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Old 03-17-2003, 07:43 PM   #1
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I can not take any statins due to leg cramps and my numbers are high so I am looking for altenative ways to lower choles. and trig. So I have been taking guggul lipid and non flush niacin (1500mgs) Anyway, around two months ago I developed a terrible pain in my knee joint and after going to 4 orthos., they told me that it was wear and tear of my miniscus. The MRI that I took showed nothing and finally, the drs. are saying arthritis. This came from no where and I have been trying to figure how I developed this pain. Then I read about one or two of you that mentioned that they had joint pains from niacin and I thought back and realized that my knee pain started around the same time that I started niacin. I would never have thought that this could be the cause, but I need to hear from any of you if it could be before I go to my ortho., dr. and get cortisone shots. I am very distressed over this and if I stop the niacin, then I will have to try something else. I am considering red rice yeast - Please I need your help on this ASAP- Thank you

 
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Sarah:

I take niacin also. Quite honestly, I have never seen any linkage/implication that niacin can cause the same kind of muscle discomfort that statins can. Your first indication that its probably not related to any oral medications is the isolation of the pain to only one knee (described singularly in your post). It sounds like more of a musculoskeletal issue than one of oral meds. In your place, I would keep on with the niacin if you can tolerate the flushing, and if your hepatic profiles keep coming back with everything looking normal.


 
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thanks for the reply- I just do not know what to do. My profile was not great- choles. 253 Tri. 238 HDL 51 That is taking 1500 mg of niacin and 1500 guggl lipid too. SO, now, that I read about the joint pains, I just feel that maybe the niacin is not working and may be giving me knee pain. I did read it somewhere on here that someone had this reaction So, my question is, should I stop the niacin and see if it is doing this to me, and if I do, what do I do now? I need a plan and I don't know where to start- can anyone help me??

 
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Sarah:

If you are taking it, for example, as part of prescribed treatment by a doctor, then I would consult with your physician first. I take my niacin by prescription. I did have to discontinue mine for a month due to elevated bilirubin. I just restarted on 500 mg a few weeks ago.

Anyway, if this is on your own, then you can give it a try without needing anyone's blessing. I take Niacin to help my HDL increase slightly and shift the LDL and HDL particle size averages to a higher value.

Your 51 HDL is pretty good. Your 238 mg/dL triglyceride reading is one that I would be concerned about. Knowning what I know now, and having been through this, I would take action to reduce that to <150 mg/dL. That contributes 48 to your 253 mg/dL total cholesterol, meaning that your LDL-C is 154 mg/dL. With exception of your HDL, the other values put you at a higher risk for heart disease.

The most effective way to reduce triglycerides is by reducing your intake of sugars/simple carbs. I once had >400 mg/dL triglycerides, but dropping the carbs back down to reasonable levels, weight loss, exercise, has consistently put my triglycerides in the 34-60 mg/dL range.

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Hi well I am really worried about all of this. I am taking the non flush niacin s it is not quite as strong as the RX form. I am going to try red rice yeast now and hope that this will help me. I am almost desperate enough to go back on the zocor and have my numbers drop easily and fast. I just can go around with all this stress about my numbers. THe niacin is apparantly not helping me, is it? I take 1500 mgs so now, am I suppose to take more? My doc said to increase it if I feel good, but I am afraid of side affects. I am also concerned with my joint pains coming from this too. I wish thatI could hear from more people on the board about this issue.

 
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