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Old 08-16-2009, 06:31 PM   #1
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Red face does the Betaxolol cause sexual problems?

Does the Betaxolol cause you any sexual problems or ED problems? Has this helped you with anxiety? I have anxiety disorder and take Propranolol PRN during anxious days. On normal days my blood pressure is about 130/89 depending on my stress level. Sometimes it is a little lower and sometimes a little higher. I wonder if I even need a daily BP medicine. My doctor is trying to get me to take Bystolic which I took about 4 days this week at 2.5 mgs. It did lower my blood pressure. I found it to make me very lethargic and affected my libido and performance at day 4.(I am 50ish male). The day I discovered the sexual problem I took a Cialis in hopes of overcoming the effect and I felt very ill the rest of the day (fluish) and noticed my blood pressure unusually low for me ....like 105/56. I wonder if Bystolic has some alpha blockade which would contraindicate Viagra type meds.

I'm concerned about continuing Bystolic and am thinking about just stopping and keeping the PRN Inderal thing going 2-3 times a week.

I am intrigued by your Betaxolol solution so I wanted to know how it affected your anxiety or if it had any sexual side effects for you. It might suit my needs too. I would appreciate your thoughts and experiences.

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Re: does the Betaxolol cause sexual problems?

Hi,

I will talk from a personal experience. I was on a beta-blocker, Zebeta 5mg, for several years. All what I can say is that it masked the symptoms of Anxiety. Please don't take Cialis without your dr's approval as it might interact with your medication.

Also I would suggest that you take Magnesium supplements, 300mg elemental Magnesium, along with good vitamin B Complex, this will be good for your anxiety and blood pressure. I like NSI Magnesium Ultra and NSI Vitamin B Complex.

So you have no side effects with Betaxolol other than ED?
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Re: does the Betaxolol cause sexual problems?

Mike,

I have not taken Betaxolol, I was curious as to another poster's experience (ACE 28) His post was from February 2009. I was writing in response to his post but it was switched to another topic instead. I'd love to learn more about Betaxolol and if he is still taking it now in August 2009.

He switched to Betaxolol and posted this:

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This is just my opinion from what you posted. It appears other classes of HBP medications (Norvasc) were not right for you. I think a beta blocker is probably better for you because beta blockers have a calming effect, help with anxiety and lower blood pressure. I was on bystolic for awhile and bystolic was OK for blood pressure but it was not that good for anxiety.The best beta blockers for anxiety related blood pressure spikes are PROPRANOL, METOPROLOL and BETAXOLOL. These medications have been used for years to control blood pressure and have a calming effect. I'm currently taking BETAXOLOL with minimal side effects and a much better quality of life versus bystolic. Some years ago when I was approx. your age, I was going through some very tough times and my doctor prescribed LOPRESSOR (2 X a day) I would break the pill in half and take half in the AM and half in the PM. Within about 2 weeks my anxiety, mood swings, rapid heart beats were almost completely eliminated. LOPRESSOR is the brand name drug for METOPROLOL/TOPROL. The alternative is to take another blood pressure class of drug. ACE Inhibitor, Diuretic etc. but these pills will do nothing for anxiety or for the white coat syndrome. The point I'm trying to make is that their are other choices of beta blockers. The 3 beta blockers I mentioned are known to cross the blood brain barrier in a very particular way and target only beta1 receptors. The many benefits offered cannot be boasted by any other medication class currently available.

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Re: does the Betaxolol cause sexual problems?

As I have told you, try NSI Magnesium along with their vitamin B complex and see how this will effect you. Magnesium has a great calming effect, and it's side effects free. Unlike beta-blockers which cause ED, fatigue and exercise, intolerance between other things. Folic Acid lowers blood pressure, I took 2 NSI vitamin B complex capsules and my blood pressure went down after few hours.

I'm on low dose of Cardizem SR, I take 90mg daily after being on 180mg for 4 years. my blood pressure is good as well as my heart rate because I take mag and vit b complex, magnesium lowers heart rate nearly as much as beta-blocker but as long as you don't eat fast food or consume too much salt. Please give them a try and make medications your last resort.
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Re: does the Betaxolol cause sexual problems?

Mike,

Thanks for the advise about being cautious taking new medications. I find they all have adverse side effects it seems. I found several references that state that most of the beta blockers cause Leydig Cell Damage (which produce testosterone in the testicles). So many of those on beta blockers are suppressing their bodies testosterone production. I am a victim of this having been given a broad spectrum beta blocker for a couple of years. My testosterone went to almost nil and now I have to take Androgel for replacement therapy which has been a Godsend for libido and muscle retention and other things. Neither the endocrinologist or the Urologist I have seen knew this fact. My newest doctor had recently espoused how Bystolic does not cause sexual side effects and I am finding out otherwise from those who have taken it. I don't know what to believe.

How much NSI magnesium do you take? I notice it comes in 500mgs tabs?
I do take a magnesium/Vitamin D/Calcium supplement from Schiff brand. I think it has 400 mgs of magnesium.

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Re: does the Betaxolol cause sexual problems?

Hi again,

I take NSI Magnesium Ultra, it provides you with 300mg of Magnesium. I also take 1 capsule of NSI Vitamin B Complex, I feel great after taking those. The important thing is that the brand you take tell you how much elemental magnesium in each tablet/capsule. Not just 400 mg Magnesium, maybe the bioavaliablity of the magensium form provides the body wih less than 40mg out of the 400mg.

I didn't know about testosterone about beta-blocker, I was on Zebeta for almost 4 years and I noticed that my erections become better after stopping it. I think the supplements I take helps with every process in my body, I took many supplments and my bp is great too. 119/71 now
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Re: does the Betaxolol cause sexual problems?

Hi Toothartist - I just posted a rather large thread which did not save properly due to the website continually asking me to sign in again and again. Anyway I will make this one rather brief. Betaxolol was recalled by the FDA late last year
and all drugs produced by ACTAVIS which includes Betaxolol generic and the KERLONE brand drug were removed from the shelf. Metoprolol/Toprol were also later recalled, with the exception of TOPROL XL brand drug. With the Betaxolol recall, I switched back to Bystolic. KERLONE was the excellent brand drug manufactured by SANOFI, The only Betaxolol which is currently being sold is manufactured by KVK TECH. It appears, KERLONE is discontinued. The generic is OK but it appears to give me more side effects, particularly muscle and joint related symptoms. Remember, everyone is different with side effect severity. Bystolic is effective for heart rate control, and inflammatory markers (CRP). As far as sexual side effects, no one can really tell for sure. Most taking beta blockers are compromised by heart conditions and on multiple medications. Toprol (in my experience) has very minimal sexual side effects at moderate doses. Betaxolol is very similar. Bystolic is supposed to have the least sexual side effects compared to almost any other beta blocker or HBP medication. This still needs to proven. Toprol in most research studies has sexual side effects in approx 0.2% of patients, almost all other medications have an incidence of > 1.5%. Coreg (3rd generation beta blocker similar to Bystolic) has an incidence of > 5%. I guess we have to hope we don't fall into these percentages, regardless of the medication we take.

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Re: does the Betaxolol cause sexual problems?

To answer your question regarding anxiety, Betaxolol definitely helped in certain stressful situations. My memory also felt much sharper and clearer.
This was when I took the brand drug KERLONE. When I tried the new generic, it did not appear to calm the anxiousness and appeared to make me a little more depressed. Toprol XL 50 mg, had a much more calming effect with no depression sysmptoms compared to the new generic drug. Plain brand drug Lopressor (Metoprolol) taken 2 times a day was the best remedy. The only problem is the multiple dosing. Propranol is the Gold standard for all beta blockers, Metoprolol is the second in standards. It appears these two older beta blockers are out-performing almost all other beta blockers in all areas. It's interesting that when you were taking Propranol you did not have sexual side effects. After the switch to Bystolic, you developed sexual problems on the fourth day. In theory, this is not supposed to happen with a medication that is touted to improve sexual function. It makes you wonder. Perhaps this pill is either a fraud or being manufactured at some cheap overseas company with no regulation standards. Maybe it's a tylenol and codeine mixture disguised as a beta blocker.

P.S. Betaxolol is available by KVK-Tech. Maybe it is worth a try anyway. Another beta blocker (though not as highly lipophilic as Propranol) is CORGARD (Nadolol) my sister took this pill and claimed it helped with her anxiety symptoms with minimal side effects. If the Propranol was working pretty well for you, perhaps you can take a very small dose every day, rather than three times a week, rather than the Bystolic everyday.

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Re: does the Betaxolol cause sexual problems?

ACE,

Thanks for sharing your experience. I am just starting to try Bystolic at 2.5 mgs. I took it for 4 days last week and was wiped out and lethargic by Saturday. Definitely hurt the libido that day so I panicked and dropped down to 1.25mgs. My BP did improve greatly though.

I'm going back up to 2.5mgs Bystolic this week to give it another try....I expect from one of your other posts that the fatigue may diminish with some patience. I'm trying to stay away from daily Inderal because I took Atenolol and Timolol at different periods for several years for anxiety and I think this is what brought my Testosterone levels down to 135 total. With research I later found that almost all of them will interfere with the Leydig cell's testosterone production. However, I noticed that in Bystolic's detailed report they "claim" that with 6 weeks study there was no reduction in testosterone which another article claims is the primary reason most beta-blockers can cause sexual dysfunction.

Thank goodness there is a testosterone replacement gel therapy now readily available because it basically solved my problem with this.

Did you indicate that you were not having too much sexual dysfunction with the Bystolic now? What dose are you taking now.

I might not even use a daily beta-blocker but my endocrinologist does not like my BP in the 138ish/89 level. I would then just use Inderal occasionally. He thought that the Bystolic might eliminate my occasional need for Inderal and solve my early hypertension at the same time. What other classification of BP med has virtually no sexual dysfunction that I could take daily?

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Re: does the Betaxolol cause sexual problems?

Toothartist,

I find Toprol does not effect libido and has minimal effect on sexual function.
Bystolic is a little trickier, some days libido appears nil and other days function seems to go by the wayside. You mentioned Leydig cells several times in your posts, Bystolic in carcinogen studies is strongly linked to this.
In a two-year study of nebivolol/bystolic in mice, a statistically significant increase in the incidence of testicular Leydig cell hyperplasia and adenomas was observed at 40 mg/kg/day. This is public information. No other beta blocker including Bisoprolol, Betaxolol or Metoprolol showed this negative effect during studies. Bystolic should definitely not be administered to young men who plan to have children.

 
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Re: does the Betaxolol cause sexual problems?

ACE,

Did the Toprol make you very tired. I am really struggling with this at only 2.5mgs of Bystolic. Which one are you taking now?

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Re: does the Betaxolol cause sexual problems?

Yes - Fatigue is associated with all beta blockers. At 2.5 mg Bystolic does not make me too tired. At 5 mg + the fatigue is worse. I think the beta blocker which gives you the least side effects (you can live with) is the best choice. I believe Bystolic at this time is alot of hype. Most beta blocker side effects are similar (or worse) with Bystolic. If you check the Bystolic Prescribing Information, high triglycerides, increased bun, lower HDL, fatigue, dizziness etc. are all side effects of Bystolic in mono-therapy trials. So what is the advantage of this beta blocker versus other beta blockers? Metoprolol/Toprol is the most proven and effective of the beta blockers for Cardio-related issues. Betaxolol and is closely related with the added advantage of being very effective for Anxiety and Panic Disorder, Glaucoma, hypertension and minimal (if any) sexual side effects. The only dilemma may be adjusting to the new generic.

 
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Re: does the Betaxolol cause sexual problems?

Toothartist,

I tried taking the generic BETAXOLOL again. The first 3 days I was feeling a little light headed, after one week or so the fogginess and lightheaded feeling almost disappeared. The anti-anxiety and calming effect is definitely evident as time goes by. Side effects continue to be minimal and most important their are no sexual side effects. A slight improvement maybe.......

 
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