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Old 11-06-2005, 01:48 AM   #1
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hi folks

i had a heart attack last dec 2004 and had a stent put in. i dont have any health insurance and i am start to notice that i have these same cholestrol bumps appearing on my body again

is there a natural or herbal cholestrol that can help immedeatly take care of this

i am over weight smoke to much and prob have high blood pressure and or diabeties ??? not sure of spelling

any help and or directions will be greatly arrpeciated my age is 41

tkx

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Old 11-06-2005, 05:15 AM   #2
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Go out and by the book "Stop The Inflammation Now" It has many case studies about people with stents and all of the things you named above. I'd like to tell you all the things you could do but it would be too much writing amd the book is dirt cheap like 5.99. It is written by Richard M Fleming. He is a nucleur cardiologist..Lisa

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Old 11-06-2005, 05:45 AM   #3
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gipsie,

CHolesterol lumps on the skin are not a common condition. What makes you think you have them?
Are you talking about something like sebaceous cysts?
What are your blood cholesterol numbers like?

 
Old 11-06-2005, 10:32 AM   #4
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the reason that i know these are cholestrol bumps is that i have had this happen to ne within 24 months

i cant get to a doctor because of the cost with no insurance

so i have to try to do this with natural/herbal

when they put my stent in they said that i had a real fatty liver and still have digestion problems and gall problems

so i must research on the net to find solutions

tkx

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Old 11-06-2005, 05:22 PM   #5
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Gipsiefire, I'm sorry that you don't have any health insurance. IMO, that is one of the big problems we face right now in the U.S. However, there are some things you can (and need) to do on your own. Since you have already had one heart attack, why haven't you stopped smoking? I know it's extremely difficult, but we're talking about your life here!! If you continue to smoke, you are dramatically increasing your risk for a repeat heart attack. If you continue to do what you did in the past, you will end up with the same results in the future. I would recommend:

1)Read "The 8 Week Cholesterol Cure" by Robert Kowalski.
2)Stop smoking
3)Start walking around the block and eventually increase to 2 miles/day
4)Eat plenty of fruits/vegetables, get plenty of fiber and drink lots of water.
5)Get to a doctor and have your cholesterol checked regularly, even if you have to pay yourself or use your credit card. That way, you can monitor your progress. In fact, you could use the money that you once spent on cigarettes to pay for the checkups to your doctor.

 
Old 11-06-2005, 05:57 PM   #6
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I agree with everything danielmpage said.

I don't know what your financial situation is, but IMHO one's health should be high on the priority list when it comes to budgeting. I may have health insurance, but with a $1500 deductible, I may as well not have. Only twice in eleven years have I met my deductible, and then insurance only covered a couple of hundred dollars. I'm retired on social security and a very modest pension. But, like daniel said, one's health is one's life. So I may drive a 1986 car, never go to movies or take a trip and rarely eat out, but I do go to the doctor as needed.

Maybe your financial situation is even worse than mine. But please see if you can't juggle your budget, get rid of that cigarette cost, and use the savings to see a doctor for appropriate tests. Depending upon the results, you may be able to make the changes you need through diet and other lifestyle changes alone. Be sure you TELL the doctor that your budget is very limited, so he will try to help you find ways to solve your problems without meds if possible. In the event that doesn't work and you need prescription medication, the doctors are often provided with samples you can pick up if you need to. Also some of the pharmaceutical companies have special programs for reduced-cost medications if you are low-income.

 
Old 11-07-2005, 10:50 PM   #7
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When I read posts like the above ones, I realize just how broken health insurance is in this country. Seems like the only ones who have good coverage are the President, the Congress and the Senate. Hmmmm, maybe that (plus massive campaign contributions from pharmas and insurance companies) are why the govt continues to do absolutely nothing to address the problem.

I urge everyone to write their Congressman and Senator and urge them to start moving in the direction of a government sponsored, single payer health care system - aka: national health care.

The health care system in this country is broken. 46 million have no health insurance, and god only knows how many are uninsured.

Corporations can't pickup the ever escalating cost any longer - the government HAS to get involved.

I'm relatively lucky in that my wife and I both work. However, my company just significantly boosted the employee's share of health insurance costs (again) and in a worst-case scenario, I could pay up to $10,000 in costs - including premiums and deductibles and co-payments (should we have high medical costs next year). The premiums alone are between $4000 and $6000 depending upon the specific plan I chose. So, we are looking at getting health insurance thru my wife's company - their coverage appears to be better - but we are still getting info on it.

And I know of others whose company either have worse plans, or none at all, or where you have to wait 2 years before you're even eligible for coverage...

It's high-time that our government started setting national priorities that are in line with the issues Americans are facing in their day-to-day lives. I feel very strongly that our country is going in the wrong direction on a number of fronts.

My advice is - don't just sit their and take it - get involved! Vote... Write or call your representatives, and urge your friends to do the same.

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Old 11-07-2005, 10:57 PM   #8
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My Grandpa Has High Cholestrol :Sad:

 
Old 11-08-2005, 04:53 AM   #9
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Hubble,

You and I don't often agree on things, but I am with you 100% here. I just LOVE when a congressman talks about the evils of socialized medicine when each and every one of them has exacly that...a gilt-edged health care plan purchased with taxes.

 
Old 11-08-2005, 07:24 AM   #10
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I don't know what the answer is in regard to health care. You are lucky that an employer pays part of your healthcare costs. We are self-employed and pay high premiums that only cover catastrophic events. My only problem is that the countries that have "socialized" medicine seem to have inferior health care, long waits for routine tests and even longer waits for needed surgery. My doctor told me that when he went to France to study that he witnessed group gynocolgy exams--10 women with their legs in the stirrups while one doctor went from one to the next.

I have also read that getting a routine CT scan can take months in Canada, but there may be posters here that can disavow that claim. I believe I read in England there is consideration being given to allowing patients to opt into a private system since the public health care is so bad.

I handle my FIL's health bills through Medicare and all of it is paid by the government. He had an overnight stay in the hospital for elevated blood pressure and the bill was $8,000--so many tests were ordered that I have to wonder if they were all needed since his blood pressure dropped after a few hours. He had developed some slight fluid build-up around his heart and went home the next morning.

I have to wonder if in the end we would all end up paying more for a poorer health care system. Just a different point of view.

Jane (who is standing in the corner waiting for the bricks to fly)

 
Old 11-08-2005, 09:38 AM   #11
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In my country, Belgium, we have "socialised" medicine, but also a very high quality of medicine! No long waits for routine tests either. For surgery I wouldn't know, depends on which type of surgery I gues, but I have never heard anyone in my country complain. All of you, just come to Belgium

 
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Hubble,

You and I don't often agree on things, but I am with you 100% here. I just LOVE when a congressman talks about the evils of socialized medicine when each and every one of them has exacly that...a gilt-edged health care plan purchased with taxes.

Lenin,

Are you sure you're feeling OK??? That's already once this year that you've agreed with me... (only kidding)

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Old 11-08-2005, 12:16 PM   #13
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Definitely have to agree about our very high priced health care insurance, it is totally out of control. When hubby and I were both working we had great plans, which over the years got downgraded every few years, but it was still within our budget, so we didn't complain much.

Now that we are both retired, it is not going so well. We stayed with hubby's insurance as it was better coverage then mine, but seeing he had to retire early, I'm not covered to age 65. Agreement was, I was covered for 5 years from his retirement date, which was up this year, so in Aug. we had to shell out 10,000 to keep me insured for another year, as I will switch to Medicare next year. I may never need the costly coverage, but God forbid anything happened if I chose not to pay, we would be sunk!!! these days one or two days in a hospital can wipe U right out, so U are forced to pay..BIG TIME!!

Like everyone else, I am sick of listening to the politicans say they are going to fix things, and do SQUAT!! Oh yes, they talk a good game, but as soon as they are finished talking, they totally swish the subject under a rug. I think it is disgusting what older folks have to pay out these days, especially when U are on a fixed income. Yes, I know a couple of politicians and have spoken to them by phone and in person at their rallys, but I still don't see anything being done. Seems in foreign countries they value their older folks, here we seem to be put out to pasture to fend for ourselves.

OK, I had my vent, now I feel better. Have a good one folks.....

 
Old 11-09-2005, 01:07 AM   #14
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yes ya'll i would tend to agree that our pokiticiak system and health care system needs HELP

and yes i know that i need to quit these stupid cancer sticks but 1 step at a time.

well thank God for my wife i do really love her she has made me become a veggie damn im from Texas where is the beef ????? i mean i am a 41 yr old male and to me its not a meal without MEAT but I have now been doing this diet for 2 days now man this sure is hard no meat

but i know that this will have to be done so that my body can heal

she has done alot of research on the net and has me doing supplements diet exercise and the such talk about a lifestyle change but have to do this to live longer

i know that i will be able to eat meat again after this gall bladder thing passes but i am sure glad of this fourom ( not sure of spelling)

tkx again

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Old 11-09-2005, 05:28 AM   #15
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Simply comparing the Health Care options outside the United States sheds light.
Some facts:
In 2002, the U.S. spent $5,267 per person on health care
Canada spent $2,931
Germany spent $2,817
Britain spent $2,160.......note the similarity of the 3 with universal medical care.
For this money the U.s. gets lower life expectancy and higher infant mortality than the others.
Do others wait in line for care? Yes, sometimes but so do they in the U.S. A survey of medical experience (journal of Health Affairs) of "sicker adults" in 6 countries did NOT support claims about U.S. superior service. The shorter waits for elective surgery are often FAR outweeighed by the need to forgo treatment purely because of overwhelmiing expense. Forty percent of Americans said they fail io fill prescriptions becasue of cost (I have.)The U.S. also show evidence of the highest rate of medical errors.

The biggest problem might be a philosophical one...in the United States medical care is looked upon as a privilege (and thus more available to the priviledged...like a swimming pool and a Jaguar.) In most of the civilized world it's looked upon as a right.

My common sense says that eliminating insurance companies and their multilayers of expense and profit cannot possibly do anything but cut a layer of cost. The lockout of price controls and the willingness to embrace monopoly which exists in the U.S. but not in the rest of the world can only prove costly, as it clearly does in the DOUBLED prices of drugs...and the criminalization of methods of getting them elsewhere.

It is proven time and again if there is one buyer (like the government) drug companies, hospitals and doctors will happily earn a fair but not gouging profit on their services. That's the way it works in civilized countries.

It is also clear that forcing big business to pick up medical costs is NOT a good way to keep them competitive...one of the reason that a Buick Le Sabre has to cost at several $$GRAND$$ more than a Honda Accord; G.M. is forced to pick up the medical costs for employees.

An overwhelming fact that cannot be ignored is that for nearly 50 million citizens of the United States, Health care is NOT available...good, bad or indifferent. To say that they should get better jobs is a very Marie Antoinette attitude. The fact is that from 2000-2004 the United States got 10 million more people under 65...those with employment based insurance FELL by 4.9 million in that time frame (thus a 15 million net coverage loss.) So even Marie Antioinettes with now good jobs may lose their insurance in not too great a time. But worry not, LEGISLATORS will NEVER go without socialized medicine for themselves.

THe United States will EVENTUALLY see the light, but as in most things must it be only AFTER 10's of millions are needelessly killed in the name of stupidity and greed?

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