I just came across the results of this study which was carried out last year by the University of California, Berkeley. They found that just 500mg of vitamin C per day resulted in a 24% drop in CRP levels, an inflammation risk marker which many now feel is associated with an increased risk of cardiovascular disease. The significance of this finding was evidently enough to persuade the National Institute of Health to award a grant for further research.
I've been taking about 2-3 grams of vitamin-c per day... wonder what the optimal dose for CRP reduction is?
HubbleRules
I don't know, but I've been wondering about that myself. They observed a 24% reduction with just 500mg after only two months. Not bad, but I wonder if higher doses would have an even greater effect, especially if taken for longer periods of time. I think the optimal dose would probably vary from one individual to another, since everyone is different. It's possible that one person may require 10 times as much as someone else in order to achieve a similar effect. People's nutritional needs can vary quite considerably, which is why I have so little confidence in RDAs.
By the way, Hubble, if you want to read something interesting, Mike Ciell, a registered pharmacist, wrote an article called "One pharmacist's view of coronary heart disease: comparing the Lipid Theory with the Unified Theory."
I'm not sure if I could post that link here, but if you just type Mike Ciell into your browser, you should come across this article with no trouble. It's pretty interesting.
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I've also read peer-reviewed journal studies that suggest vitamin C doses provide such antioxidant effects (I'll post some of them later).
Now, if I were a conspiracy theorist, I would ask, "Are the orange juice companies funding this research?" Or, "Did the orange juice companies buy out the study parties involved?" Nah, that's not like me. I have no such thoughts!
I've also read peer-reviewed journal studies that suggest vitamin C doses provide such antioxidant effects (I'll post some of them later).
Now, if I were a conspiracy theorist, I would ask, "Are the orange juice companies funding this research?" Or, "Did the orange juice companies buy out the study parties involved?" Nah, that's not like me. I have no such thoughts!
Only thing U need to be careful of with juice, is alot of them have sugar in them. I'm not a big OJ fan, but drink it every so often. Cranberry juice is suppose to be good for you, yet they say it has the highest amount of sugar. I swear, no matter what is good for you, it has a drawback of some kind. Here is part of an article I found:
Watch the sugar - Juices have natural sugars in them, without the fiber that would buffer the blood sugar reaction if you were eating the whole fruit. One glass of orange juice can have the juices of 2 or 3 oranges, depending upon size, and all that sugar can hit your bloodstream at once. Ideally, juice should be drunk with a meal containing protein and a high-fiber food such as oatmeal or vegetables.
Oh well, like I said, seems at times it is a losing battle.........
Avenanthramides and phenolic acids from oats are bioavailable and act synergistically with vitamin C to enhance hamster and human LDL resistance to oxidation. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...412&query_hl=2
Oral vitamin C administration reduces early recurrence rates after electrical cardioversion of persistent atrial fibrillation and attenuates associated inflammation. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...504&query_hl=2
Improvement of peripheral endothelial dysfunction by acute vitamin C application: different effects in patients with coronary artery disease, ischemic, and dilated cardiomyopathy. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...196&query_hl=2
Well I eat a ton of veggies and fruit that contain Vitamin C and also take 1000 mgs a day in supplement and still my CRP is at heart attack/stroke risk. Someone once said to me that if I had a strenuous workout the night before bloodwork that would cause the CRP to go up. Well I have those all the time so I'm wondering is CRP really what it seems to be? Lisa
Well I eat a ton of veggies and fruit that contain Vitamin C and also take 1000 mgs a day in supplement and still my CRP is at heart attack/stroke risk. Someone once said to me that if I had a strenuous workout the night before bloodwork that would cause the CRP to go up. Well I have those all the time so I'm wondering is CRP really what it seems to be? Lisa
I'VE been doing more research on this Lisa and C-reactive protein measures not only inflammation in your Arteries but the entire body, so if you had the Flu, a Cold ,hard excersise, any type trauma to your body and took the blood test you''ll get a high reading even though your Arteries are fine. harry!
I'VE been doing more research on this Lisa and C-reactive protein measures not only inflammation in your Arteries but the entire body, so if you had the Flu, a Cold ,hard excersise, any type trauma to your body and took the blood test you''ll get a high reading even though your Arteries are fine. harry!
Thanks Harry I really needed to hear that. I am so frustrated about this CRP. Especially since hearing about inflammation in my body. I also have tennis elbow and my doc knows this ya think she would have known about the muscle or other inflammation that could cause this..As I always say we are responsible for our own recovery...Lisa
Thanks Harry I really needed to hear that. I am so frustrated about this CRP. Especially since hearing about inflammation in my body. I also have tennis elbow and my doc knows this ya think she would have known about the muscle or other inflammation that could cause this..As I always say we are responsible for our own recovery...Lisa
Moxie, what prompted your dr. to do a CRP test anyway. I know I had ALOT of blood work done in May when I went to this new dr. but see nothing about CRP on the list. Like Harry said, if U had another problem going on at the time, it might account for a high reading. Maybe U should talk with her and ask, as U are going to worry yourself silly at the rate your going.
I know last dr. I had was a panic type, and when some blood work came back about my potassium level being low, he freaked and sent me to a cardio guy, which of course scared the pants off of me. After having an Echo done, the dr. showed me the entire video, and explained, because my potassium level was low, and I had a very low heart rate, that it caused the EKG to show it as "abnormal". What he showed me was, instead of at a certain point in the EKG I had a small hump type thing....^...instead of large spike, it freaked my dr. out. At the time they had me on 50 mgs. of Atenolol and it brought my HR down too low, so I switched to Avapro and knocked the Atenolol down to 25, and my last EKG looked very good. Lately I have been even cutting the Atenolol in half, as I want to try and stop taking it, but my dr. is a fan of it. Seems I am too tired alot and since I lowered the dose, I feel alot better. Next time I go for a visit I am going to have a talk with her and see if she will just let me take the Avapro, as so far the BP has been looking good, and she doesn't even know I split them. Oh well, we will see what happens.
I just came across the results of this study which was carried out last year by the University of California, Berkeley. They found that just 500mg of vitamin C per day resulted in a 24% drop in CRP levels, an inflammation risk marker which many now feel is associated with an increased risk of cardiovascular disease. The significance of this finding was evidently enough to persuade the National Institute of Health to award a grant for further research.
Arizona, I also read Mike Ciell's article "One Pharmacist's view of Coronary Heart Disease" and was very impressed enough that I have increased my Vit C to 4000. I came across his article when I was researching Pauling's Unified Theory. In the print out I also read where Pauling combined the Vit C with two other components being L-Lysine and L-Proline and saw reduction in artery blockage. Did you read the same thing? One good thing about Vit C is it helps so many other health problems like artery's that break easily, Allergy's, just to mention two. It is an interesting study.
Arizona, I also read Mike Ciell's article "One Pharmacist's view of Coronary Heart Disease" and was very impressed enough that I have increased my Vit C to 4000. I came across his article when I was researching Pauling's Unified Theory. In the print out I also read where Pauling combined the Vit C with two other components being L-Lysine and L-Proline and saw reduction in artery blockage. Did you read the same thing? One good thing about Vit C is it helps so many other health problems like artery's that break easily, Allergy's, just to mention two. It is an interesting study.
Gardeninggal,
I've ready the same thing. Pauling recommended at least 3-6 grams of vitamin-c, plus about half as much L-Lysine, don't recall what his recommendation for L-Proline was.... I currently take both Vitamin-C and L-Lysing (3-4 grams and 1-2 grams respectively). Haven't found a source for L-Proline yet..
He claimed that L-Proline and L-Lysine help reduce the amount of Lp(a) that gets drawn into plaques by binding with lysine receptors in the arteries before the Lp(a) could...
What I like about his theorey is it also explains how vitamin-c aids collagen production and therefore helps repair damage to the arteries so plaques don't form in the first place...
