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Old 03-19-2007, 04:00 PM   #1
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Norvasc dosage

Lenin,

I've got a question for you...as you may remember, I started taking Norvasc about 6 weeks ago. You warned me, and yes, last week I started running around like a chicken with its head cut off. Hyper, loud, and ugly...at least I immediately knew what it was thanks to you. My question is...when you were on Norvasc, did you try a reduced dose? If so, did it help?

I didn't have problems on 2.5mg but I went up to 5 mg and my sleeping was getting bad again. I stopped taking Norvasc 3 days ago, my dreams have returned and my pressures are the best they have been. Before I call my doc I thought I'd check with you.

Bethsheba

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Old 03-22-2007, 02:55 PM   #2
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Re: Norvasc dosage

Fmnd,

Sorry to move you from Durectics and Back Pain but since we're "talking" about Norvasc I thought it best to "move" here.

Really appreciate that info on heartburn. Actually I had heartburn for YEARS until I was diagnosed with sleep apnea...once I started using my air machine at night it disappeared and I've been bragging to anyone who will listen about what cured my heart burn...

THEN, last week I started getting heartburn again despite sleeping with my little machine...never occured to me that it would be the norvasc. I did go back on the med but am taking it at night instead of with my oatmeal in the am. I'm also trying a lower dose as my readings were good after being off the stuff for a few days..my bp's were high while on the higher dose and I was beginning to have sleep problems so methinks the dosage was too strong. Will try it for a couple of weeks to see what will happen. Thanks too for the warning about the head problems. I've never had a headache so we'll see.

Funny thing about this drug is that it lists more side effects than the drugs I've taken in the past (which is scary because I've experienced MOST of the side effects of the drugs I've taken in the past) but except for flushing,hyperactivity, and increasing sleep problems, I've experienced the least severe side effects on this one...at least so far---just give my body some time to object . Isn't that ironic?

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Old 03-22-2007, 03:14 PM   #3
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Re: Norvasc dosage

Hi - Well, I'm obviously not Lenin, but I definitely can relate to your problem.
I started on 5mg. of Norvasc last year but immediately started feeling anxious and had trouble sleeping (I take it at night). I read somewhere that some take only 1/2 dose and have had the nervous feeling disappear.
My doctor was skeptical but said that I could try cutting the pill in half. It has worked perfectly! I also take enalapril twice a day; but my systolic pressure started to have high readings; thus, the addition of Norvasc.
My doctor said that it doesn't matter if I don't cut the pill exactly in half because it stays in the system and eventually evens out.
I certainly would never want to take that combination pill of Norvasc and another drug (I think the other drug is a statin).
Good luck! I'm glad to know that you went back on the 1/2 dose! It lowered my systolic pressure right away, so I didn't need the higher dose!

 
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Re: Norvasc dosage

Hi Beth,

I'm new here so haven't got the hang of the landscape yet so move my posts anywhere. Anyhow, hope you don't get the headaches as mine felt like I was being stabbed here & there in my head (never had anything like that before). Even though I only took Norvasc a few days, I got the full force of the drug except that it didn't lower my b/p except for the first day!!! Regarding heartburn, mine is controlled as long as I do all the lifestyle stuff-very strict. I was using a c-pap machine which I'm going back too. Stopped it because my husband hates the noise even though he has a hearing problem-go figure. The c-pap reduced my systolic b/p 10 points. I've come to learn that it is best to start out on the lowest dosage possible with b/p meds so that one's body can adjust & sometimes tolerate the drug better. Fam

 
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Re: Norvasc dosage

Mabent,

So very glad you responded...I was beginning to think I was the only one taking Norvasc and after rereading the multitude of side effects I was beginning to understand why. Really appreciate the feedback on the lower dose...my doctor started me on a smaller dose but the old systolic was a little higher than it should be so he upped it...it may be that I didn't wait long enough for the smaller dose to take effect (I don't respond to drugs the way they expect or want me to). My pressures were higher on the high dose than they were on the lower dose...I suspect the med was messing with my sleep and those pressures went up. Had similar experiences with other bp meds.

I will try taking it twice a day to see if that helps. I think I had better continue to have it with my oatmeal, tho. This acid is the pits.

Bethsheba

 
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Re: Norvasc dosage

Fmnd,

I'm relatively new here myself and am also feeling out the landscape and learning as I go.

Am very sorry to hear about the headaches. I can't imagine how very painful they must have been but I'm glad to know you're doing better now. And again, I so very much appreciate your insights...it makes it easier for us to see our own situations. I can't believe that heartburn thing and yet it was RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME. Thank goodness you shared your experience.

Oh,, Fmnd, I really wish you would start a thread to tell people about your cpap and your lowered pressures!!! I've been trying to get the word out but it's slow going. They put me on meds before my sleep study and cpap...if they had done the sleep study and the cpap first, I don't think I'd be on meds now. Meds have messed up my life big time...I've gained over 20 pounds due to the side effects of meds. If I hadn't gained that weight I firmly believe my little cpap would be treatment enough for the bp...but now I have to lose the weight to prove it, groan.

We need to start a board for cpap users...so much to say there.

Fmnd, thanks for taking the time to "find" me here.

Bethsheba

 
Old 03-23-2007, 05:00 AM   #7
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Re: Norvasc dosage

Beth,

On Norvasc,
I was Rx'd for 10 mg. which I took for a couple weeks, and then switched myself to 5 mg. I hated BOTH dosages: SPEEDY GONZALES with Swollen Ankles...and NO lowering of my BP. Really miserable drug for me.

I never tried 2.5 mg because there seemed no point. I might have considered it if there had been at least some BP lowering.

 
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Re: Norvasc dosage

Thanks for the input, Lenin. Will monitor and see what happens. Who knows...when I'm hyper I just act like an *** and it's so very embarrassing but compared to the side effects of the other drugs embarrassing might be acceptable.

Bethsheba

 
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Re: Norvasc dosage

Hello again, Bethsheba - Are you taking any other Blood pressure medication?
Are both your systolic and diastolic too high? My B/P had been well-controlled on Enalapril (Vasotec) - only one a day at first and then raised to 2 (10 mg. each) tablets per day. I also take hydrochlorthiazide for a diuretic.
This has worked out well for me. That is, after adding the half-pill of Norvasc. However, if you are not being helped by the Norvasc, then it's not the solution for you. I am interested in finding out about that "cpap" machine. I'm sure I have sleep apnea but have never been tested for it. Is that what the machine is used for? I can see how it could lower blood pressure. I have a dry mouth almost every time I wake up in the morning, which probably means that I have sleep apnea - or certainly that I snore. Thanks for any info you can give me about that machine.

 
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Re: Norvasc dosage

My bps are not well contolled. I have had HORRIBLE side effects while on only med at a time...the thought of two meds absolutely terrifies me. I will do some research on the vasotec as I am unfamiliar with it. Thank you for the info. As for the hct, there is no way I can go on that again. My body literally shut down to the point where I found it difficult to walk, bend over, or just plain move. I seem to be controlling my water retention quite well just with diet right now--that is to say I fluctuate a pound or two per day (on diurectics I was all over the place) with no obvious swelling. I think I will try a reduced dose of norvasc for the next week and then call my doctor. Oh, I do so hate this. Thank goodness for people like you and the others on the boards. What would we do without each other?

I'd love to tell you about my little cpap machine but we must stick to topic so I will start a new thread. Ok? Look for CPAP for Lowering BPs...I'm tired tonight so won't start it until this weekend some time unless, of course, you would like to start it?

Take care, Mabent. And thanks so much for listening.

Bethsheba

 
Old 03-24-2007, 04:28 AM   #11
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Re: Norvasc dosage

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I will do some research on the vasotec as I am unfamiliar with it.
BEth,
I just read your comment on the lisinopril thread. Since you had such a bad time with it, I would advisse you to avoid Vasotec like the plague...it's enalapril, the very first of the ACE inhibitors. That was my initiation to THE ACE COUGH.

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Re: Norvasc dosage

Oh, Lenin,

Thank you so much!!!! And I meant to thank you also for getting back to me on this thread.

After I went off the norvasc, my bp went down to the normal (healthy) range but started to go up again after several days. I went back on norvasc at the "intro" level and I seem to be doing fine now...but I haven't been on it long enough this second time to see if i'll start acting like a headless chicken again! But thanks to you, I'll know what's wrong if I do.

Yes, the hct was horrible for me...I would only be up a couple of hours and then back to bed...and then the body pain set in. The worst part was that it interfered with my cognitive ability and my energy so I wasn't able to call my doctor to tell him something was wrong even though subconsiously I knew something was wrong. I would wake up in the morning and walk around the house saying to myself, "Something's wrong, something's very wrong!" but never was able to get it together well enough to call my doctor and ask for help. If I lived with someone, perhaps this could have been avoided.

Oh well, thank goodness for friends like you who share their experiences and wisdom, and offer support.

Sincerely,

Bethsheba

 
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Re: Norvasc dosage

Beth,

I just read about what the norvasc was doing to you and Lenin.
I also was on this medication, and also had the same side effects as the two of you! I am off norvasc now and my heartburn is gone, and I am not a "grouchy" as I was before. I would have never thought it could be from the Norvasc.

I am now taking Cardizem (On the label it also has the name Diltiazem). I haven't been getting the chest pains and I am feeling much better. It's been a couple of months to start feeling better. I think the other med's are finally out of my system.

Ask your doctor if this medicaion would work for you. You never know!
Good Luck!

 
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angellight,

Thanks for the heads up, angellite. I must confess to going off meds again completely which may be risky. Must make sure my monitor is accurate but my readings are what the old bp standards were...I think that if I lose the 20+ pounds that I gained while on bp meds, I should be down to the current bp standard but will watch closely.

At my annual physical, 3 years ago, I asked the doc for a referal to see a sleep specialist and he gave me that referral. I had high bp at that time so he also gave me a rx for bp meds which I obediently filled and religiously took. It took me 7 months (long story) to have my sleep apnea diagnosed and treated. (Sleep apnea can cause high blood pressure and weight gain.) I believe if my apnea had been treated intially (I have reason to believe that I had it as a child and I had reported my symptoms 5 years prior), I would not have experienced high blood pressure, at least not at this time in my life. The bp meds caused severe sleep problems and I believe this also caused my bp to rise. Now that I'm on my cpap and off meds, my pressures have dropped about 65 points but we'll have to see what happens.

The meds caused so many problems for me--sleeping disorders, memory changes, mood problems, muscle and bone problems, and of course as a result WEIGHT GAIN--all of which contribute to high blood pressure.

High blood pressure is not a disease...it's a SYMPTOM of something else in the body that's not working correctly. Physicians need to id the CAUSE of the hbp before they start treating the symptoms...and yes, I know that it's not possible to id everyone's "cause" but many physicians don't do their homework. One very prevelent cause of high blood pressure is sleep apnea and physicians only get about 15 minutes training on this condition...not enough given the prevelence in our population and given the prevelence of high blood pressure.

Enough already...thanks again for your insights, angellite. I'll keep it in mind if I chose to go back on meds.

Bethsheba

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Re: Norvasc dosage

Now that I'm on my cpap and off meds, my pressures have dropped about 65 points but we'll have to see what happens.


Bethsheba,

WOW! Wouldn't it be great if your pressure stayed that way? I pray it does for you.
They just upped my dose of cardizem. Still no side effects, good thing. Pressure has been better. They are sending me to an Endocrinologist. You are right, b/p is a symptom. The cardiologist said it could be due to a type of syndrome.(probably hormones, always hormones with the women ) Good luck to you! and thank YOU for the information you share.

 
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