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Old 10-04-2012, 02:56 PM   #1
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HSV-2 and testing

i'm hoping someone can help me out a little bit. I was possibly exposed to HSV-2 sometime in mid to late july or early august. I had some symptoms a week or two after, but they were barely noticeable and i ignored them. I've had some blisters on and off since then, and they do not develop in clumps like described. I finally gained the courage to go see a doctor after doing TONS of research. I got my HSV 1 and 2 IgG/IGM antibody test done two days ago (Oct 2nd) and got results today (Oct 4th). I was <0.90 for both HSV I and II which is considered negative, but the results did not show my exact numbers. The test was performed by Quest Diagnostics. It has been anywhere from 2-3 months since I have been potentially exposed and since I started getting these blisters, but it doesn't appear to be HSV I or II. I didn't have any blisters at the time I had the test done so there were none to examine. What could this possibly be? Any advice? THANK YOU!

 
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Old 10-04-2012, 04:54 PM   #2
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Re: HSV-2 and testing

Do you know if the test was a 'type specific test for HSV1 and HSV2'? The IGG test is the one you want, ignore and don't get the IGM which is not an accurate test for moder day herpes testing but labs will still take your money if a doc orders it!
I would call quest or the doctor who ordered it and ask them if you got the right test and the numerical values. Sometimes the test shows colums with shaded areas for "out of range" or "in range" and can be difficult to interpret by a non medical person.

USUALLY 3 - 4 months is enough time for your body to build up the antibodies which is detected in the test. But some people take longer and some shorter.
If you can get the numbers it would help. Doctors will usually retest a few weeks/months later if the IGG value is less than 3.5.

If you do have the blisters or any other signs, you could also get them swabbed and "typed' for HSV.

Just make sure you get the right testing done. Tell them no combo tests or IGM!
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Old 10-05-2012, 09:48 PM   #3
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Re: HSV-2 and testing

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Do you know if the test was a 'type specific test for HSV1 and HSV2'? The IGG test is the one you want, ignore and don't get the IGM which is not an accurate test for moder day herpes testing but labs will still take your money if a doc orders it!
I would call quest or the doctor who ordered it and ask them if you got the right test and the numerical values. Sometimes the test shows colums with shaded areas for "out of range" or "in range" and can be difficult to interpret by a non medical person.

USUALLY 3 - 4 months is enough time for your body to build up the antibodies which is detected in the test. But some people take longer and some shorter.
If you can get the numbers it would help. Doctors will usually retest a few weeks/months later if the IGG value is less than 3.5.

If you do have the blisters or any other signs, you could also get them swabbed and "typed' for HSV.

Just make sure you get the right testing done. Tell them no combo tests or IGM!
Yes, the test was type-specific. It showed that I was negative for both HSV I and HSV II. I will see if I can get the exact values.

As for the interpretation, it was very straight forward. It showed both HSV I and II were <0.90 and NEGATIVE. There were no columns. The doctor also confirmed and told me himself that the results were negative.

Does anyone know if because I have low antibodies that the virus isn't as strong? Like for instance, if I actually did have it, is it possible that it would be unlikely for me to transmit because it's not even showing up on antibody tests and its been so long since my potential exposure? I haven't really had any sexual contact since, I'm just curious.

 
Old 10-06-2012, 07:17 PM   #4
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Re: HSV-2 and testing

If you have herpes then the likelihood of passing it to someone else is entirely *unrelated* to the amount of herpes antibodies your body has built. Stated differently: if a person has herpes, the amount of antibodies in their system bears no relationship to how 'strong' the disease is. Your body makes antibodies to fight the disease. A person with a compromised immune system might have a low number of antibodies (because of their weak immune system), which would make herpes outbreaks very severe since their body is unable to fight it, which in turn would increase the likelihood of infecting a sexual partner.

You might have a low number of antibodies because it has been only two months since your exposure. Then again, you might have a low number because you are *not* infected.

I recently discovered that fungal infections are often misdiagnosed as herpes, which is what happened to me. Two years ago, I was visually diagnosed with herpes, and the diagnosis was confirmed with a test that involved looking at cells under a microscope to identify herpes markers. A urologist also confirmed the diagnosis by inspecting the area, and then refused to order blood tests stating that it would be a waste of money.

After an outbreak a few months ago, I went to another Dr. seeking a prescription for Valtrex. This new doc said, "that's not herpes, its a fungal infection." She was quite sure, and she prescribed a cream that cleared it all right up. I asked her for blood tests because of the prior diagnoses. My IGG Herpes Select came back at 0.2 for type I and <0.2 for type II. Mine was also done by Quest Diagnostics. I'm looking at it now, and it shows a "result" column to the left of the "Ref. Range" column, which like yours, shows < 0.9. Are you sure there is not also a "result" column to the left?

Anyway, its possible you have herpes, but so far your blood tests would indicate that you don't. You should get re-tested in another 2 to 4 months. If, after 4+ months the tests are still negative, then its very improbable that you have herpes (unless there is something wrong with your immune system, but you haven't stated anything that would indicate that).

In the meantime, go see a doc and try to get a diagnosis of what the sores actually are. They can grow a culture if its herpes. If its a fungal infection, then you will want to get that treated, which generally can be easily cured. It could also be any number of other things that Dr.'s sometimes mistake for herpes. If you can't get an accurate diagnosis, then see a different Dr., and consider a specialist like a dermatologist. In my opinion, younger Dr.'s recently out of med school can be better at diagnosing than older Dr.'s who think they've been around and have seen it all.

 
Old 10-06-2012, 07:19 PM   #5
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Re: HSV-2 and testing

If you have herpes then the likelihood of passing it to someone else is entirely *unrelated* to the amount of herpes antibodies your body has built. Stated differently: if a person has herpes, the amount of antibodies in their system bears no relationship to how 'strong' the disease is. Your body makes antibodies to fight the disease. A person with a compromised immune system might have a low number of antibodies (because of their weak immune system), which would make herpes outbreaks very severe since their body is unable to fight it, which in turn would increase the likelihood of infecting a sexual partner.

You might have a low number of antibodies because it has been only two months since your exposure. Then again, you might have a low number because you are *not* infected.

I recently discovered that fungal infections are often misdiagnosed as herpes, which is what happened to me. Two years ago, I was visually diagnosed with herpes, and the diagnosis was confirmed with a test that involved looking at cells under a microscope to identify herpes markers. A urologist also confirmed the diagnosis by inspecting the area, and then refused to order blood tests stating that it would be a waste of money.

After an outbreak a few months ago, I went to another Dr. seeking a prescription for Valtrex. This new doc said, "that's not herpes, its a fungal infection." She was quite sure, and she prescribed a cream that cleared it all right up. I asked her for blood tests because of the prior diagnoses. My IGG Herpes Select came back at 0.2 for type I and <0.2 for type II. Mine was also done by Quest Diagnostics. I'm looking at it now, and it shows a "result" column to the left of the "Ref. Range" column, which like yours, shows < 0.9. Are you sure there is not also a "result" column to the left?

Anyway, its possible you have herpes, but so far your blood tests would indicate that you don't. You should get re-tested in another 2 to 4 months. If, after 4+ months the tests are still negative, then its very improbable that you have herpes (unless there is something wrong with your immune system, but you haven't stated anything that would indicate that).

In the meantime, go see a doc and try to get a diagnosis of what the sores actually are. They can grow a culture if its herpes. If its a fungal infection, then you will want to get that treated, which generally can be easily cured. It could also be any number of other things that Dr.'s sometimes mistake for herpes. If you can't get an accurate diagnosis, then see a different Dr., and consider a specialist like a dermatologist. In my opinion, younger Dr.'s recently out of med school can be better at diagnosing than older Dr.'s who think they've been around and have seen it all.

 
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