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Old 03-18-2005, 08:00 AM   #1
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Favorite ARBS

I've been taking Diovan for nearly 6 weeks, first 80 then 160 mgs, and my bp is not coming down. Before I add back in maxide, which I hated taking in the past, I want to try a different ARB. Can you all remind me which ARBS have worked best for you? Thanks all.

 
Old 03-18-2005, 09:06 AM   #2
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Re: Favorite ARBS

ARBs haven't done much for me. Many people who visit here seem to like Benicar, with or without a diuretic.

 
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Old 03-18-2005, 09:57 AM   #3
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Re: Favorite ARBS

I'm a Benicar fan. The only ARB comparison I have is Hyzaar 50/12.5 (Cozaar + HCTZ) compared to Benicar 20 (no HCTZ). For me, plain vanilla Benicar blows away Hyzaar. Hyzaar did absolutely nothing for my BP. I don't know if the HCTZ was a negative player. Or, if Cozaar was just outright ineffective. But, I am getting excellent BP control from Benicar.

I don't know how Benicar compares to Diovan though. From what I've read, Benicar seems to be the most potent ARB available.

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I have been on Benicar HCT for nearly a year. My BP has been in the nearly normal range most of that time. Before Benicar I took ARBs Micardis and Diovan. They both gave me good control for 6 to 8 hours and then my BP would slowly climb up. I would start out with 120/70 and by bedtime it could be as high as 180/90. With Benicar it is much more stable.
My cardiologist told me Benicar is the only ARB that last a full 24 hours.
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Old 03-18-2005, 01:41 PM   #5
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HTCZ and Lotenson gave me heart pap really bad-over a Christmas weekend no less-really scared me. Dr thought it was th sulfa in the HTCZ. I've been on Benicar 40mg for over a year. At first I started out at 20mg and it didnt seem to lower my pressure-then increased to 40mg. My pressure had been running in the upper 80's-low 90's (top #) over upper 50's to mid 60's lower#. I had been getting dizzy spells/light headiness/ brain fog- Since I've lost over 30 lbs-doctor thinks I might have Hypotension and I have just started splitting the 40mg in half for the past two days. I know it took a month or so for the Benicar to kick in. I had carpal tunnel surgery several months ago and boy was I nervous- In recovery the nurse kept checking my blood pressure and made the comment "boy your blood pressure sure stays pretty consistent" I could see the monitor and it was 108/67 or lower. They kept me over 5 hours-even had lunch at the hospital-don't know if they were concerned about the pressure being low or just normal for cp surgery. I thought after surgery-you got to go hour or so. Benicar has kept my Bp very steady-Just hope cutting the dosage works! Took mine today in the a.m. and it was 110/69 -(I thought I have HBP -lol due to the low numbers I was getting.) Hope the lower dosage takes care of the lightheadiness/ spacey felling.

 
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Re: Favorite ARBS

My experience is with Cozaar. For several years it didn't do much form my BP, almost useless without a thiazide.
Lately it's turned around and bitten me with cough and knee and back pain!

I think it's history<sigh>!

 
Old 03-20-2005, 12:38 PM   #7
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Avapro (avalide) has the advantage, for me, of no side effects, but I'm not at all clear
how much reduction I get from ARB. I'm suspecting not much. Any views?

 
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I ran half a marathon with Benicar. It works for me.

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Re: Favorite ARBS

If Diovan 160 has not brought my bp down in a little over 6 weeks - is there any point in adding Maxide to see what happens? OR should I first try changing to Benicar or another ARB?

 
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evelyn,
Try the Maxide WITHOUT the ARB.

 
Old 03-22-2005, 08:42 AM   #11
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Lenin, I've used the Maxide alone for about a year. Before that I used Cardizem with maxide, Toprol, Vasotec, and maybe one or two others. nothing really brought my bp down and all had side effects.

I would like to try Benicar, but in the book "Best Pills Worst Pills" it says you should wait 7 years after a drug is on the market to use it, after most of the deadly side affects are known. It said to wait until 2009 to try Benicar.

 
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It should work in a few hours. So I think it would have already kicked in at six months. Maybe they have samples of Benicar.

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evelyn,

I SOOO agree with the "wait seven years" type of thinking. In fact, unless the whole DRUG CLASS is new and I am forced into a newer drug, I wait 17 years...when it's generic. I figure if enough people haven't dropped in their tracks for the FDA to notice in all THAT time, the drug is probably safe.
Probably the most dangerous attitude anyone can have is to always "be the first one on your block" to try a new drug!

Gotta put up with doctors though and their " Oh diazapam (Valium) isn't a very good drug ANYMORE!"
They actually can say that with a straight face! They must take a course in poker faces in med school.

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I don't think I'd want to be the first on the block to try a new drug, but if I had terrible side effects and/or no blood presssure control from all the old stuff, I'd try the new drug. I figure the damage from 17 years of uncontrolled high blood pressure is a greater risk than the likelihood of dropping dead from a new drug.

 
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I've been on Avapro for a few weeks, and so far I am overjoyed. Still too early to tell if the improvements will last, but so far, it is the most effective BP medicine that I've ever taken. It really lowers my blood pressure, and keeps it low throughout the day, and I really feel good on the medicine.

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