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Old 05-12-2004, 07:24 PM   #1
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Dash Diet



I am a 41 yo female who has had these results after 3 months of the DASH (Dietary Approaches to Stop Hypertension) diet and 20 mg Lipitor daily:

1/17/04 4/14/04

TC 215 116
HDL 41 44
LDL 155 55
TG ? 81


Along with the DASH diet and Lipitor, I am walking 60 minutes most days and trying to consume 1 glass of red wine daily. I plan to add fish oil, daily oatmeal, and maybe policosanol to try to improve my HDL level. My doctor has decreased the Lipitor to 10 mg per day - I will be imterested in seeing if that changes my numbers much.

Has anyone had success raising HDL levels?

 
Old 05-13-2004, 03:44 AM   #2
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Re: Dash Diet

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I am a 41 yo female who has had these results after 3 months of the DASH (Dietary Approaches to Stop Hypertension) diet and 20 mg Lipitor daily:

1/17/04 4/14/04

TC 215 116
HDL 41 44
LDL 155 55
TG ? 81

Has anyone had success raising HDL levels?
Yes, I took mine from 25 mg/dL to 70 mg/dL. In January 2002, I was on about 7 prescrip meds my TC: 170, LDL: 114, HDL: 25, TG: 155. By August 2002, I had dropped 40 lbs, was walking and my profile was TC: 96, LDL: 44, HDL: 36, TG: 82. After I started running and reaching ideal weight 30 lbs lower in April 2003 at 155 lbs, my TC:143, LDL: 67, HDL: 70, TG:31.

You will see that when I first did my changes to my lifestyle, my cholesterol profile changed similar to yours. A huge drop in total cholesterol (mine hit 96 mg/dL), while HDL stayed about the same. Whatever you are doing is right You took your TC to about half of what it once was and your TG dropped from about 95 to 81, while you kept you elevated slightly your HDL. That's partly due to exercise.

What can you expect? Well, I have a feeling that if you can start to increase the exercise level that you do daily (for example, I run 3 miles daily...about 24 min of time), then your HDL will climb up. The way I ended up with an HDL>LDL had to do partly with the running, and partly with upping the fats in my diet--I will try to explain below.

The thing to keep in mind is that on a low fat diet, you won't have as high HDL, but you won't have a high LDL either based on what I see of your numbers. If you keep up the exercise and up your dietary fat, I would expect your LDL and HDL to go up, but your ratio would still remain fine. There is a linkage between the exercise increasing the lipoprotein lipase, which results in higher HDL values as you increase the dietary fat, and the more trained your muscles are, the larger the HDL increase. That doesn't mean that we should all go out, run marathons, and eat huge amounts of fat--that won't make one healthier either.

I should mention, since you are working on DASH, that I had 3 hypertension meds before I started my lifestyle change. I no longer take any prescription meds and provided I keep up the exercise and keep my weight < 170 lbs, my bp stays below 120/80. At my current weight of 160 lbs, I average around 100-110/60-70.

Good Luck!

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Old 05-13-2004, 09:54 AM   #3
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Re: Dash Diet

Your results are very encouraging to me! That's incredible to go from an HDL of 25 to 70 without medication - you are doing so well.

I have a family history of cardiovascular problems on both sides of my family and have been worried that no lifestyle changes will help prevent me from suffering the same fate.

I will add more unsaturated fats and try to walk even more. So far I have lost about 24 pounds and hope to lose another 50.

t is hard to be patient but with time maybe the HDL level will go up. And I am currently on two BP medicines that I hope to eventually not have to take.

Thanks!!

 
Old 05-13-2004, 11:32 AM   #4
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My numbers were almost identical to your original test results. I went on a low carb diet which greatly lowered my LDL level, but I also started taking 1000 mg fish oil three times a day. My HDL went from 41 to 69 in eight months. Your LDL should still be quite low with 10 mg Lipitor. You might get by on less.

 
Old 05-14-2004, 05:55 AM   #5
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Re: Dash Diet

phreddy,

My HDL started at 28 (with a TC/HDL ratio of over 9). Lipitor took it up to 35 (for a 25% increase)...not good enough.
Adding fish oil (cod liver) and lecithin, my HDL went to 58 where it hovers today.

(The 28 got me a blockage and a stent!)
My ratio is less than 2 now.

Your LDL is SOOOO low with the 20 mg Lipitor, why not consider whacking them in two. Ten mg. works nearly as well and has fewer side effects....(and costs half as much )

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Old 05-14-2004, 12:39 PM   #6
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Re: Dash Diet

That is also good news about HDL level improvement! My doctor thinks it is largely genetic and not much can be done to improve it (a glass or two of red wine a day was his only suggestion). But that may be based on his experience with people around here (NW Indiana), who eat little else besides meat and potatoes.

When I bought a bag of snow peas at our local grocery store, a clerk asked if they were turnips!! She doesn't ring up much produce!

I picked up some fish oil capsules today and plan to take 1200 mg 3 times a day!

My new prescription for Lipitor is for 10 mg/day - once I see what my new lipid levels are in 2 months when I go back to the doctor, I could cut those in two if he decides to still prescribe them. I think I am being careful enough with my diet that I should not need much if any Lipitor (if I can keep it up - I am determined right now!).

Thank you!

 
Old 05-14-2004, 02:27 PM   #7
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It sounds like you have set a wise course. My doctor is trying fish oil himself. It does not seem to work for everyone. My son tried it and got no increase at all, and his is 28. He is a distance runner though and I think the strenuous exercise has already raised his HDL as much as it is going to go. Some doctors seem to be prescribing strong doses of statin when a much smaller dose would do. My husband cut his 10 mg in half and is now going to cut them into quarters. A 2.5 mg pill should give a 25% reduction.

 
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