Ornish is killing me - High Cholesterol Message Board

Lutheran122 · 08-20-2007, 02:04 PM

As I keep reading his book I am more and more depressed. In his book he says people should not take omega 3 supplements as they raise your cholesterol , not lower it. He also says that people should not take an aspirin a day as even though it is shown in studies that people who do this have less of a chance of heart attack they have more of a chance of hemmoragic stroke and the same amount of people died in the studies just they died of the strokes instead of the heart attacks. He says no meat at all , not even chicken without the skin or turkey. I am eating a lot of beans and fruit and veggies my god its almost impossible to take in no fats at all...now this guy has me afraid of even eating stuff with the good fats in them. There are too many experts saying the exact opposite of each other. I don't know whether to stay on this diet or do a low low carb diet instead. This stinks. Sorry for venting but I need a more definitive answer.

Guy1_USA · 08-20-2007, 03:31 PM

Ornish... aaaug! I need a barf emoticon...

I did Atkins for a year and my numbers inproved a bit. I did a Ornish style diet for 9 months and my numbers sky-rocketed...

I'd read Atkins and decide if that is do-able. Atkins also reduces your appitite. My eventual downfall on Atkins is that I like to drink cocktails on the weekend evenings...

Lutheran122 · 08-20-2007, 04:15 PM

Why do you think your numbers got worse doing the ornish diet? Supposedly it helps to reverse CAD...how could eating almost no fat make your cholesterol numbers worse?

Rick49 · 08-20-2007, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Lutheran122

Why do you think your numbers got worse doing the ornish diet? Supposedly it helps to reverse CAD...how could eating almost no fat make your cholesterol numbers worse?

...I don't know exactly how but when we eat too many carbs, the carbs are eventually turned into fat. Corn is king when it comes to fattening livestock so somehow carbs are turned into fat. So I know that's at least how the triglycerides are raised by carbs and how I lowered my tri's by following the glycemic index and Triglycerides are part of TC.
Rick

Lutheran122 · 08-20-2007, 05:27 PM

Damn and I love corn , oh well another food down the drain..I am sticking to brown rice and beans of all kinds and green veggies and fruits and i dont care what ornish says I am still having grilled chicken without the skin and roasted turkey slices!! I just bought the non flush niacin to help me with raising HDL along with my 20mg lipitor (which ornish also says to not use..)