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Old 11-01-2016, 02:29 PM   #1
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Cholesterol numbers

Hello all. I am a 40 year old male. Just a quick history. I am pretty active. I walk an hour a day and also go to gym 3 days a week. I consider myself in fair shape. Got a long way to go though. Been doing the healthy lifestyle for a solid year. With that history out of the way i need some opinions from you all. My Family Doc told me i need cholesterol meds. O am currently on low dose of BP meds but about to stop it. All my exercise has pretty much taken care of my BP issues. Anyway, he said he wants me on cholesterol medicine . My numbers are
Total...222
LDL....162
HDL....40
TRI.......99
BLOOD SUGAR.....100
Now, my issue is i am trying to get off of the meds not start on more lol. I fo have a very high stress career. A couple friends said that my numbers are not that bad for meds. Whats you alls opinions? Also, i rejected the meds and advised him i wanted to follow a better diet and go back middle of December and redo blood work. Thoughts?

 
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Old 11-02-2016, 02:18 AM   #2
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Re: Cholesterol numbers

These are your ratios compared to the values considered good:

Your HDL 5.5, looking for <4.5

Your LDL 4.0, looking for <3.2

Your Trig 2.5 looking for <2.0

Have you considered OTC supplements? Many of us have had success with them. If interested, there are many posts here where those supplements are identified and how to take them. Look for Flush Niacin, Red Yeast Rice and Omega 3 oils for HDL, LDL and Trigs respectively.

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Old 11-02-2016, 10:26 AM   #3
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Re: Cholesterol numbers

I totally agree with Tess.
Your LDL is slightly raised so looking to change your diet makes good sense.
For lowering LDL look to follow the Mediterranean diet. This diet cannot be beaten for achieving optimum lipid levels for people without inheritable cholesterol disorders. Follow diet for three months and re-test. Take from there. Good luck.

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Old 11-02-2016, 09:25 PM   #4
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I totally agree with Tess.
Your LDL is slightly raised so looking to change your diet makes good sense.
For lowering LDL look to follow the Mediterranean diet. This diet cannot be beaten for achieving optimum lipid levels for people without inheritable cholesterol disorders. Follow diet for three months and re-test. Take from there. Good luck.

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Old 11-03-2016, 09:35 AM   #5
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Re: Cholesterol numbers

Whoops! sorry,

I should have written:
May I suggest before taking supplements, look into following the Mediterranean diet....................

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Old 11-03-2016, 09:38 AM   #6
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Hello all. I am a 40 year old male. Just a quick history. I am pretty active. I walk an hour a day and also go to gym 3 days a week. I consider myself in fair shape. Got a long way to go though. Been doing the healthy lifestyle for a solid year. With that history out of the way i need some opinions from you all. My Family Doc told me i need cholesterol meds. O am currently on low dose of BP meds but about to stop it. All my exercise has pretty much taken care of my BP issues. Anyway, he said he wants me on cholesterol medicine . My numbers are
Total...222
LDL....162
HDL....40
TRI.......99
BLOOD SUGAR.....100
Now, my issue is i am trying to get off of the meds not start on more lol. I fo have a very high stress career. A couple friends said that my numbers are not that bad for meds. Whats you alls opinions? Also, i rejected the meds and advised him i wanted to follow a better diet and go back middle of December and redo blood work. Thoughts?

 
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Old 11-03-2016, 09:40 AM   #7
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Re: Cholesterol numbers

I strive for 100 ldl and over 60 for hdl.

162 ldl much too high.

 
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Old 11-03-2016, 10:52 AM   #8
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I strive for 100 ldl and over 60 for hdl.
162 ldl much too high.

Not if you figure the ratios, which are the most important values. Most cardiologists don't do this, which is one of the reasons so many people are put on Statins . . . and a good many of them when they don't need them!

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Old 11-03-2016, 01:40 PM   #9
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I strive for 100 ldl and over 60 for hdl.

162 ldl much too high.
The UK guideline LDL figure for people with heart conditions equates to 100mg/dl, otherwise the general guideline figure is 3mmol/L (116mg/dl).

If you strive for 60mg/dl HDL then great, as all Cholesterol ratios are equated using the High Density Lipoprotein.
High HDL tends to indicate large buoyant particles (HDL2b) which flush (mop up) small and large dense particle LDL quite easily thereby presenting a very low risk of arterial plaque build-up.

During recent years it has been found that large buoyant LDL particles (pattern A) pose little or no risk to the formation of arterial plaque and could even be beneficial for the vascular system, whether the LDL level is high or low.

However, when one has small dense particle LDL, high Trigs and low HDL, the formation of plaque is fairly rapid (~9% growth year on year) when accompanied with for example, Hypertension.

The three ratios evaluated prior to prescribing a patient a statin in importance order are:... Trigs/HDL, LDL/HDL and then TC/HDL. However many GP's still only refer to the TC/HDL ratio which is the least accurate prediction of heart disease development within a ten year period.


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Old 11-03-2016, 01:45 PM   #10
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The UK guideline LDL figure for people with heart conditions equates to 100mg/dl, otherwise the general guideline figure is 3mmol/L (116mg/dl).

If you strive for 60mg/dl HDL then great, as all Cholesterol ratios are equated using the High Density Lipoprotein.
High HDL tends to indicate large buoyant particles (HDL2b) which flush (mop up) small and large dense particle LDL quite easily thereby presenting a very low risk of arterial plaque build-up.

During recent years it has been found that large buoyant LDL particles (pattern A) pose little or no risk to the formation of arterial plaque and could even be beneficial for the vascular system, whether the LDL level is high or low.

However, when one has small dense particle LDL, high Trigs and low HDL, the formation of plaque is fairly rapid (~9% growth year on year) when accompanied with for example, Hypertension.

The three ratios evaluated prior to prescribing a patient a statin in importance order are:... Trigs/HDL, LDL/HDL and then TC/HDL. However many GP's still only refer to the TC/HDL ratio which is the least accurate prediction of heart disease development within a ten year period.


Yack.
So in my case with tge numbers i listed, i should lower my LDL if i am reading and understanding the above right.

 
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Old 11-03-2016, 01:54 PM   #11
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Re: Cholesterol numbers

Lassiter1011

Correct, your other profile figures are over border fine.

Try the Med. diet first. Believe me your body will appreciate you if you do.

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Old 11-03-2016, 02:45 PM   #12
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Im gonna research that diet. Thanks

 
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