the ozone treatments or maybe stop for a while.
I will check for you, but I do know that 1/4 for 30min is way way toooo much. Are you also using a humidifier from longevity, the little glass bubbler? It is to prevent dryness in the vaginal area that does cause pain in the abdomen. I experienced that the first time I did insufflation without humidifying. Hope you are okay and I will get back with you soon!!
take good care,
relentless
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