Lp(a) - High Cholesterol Message Board

bigdobe · 08-11-2004, 06:10 PM

I am feeling a bit blue today! My Lp(a) has slowly increased over the last five years from 130 to 150 (desirable is low and certainly less than 30). My energetic and intense cardiologist "refuses to chase after this lipoprotein when so little is know about it!". Her goal is to focus on the LDL. Through the years I have made substantial improvement in my various lipid parameters:

Cholesterol from 290 and now 163
LDL from 235 to 90
Triglycerides from 200 to 107
HDL from 60 to 52 !!! Too Bad!!

Lipitor 30 mg/day and weight loss of 30 lbs
Many risk factors .......age (70 but I still love life and dogs), hypertension and peripheral vascular disease.

We all suspect that the statins may increase the Lp(a) (in a few susceptible folks) and yet it is so effective in lowering the LDL. Your thoughts are always of great value to me

ARIZONA73 · 08-11-2004, 08:06 PM

That is really a dangerously high level. So, your cardiologist thinks that not much is known about Lp(a)? Where has he been? There are currently over 1100 mainstream scientific and medical journal articles that document the risk of heart disease caused by lipoprotein(a) cholesterol. But conventional medicine doesn't have any solutions to this problem, which is probably why your doctor is ducking the issue. My advice to you is to look into the Pauling Therapy for treating heart disease. He addresses the issue of lipoprotein(a) as the primary cause of atherosclerotic heart disease. His recommendation for high risk patients is to take 6 grams of Vitamin C, and 6 grams of lysine. You can also include 1.5g proline. Proline and lysine are both lipoprotein(a) binders, and can prevent Lp(a) from depositing as plaque in your arteries. Vitamin C, in high doses, can restore the health of your arteries. Give it a try! I wish you well.

NHone · 08-11-2004, 08:35 PM

I was just going to give you the same reply that arizonia gave you concerning Linus Paulding and Matthias Rath. Lp(a) is more important than any of the other cholesterol numbers. Causes of high Lp(a) are kidney disease and certain family (genetic) lipid disorders. A normal range on Lp(a) is less than 30 mg/dl. Now you can see why most doctors are off base on their cholesterol analysis. Your starting cholesterol counts were fine by cholesterol ratios, now they are even lower. However most doctors never consider Lp(a) and homocysteine. You need to have you Apolipoprotein A1 tested as well as Apolipoprotein B (Apo B), Homocysteine, fibrinogen, Ultra Sensitive C-Reactive Protein (US-CRP) also called high sensitivity CRP. These other tests will give you a better picture of what is going on. Look these up yourself and give these to your doctor. Most times they don't have the time (or take the time) to read things. Statin (or any cholesterol) medications are not what people are lead to believe.

rahod · 08-11-2004, 08:35 PM

Arizona you just posted this!

Here is some information about a study carried out in India in 1999, which demonstrated an Lp(a)-lowering effect of hydrosoluble Coenzyme Q10. Other positive benefits were noted as well, such as an overall increase in HDL, etc.

[url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_u ids=10077397&dopt=Abstract[/url]

NHone · 08-11-2004, 09:19 PM

Thats very intestesting about the Co Q10. Its also intestering that ALL statins are known to deplete CoQ10. In recent studies from Cornell, Lipitor can do this in a little as 14 days. In Canada they are required to put a warning on the statin drugs that they are know to deplete CoQ10.