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Old 05-15-2013, 11:48 AM   #1
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Question Cholesterol through the roof in a perfectly healthy person???

Hi guys,

I really need your advice and opinion! My question concerns my husband. Although he's 60 years old, no one gives him even 50, he's extremely fit, definitely not overweight, has been working out all his life (never taken any steroids or whatever), we eat extremely healthy in our household, he doesn't drink and smokes a few cigarettes a week. He went to the doctor for his first checkup in decades (he strained his heart pumping some iron ) and next thing we knew, his cholesterol was as follows:

TC=348
HDL=28
CH to HDL=9,5
triglycerides=500

His blood pressure is perfect, 120/80. Apparently zero heart problems.

He's seen two specialists since and their reaction was, like, ***??? They made him have another test after a few weeks on a reeeeally healthy diet, but the changes were negligible. They don't know what to say to him! Any ideas?

The biggest problem is, he stopped eating altogether because he doesn't know what he's "allowed to eat" any more! He can't possibly eat healthier than we already do. So he just doesn't.

Please help!

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Old 05-15-2013, 06:06 PM   #2
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Re: Cholesterol through the roof in a perfectly healthy person???

Could be it's genetic in which case diet will do nothing. My sister is in the same boat. Eats healthy, works out regularly, is 66 years old - looks 50 at the MOST - doesn't smoke at all, 5'6" and weighs 115. Hers was over 300. Now she's on statins...only way to get it down.

 
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Old 05-16-2013, 10:28 AM   #3
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Re: Cholesterol through the roof in a perfectly healthy person???

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Could be it's genetic in which case diet will do nothing. My sister is in the same boat. Eats healthy, works out regularly, is 66 years old - looks 50 at the MOST - doesn't smoke at all, 5'6" and weighs 115. Hers was over 300. Now she's on statins...only way to get it down.
Thank you so much, Titchou!Oh well... I suppose these things happen

Take care!

 
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Old 05-16-2013, 02:27 PM   #4
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Re: Cholesterol through the roof in a perfectly healthy person???

Irene,

I notice that his triglycerides are very high, 500. That usually caused by too many carbs. His HDL (good cholesterol) is very low, 28. That is usually because he's not eating enough healthy fats. I know you said you eat healthy and I'm sure you think you do, but the numbers don't indicate a proper balance. Have him cut back on carbs. Try to stick to things with a low glycemic index. Eat healthy cuts of lean red meat, along with chicken and fish. Cut back on rice, pasta, breads, fruits (unless they're low glycemic on the index list.) Avocados, nuts, and other higher protein foods might help with his HDL. Even a few eggs a week shouldn't hurt. I didn't see a listing for his LDL so not sure about fat intake. Everyone has a different idea on what works and what's best, so this is just my opinion, but I would try everything else before resorting to statins. They have so many side effects. I wish you both well.

 
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Old 05-18-2013, 05:15 AM   #5
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Re: Cholesterol through the roof in a perfectly healthy person???

rudiraven, thank you very much! I found it strange too, but his test results didn't have the LDL reading.

Your question is perfectly correct: we often don't even realize how bad our diets are. The high triglycerides reading definitely indicates he must be eating a lot of carbs. And that's a mystery to me. The only thing that could be the culprit is that he used to always have breakfast cereals in the morning, Kellogs and such (and I used to warn him about the dangers!). Even then it was a rather small helping, a couple of ounces, with milk. He used to have a small helping of carbs for lunch (a small potato or a couple spoonfuls of rice or pasta as a side dish) and maybe a couple (never more) of cookies with his unsweetened tea in the evening (we never have an evening meal). That's basically it! No donuts or sliced bread or sugary snacks... no sweet tea or soft drinks...

Having said that, after his first test he stopped breakfast cereals and the occasional evening cookie altogether and after three weeks his triglycerides were still the same. So he's really at a loss and doesn't know what he can eat any more

I feel very sorry for him

 
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Re: Cholesterol through the roof in a perfectly healthy person???

I'm not sure that skipping a meal is a good idea. I would suggest oatmeal for breakfast, a good salad with chicken or shrimp or salmon for lunch and veggies and chicken, fish, lean pork for dinner. Doesn't sound like your "healthy" diet is all that healthy.

 
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Old 05-18-2013, 05:45 AM   #7
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I agree with you, Titchou. These days, I make oatmeal for him in the mornings

Thank you very much guys!

 
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Re: Cholesterol through the roof in a perfectly healthy person???

Irene,

Firstly: Have him duplicate the test THIS WEEK...no sense doing anything rash about one test.

Secondly: If duplicate testing is as bad as the first he needs to be on a strong statin post haste. I like generic atorvastatin (the old patented Lipitor) perhaps maybe 40 mg. After a month retest, along with liver function and PK (muscle damage test.)

Now a back step...did one of those doctors put him on a heavy statin regimen????? If not, why not?

Not to worry you, but those numbers indicate a walking heart attack...forget diet, skip the gym until the dust settles.
Make sure he is on an aspirin a day regimen, adult size (325 mg.)

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Old 06-03-2013, 05:18 AM   #9
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Irene,

Firstly: Have him duplicate the test THIS WEEK...no sense doing anything rash about one test.

Secondly: If duplicate testing is as bad as the first he needs to be on a strong statin post haste. I like generic atorvastatin (the old patented Lipitor) perhaps maybe 40 mg. After a month retest, along with liver function and PK (muscle damage test.)

Now a back step...did one of those doctors put him on a heavy statin regimen????? If not, why not?

Not to worry you, but those numbers indicate a walking heart attack...forget diet, skip the gym until the dust settles.
Make sure he is on an aspirin a day regimen, adult size (325 mg.)
Thank you very much! He's already had a duplicate test, and the results are more or less the same. His doctor prescribed him fenofibrate. In all honesty, with all the negative information pouring in about statins causing neuropathy and all that, it was probably the best thing. I personally had to stop statins in the past (I'm a type I diabetic) because they caused God-awful muscle pain, I was in agony. I now take a non-statin medication that keeps my cholesterol within limits.

Aspirin is always a good idea, will do! Thanks a lot!

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Re: Cholesterol through the roof in a perfectly healthy person???

Hi Irene,

You say.... "His blood pressure is perfect, 120/80. Apparently zero heart problems."

Has he had any tests to check for the build up of arterial plaque by the means of a doppler ultrasound, CT scan or the basic ankle-brachial index test?
If not, I would at least get him to have a Doppler Ultrasound performed on his heart arteries and the neck's Carotid arteries.

If all is clear, take the above advice on carbs and fats and totally forget about statins. It takes many many years for plaque to build to a point of causing strokes, angina and heart attacks. At 60 with very little build up of plaque, there is very little need to worry.

If a build up of plaque exists even at 30%, the arteries should last out his lifetime, as on average plaque grows by, depending which study papers you read, 9% per annum if left untreated. (That is 30% x 9% year 1. 32.7% x 9% year 2...etc)
In the UK, >60% blockage is the figure used to warrant a stent implant.

Cholesterol is not the enemy, it is the saviour to the arterial system and body as a whole. The real culprit is inflammation.
Halt inflammation and you halt the build up of cholesterol deposits and toxins on the arterial walls. Reversing the build up of Cholesterol deposits lowers BP.

Yack.

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Old 06-04-2013, 07:53 AM   #11
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Re: Cholesterol through the roof in a perfectly healthy person???

Yack,

Awesome advice, thank you! I'll have to find out more about these tests and where he can take them. I completely agree with what you say.

Thanks a lot!

 
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