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Old 01-25-2004, 02:35 PM   #1
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I'm confused about food labeling!

Hope some of you "veterans" of the cholesterol war can help me. My husband just got his cholesterol test back and it was 244. Mine was 217. So now we're both trying to lower our cholesterol with diet and excercise. I'm confused about what foods are okay and which to avoid after reading the nutrition labels on packaged foods. For instance, tuna packed in spring water (I thought this was a good, healthy choice) listed total cholesterol at 30mg. But Skippy Honey Nut peanut butter (which has partially hydrogenated veg oil and corn syrup) lists 0 mg Cholesterol. Foods that I think are a no-no have 0 mg Choles. , while foods that I think would be okay have higher chol. What's the story?

 
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Re: I'm confused about food labeling!

Hi!
I know exactly what your saying.I too am confused on food labeling.I went to the store to purchase a pack of turkey breast,which is supposed to be okay and next to the turkey was ham and out of curiosity I compared labels and the turkey actually had more cholesterol and saturated fat than the ham.Could someone please help us people out on translating food labels?

 
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Re: I'm confused about food labeling!

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Originally Posted by Kaycee41
Hope some of you "veterans" of the cholesterol war can help me. My husband just got his cholesterol test back and it was 244. Mine was 217. So now we're both trying to lower our cholesterol with diet and excercise. I'm confused about what foods are okay and which to avoid after reading the nutrition labels on packaged foods. For instance, tuna packed in spring water (I thought this was a good, healthy choice) listed total cholesterol at 30mg. But Skippy Honey Nut peanut butter (which has partially hydrogenated veg oil and corn syrup) lists 0 mg Cholesterol. Foods that I think are a no-no have 0 mg Choles. , while foods that I think would be okay have higher chol. What's the story?
Kaycee,

There are still plenty of debates going on about whether the cholesterol in foods directly can correlate to elevated cholesterol in us. To be quite honest, what worked for me (taking my cholesterol from 269 down to at one point 96 total) was a reduction in a)the amount of calories I was taking in b)reduction in total fat, with emphasis on minimizing saturated fat and increasing monounsaturated fats, c) controlled the carb intake and focused more on carbs from vegetables. Some people have great success with Atkins, or South Beach, but for me, low fat has been most beneficial--each of us probably requires a different diet that is most beneficial to the lipid profile.

One of my favorite sources of protein is the tuna you mentioned above. On days when I am not getting enough protein, I will open up a pack of tuna and eat it. I avoid the peanut butter because of the high caloric load. Nowadays, I pay the most attention to two things only, whether its reasonable for me calorie-wise and if its high fat, I eat less of it.

For me, exercise helped the most in three areas 1. raising HDL-C, the good cholesterol. 2. Lowering triglycerides 3. Lowering weight. Because of the weight loss, though, there was a further impact in lowering blood pressure (no more hypertension), reversing diabetes (no more meds, nor any detectable glucose tolerance issues), lowering LDL-C but most likely only slightly. The whole picture (diet, exercise, weight loss) benefits the lipid profile, in my experience, and neglecting one area will not give you the benefits gained by working all areas.

In regard to turkey vs. ham. For me, everything in moderation is fine. I no longer worry to much about food A which may have 6 g fat, 4 g saturated vs food B which may have 7 g fat, 2 g saturated. In the grand scheme of it all, moderation has been the key. My past scenario would have been go to an all you can eat diner and get the prime rib and crab legs. I would then woof down 4 plates of prime rib (at least 8 oz each), and at least 3 snow crab clusters with drawn butter. Clearly, there was a problem. Now, I aim for 3-6 oz of meat at dinner, where 3 oz would be for chicken and 6 oz when I eat finish. I do, however, avoid trans fats (hydrogenated oils) as much as possible.

I still use an online program called ****** to track my foods, exercise, weight and caloric intake. That gives me the best idea as to how I am doing intake wise. It also compares it to the RDA, or you can set your own goals/target ranges.

When I kept my total fat intake to under 30 g per day with < 6 g saturated fats, I had total cholesterol levels near 100 mg/dL. My HDL-C was a little too low. I increased the fat intake to 60 g/day with <20 g sat fat and I now have the best total/HDL-C ratios that I have ever had. Fats aren't totally evil, but for some people (e.g. me) the fat intake can have a significant impact on my lipoprotein levels.

 
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Re: I'm confused about food labeling!

Many processed foods have transfat in them. Partially hydrogenated and hydrogenated oils are a big no-no. Just because a label may say 0 cholesterol it doesn't mean it is good for you. Look at Fig Newtons they have 0 cholesterol but are a highly processed food with refined sugars and flours and some other nasty ingredients. Because they have 0 cholesterol does NOT make them healthy. If you can't pronounce the ingredient or have never heard of it then it probably isn't very good for your health or nutritious for that matter. Your consumption of processed and refined foods should be elimated to help you to reduce your cholesterol. Exercise is also important.

Many experts are beginning to realize that saturated fats (coconut oil,meats, dairy,eggs ect...) are not the bad guys that they have been made out to be. The real villians here are vegetable oil, soy oil, canola oil,corn oil, cottonseed oil and margarines. These are all very processed and at very high temps to boot. Fake foods should have no place in our diets as they are experimental, and guess who the ginuea pigs are?

Buy all natural peanut butter with no artifical ingredients or better yet buy organic which has no GMO peanuts used or pesticides.

 
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Re: I'm confused about food labeling!

Kaycee,

I agree completely with what ubernier posted.

Let me amplify on the nutrition lists:
The worries over dietary cholesterol were overblown decades ago when the Framingham study showed a high correlation between blood cholesterol and heart disease. The connection is VERY real BUT the response of lowering dietary cholesterol was a mistake...and the FDA and USDA are VERY loathe to admit mistakes....thus the ubiquitous cholesterol labelling.

The liver has a feedback mechanism that causes the copious manufature of cholesterol in the absence of dietary cholesterol.
Study after study has shown a low correlation between dietary and blood cholesterol but a high correlation between SATURATED FAT and blood cholesterol...and an even HIGHER correlation with TRANS FATS (hydrogenated oils.)

So, I recommend ignoring the cholesterol number but keeping saturated fat calories to 10% or less of the diet. Just multiply grams on label time 9 for the saturated fat calories.

Thus the Tuna is wonderful for the heart and the Skippy (with hydrogenated peanut and soy oils) is DEADLY!
Grind-your-own peanut butter is really the only safe way to enjoy the stuff (and then its a healthy high protein snack)

 
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