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Old 08-19-2005, 02:21 PM   #1
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I am so glad I ran up on this site. I read some of the post but there are so many it will take time for me to read them all.

The reason why I am here today is because I need some answers, if anyone has any. I am 35 years old and have had hbp since I was 21. I have been on all sorts of meds over the years and nothing is working for me. My Dr. basically gave up on trying to figure out what the problem was and sent me to a Nephrologist last week.

After I answered all his questions,family history of hpb,did I smoke, etc. he came to the conclusion that I am in the 5% of people who have a known cause for hpb. Now we start the journey into what could cause it. Because there is no family history, because I don't smoke, because of my age, because I am not overweight and generally healthy he feels there is a cause for my bp being so high. I know there is the posibility of kidney damage but he didn't elaborate on what else could cause it. He tried to reassure me it wasn't due to stress. I find that hard to believe because I am a stressaholic. If it can be stressed over...I'm the woman for the job.

What I don't understand is when my bp is through the roof...I feel no differently. Which had him scratching his head. The ONLY way I can tell when my bp is high is I have a vein in my neck that will protrude outward. Otherwise, I can not tell when it is high. I get an occasional headache but don't know if it is from the bp or not. Am I the only one who can't tell when there bp is at stroke level? Makes me worry about it more to be honest because I never know when it is high and when it isn't. I am constantly checking my bp just to see what it is.

I am currently on Catapres TTS 2 (the patch) and I take 80mgs. of Benicar a day. They also gave me Clonidine which is the same as the Catapres but with it I hold it under my tongue until it disolves to drop my bp fast. Sometimes to fast because I have hit the floor a few times it's dropped it so fast. Now I know Dr's know alot more than I do, but if my bp is 180/145 and I drop it very fast (within a matter of a cpl. mins.to 135/75) could this not cause my heart to go into shock or something?

My normal low is 145/90-95 and it has been as high as 200/160 several times. If anyone can answer my questions or if they have any links I might could look at, I would greatly appreciate it.

 
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Old 08-21-2005, 04:17 PM   #2
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Thanks for all the answers!

 
Old 08-21-2005, 06:59 PM   #3
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Kimberly, welcome to the site. I'm sorry if it has appeared that people here have been ignoring you. The fact that you received no answers was not deliberate. None of us are medical professionals, and your situation is just way over my head, and I'm sure others have felt the same. Most of us have primary hypertension, or in a few cases like me, primarily stress-induced hypertension. So we can't speak from experience about secondary hypertension, which is likely the case for you.

Though I doubt very much that your primary cause is stress, like everyone else, no doubt your pressure does go higher when you are under stress. For most people, I think, stress tends to affect systolic pressure (the first number) much more than the diastolic pressure. But for me, at least, stress usually sends the systolic about 20 points higher or at the extreme, 40 points higher. You might be able to bring down your peaks a little by learning to deal with stress better (more exercise, meditation, prayer, breathing exercises). But don't expect that to trim more than 20 points or so off your peaks, if that. When your BP gets up into stroke range, though, I'd think it might be worth it to try bringing it down a bit on your own while the doctors continue to look for the real reason for your serious BP problem.

Another thing you might do to trim a few points off your BP is to make sure you are eating a good healthy diet, especially getting plenty of potassium from fruits and vegetables and plenty of calcium from non-fat or low-fat sources, such as dairy products or selected other foods. (I recently discovered that my SBP went 20-30 points higher when I had to go on a diet without dairy products. As soon as I took a calcium supplement, it went back down.) Again, I do not pretend that this is going to solve your extreme BP problem. But with numbers as high as yours, I'd look for every means possible to trim off a few BP points until the docs find the answer to your problem.

 
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Oh, and one more thing. If you have a BP monitor at home, you might want to check your BP before and an hour or two after meals some times to see if you happen to have any food sensitivities that send your BP higher. Though I'm sure that isn't your main problem, you wouldn't want to make a bad situation worse by eating foods which increased your BP.

 
Old 08-22-2005, 08:56 AM   #5
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Has your doctor scheduled you an appointment with a heart specialist? There are heart issues which can cause malignant hbp. Have you heard from the kidney specialist yet? There are kidney issues which can cause hbp. There are also adrenal tumors (pheochromocytoma) and thyroid problems which can cause hbp. You need to get all these possibilities checked.

 
Old 08-24-2005, 09:13 AM   #6
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I went to a heart specialist a few months back and he said everything looked normal, other than the fact that I did have spikes in my heartrate. He said it was due to the spikes in the bp and sent me on my way. I had my thyroid checked sometime back and it was all normal as well. I haven't heard from the kidney specialist yet because I am still having to urinate in containers and take them to the lab. I do my last container tomorrow. So should know something after those results are done.

I have 2 bp monitors. One manual and one electric. I check my bp every hour and keep a record of it. With both forms of bp monitoring my readings pretty much run neck in neck.

I am very careful with what I eat. Always have been. I guess I could be considered a vegetarian because I rarely eat anything other than fruits and veggies. I do take a calcuim supplement because at one point I wasn't getting enough calcuim. I don't drink any soft drinks of any kind. Mainly water and occasionally a glass of tea.

What I don't get is back in June I had surgery for an ectopic pregnancy. My bp readings were off the charts for about 2 weeks while I was evaluated by my ob/gyn. Once surgery was deemed neccesary because the meds I was taking to avoid the surgey did not work, I was laying in the hospital room awaiting surgery, which you would think would have been a stressful time, my bp was 135/75, my ob/gyn was in shock at this low number and had them check it about 10 times. Is it possible for stress to lower bp on occassion? I mean, for example, I just checked my bp before I started this message and it was 160/101 and I am under no stress at all right now. Does that make any sense to anyone or am I just stupid..lol?

 
Old 08-24-2005, 02:22 PM   #7
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The same kind of thing happened to me. I was having a D&C back in June and my BP was 137/74, my normal readings are 160/115. They were baffled at that too and could offer no explanation so at least your not alone in that one, lol. I'm only 21 myself and have had high bp since 13yrs old with no cause found, no family history etc. I too have just been to a heart specialist, I have a left bundle branch blockage but its not a problem with my bp. I'm also peeing in containers at the moment!! lol. It sucks hey? I am a bit over weight, about 14kgs but am losing them slowly, lost 5kgs already I was 70kgs last year and my bp was the same, as now at 86kgs. (Pre pg weight but my baby was stillborn due to placental abruption from high bp). So I'm kind of in the same boat as you, I do ahve some changes to make though. You seem to be nice and healthy so it is a puzzle why your bp is so high. I hope they find a cause and can treat it for you. Have they checked the ateries in your legs? The heart specialist checked mine, they were fine but he said something in the leg ateries can cause high bp, not sure what it is now. I really hope you get some answers soon.
Good luck and sorry for raving on, lol.
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I am very careful with what I eat. Always have been. I guess I could be considered a vegetarian because I rarely eat anything other than fruits and veggies.
Do you eat organic fruits and veggies? If not, you could be ingesting trace elements of pesticides or chemicals which can raise your blood pressure for a day or two.

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What I don't get is back in June I had surgery for an ectopic pregnancy. My bp readings were off the charts for about 2 weeks while I was evaluated by my ob/gyn. Once surgery was deemed neccesary because the meds I was taking to avoid the surgey did not work, I was laying in the hospital room awaiting surgery, which you would think would have been a stressful time, my bp was 135/75, my ob/gyn was in shock at this low number and had them check it about 10 times. Is it possible for stress to lower bp on occassion? I mean, for example, I just checked my bp before I started this message and it was 160/101 and I am under no stress at all right now. Does that make any sense to anyone or am I just stupid..lol?
Stress, as a cause of high blood pressure, is overrated, IMHO. There is no doubt that significant stress can raise blood pressure, but there are many other things that can raise one's blood pressure. Stress is only one thing that can raise your blood pressure.

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