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Old 03-29-2001, 03:26 PM   #1
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Hypertension and Viagra

Greetings All
This is a real situation which applies to me and I would think many other people -- I have not, however, been able to find out much info about the reality of the situation.

Here's the deal:
1. I have high blood pressure (HBP), well controlled (125/75) with medication.
2. I have access to Viagra.
3. I have a willing partner.

The questions is "What's going to happen to me if I combine all three?"

More ---
None of my blood pressure medications are contraindicated for Viagra (aplies to many).
No history of angina etc.etc. (applies to many).
Being treated for HBP can be a reason for not being given a prescription for Viagra (via internet - happened).

The easy answer, of course, is "Go see your doctor". OK, I will.

Although it stikes me that many people are not as cautious as I and will not actually go to a doctor (You can lie to internet docs to get Viagra and we all probably know someone who has some). So it becomes a real general interest issue which might be worth discussing.

We run a risk driving to work. Evidently, we run a risk doing 1,2 and 3, above. But what, really, is that risk?

Taking nitrates with Viagra is a real enough death risk according to the literature. So most would avoid the combination.

Blood pressure is lowered with Viagra so if you have LOW blood pressure, you might pass out - worst case, evidently.

Right now it seems that the only real problem is that should one have a cardiac event - admittedly more likely for one who is on blood pressure medication than not - then one would be at risk at the hospital when they give you a nitrate for treatment.

So tell your partner to paint a big V on your forehead before the ambulance leaves. Am I wrong?

Anybody run into this before? What do you know about it?

 
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Old 03-30-2001, 02:31 AM   #2
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Re: Hypertension and Viagra

Well, not knowing anything about you I'd say go for it. You don't say if you're elderly, overweight, diabetic etc etc etc . One would have to think that if apart from your BP you're basically healthy, then not a problem. You also don't say why you're looking at taking viagra (apart from the obvious of course). OFten things like the neuropathy associated with diabetes are the reason, or hardening of the blood vessels - which are capable of hardening and causing problems in the penis as well as everywhere else.

So I guess its important for you to know WHY you are taking viagra and whether there might be other solutions to your problem (eg maybe you need testing for low testosterone- this has always been poo-pooed but is becoming more accepted as a problem in older guys, and that might tell you whether or not you are likely to have problems from it. Hope this helps.

 
Old 04-02-2001, 03:06 PM   #3
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Re: Hypertension and Viagra

Thanks for replying, Speedgal.

Well, I gotta tell ya... Couldn't resist it. After spending another eternity on the Internet looking at the info on Viagra and hypertension and coming to the conclusion that I was in the safe zone, I acquired some Viagra and ran a test.

Neatest thing since sliced bread... canned beer???...!!!!

Those don't even come close. If I had died, I would have died with a smile on my face.

I'm 52 but felt like 20 again. 'Nuff said. I'll spare everyone from the details but your imagination will be accurate.

As to other side effects, I experienced flushing (very quickly noticable) and a 10 point (systolic and diastolic) drop in blood pressure - yes, I had the BP machine right there - and speed dial set for 911, just in case.

In the testing done in England for what was to become Viagra, then being tested for its effects on hyptertension, they ran into an interesting phenomenon. At the conclusion of drug tests it is typical (protocol) to get the unused drug from the participants. Generally, the return rate is high. With the Viagra, strangely, everyone seemed to have flushed the extra pills down the drain and wanted more. Thankfully, those doing the testing had the good sense to follow up on this. I know why - boy, do I know why.

And, Speedgal, in my case, as I said I'm 52 with no history or evidence of anything but hypertension and high cholesterol, both controlled well with light medication. I do smoke (ya, ya - this contributes negatively - read 'cardiovascular disease'), have for years and am, say 20 lbs overweight. Not diabetic. Can walk eight flights of stairs with moderate increase in pulse and quick return to normal. I'm in reasonably decent shape.

I became interested in Viagra because I experience what I would classify as mild erectile disfunction (never discussed with a physician). Often, the 'erection in question" is "not particulary impressive" and sometimes not enough to get started - though once started is successful. You do the mind game at the same time, wondering (read 'worrying') about being "successful". Try not thinking about pink elephants. Ya, ya, sure -- your partner might be understanding and all that -- but men do really care about their erection. (Geez, the things people say on the internet.)

I think my situation is probably the norm rather than the exception (except I may be in better physical shape than the average 52 year old), ergo, this long-winded reporting.

Now, here's the (new) deal:
If anyone out there is in similar circumstances as I, I would urge you to run, don't walk, to your physician and talk about your "problem" and the possibility of getting Viagra (Screw the life style changes - you should be doing something about that anyway). If there is embarrassment in this, trust me - knowing what I know now, I would walk naked down Main Street to the physician's office.

Note that I said TALK TO YOUR PHYSICIAN. Of all the things men may never discuss with someone else -- this should not be one of them because of the potential - and noticible - improvements. I'm going this week to get the 'official' seal of approval. Just because I didn't follow my advice and proper route doesn't mean others should do likewise.

And keep in mind that my experience is just that - my experience. Others may not get the same results. But, I'll say it again - my results were such that I have to say that this is well worth pursuing. (I am NOT a 'compensated endorser')

So, Speedgal, did you find any pieces of the MIR space station lying around your backyard?

 
Old 04-03-2001, 04:30 AM   #4
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Re: Hypertension and Viagra

Hi there,

Well I'm glad it went well.

I have a partner who is 53 and is in a similar situation to you - he worries more about the quality of his erections and their staying power than I do. Trouble is they can become a self fulfilling prophecy so if for no other reason than the once in a while psychological boost, yes they are good. However at the price we pay for them it would be hard to be fully reliant on them for your sex life!

In my experience half a 50 mg tablet is usually more than sufficient and some doctors suggest giving the 100 mg tablets out and then cutting them up. It works out cheaper! Try it and good luck!

BTW, no Mir remnants - thank God!

 
Old 04-26-2001, 06:04 PM   #5
 
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Re: Hypertension and Viagra

Cyberborg, thank you for your message! I have sent it to my under-50 husband who has dangerously high blood pressure, but will not go see the doctor because he's always heard that BP meds CAUSE erectile dysfunction. Since we are already having some difficulty, he's convinced that if he has to start on BP meds, we'll never have sex again! Perhaps your message will help convince him otherwise. I know some hypertension meds do reduce sexual function in men; does anyone know which ones they are (more importantly, which ones don't?)?
Thank you -- this could be a real lifesaver, no kidding.

 
Old 04-29-2001, 03:14 AM   #6
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Re: Hypertension and Viagra

Any BP meds that affect peripheral blood supply will likely affect erections. As a layman my guess would be that any of the ACE inhibitors would be OK and also the angiotension II inhibitors (tihnk that's right). Best thing to do is express your concerns to your doc. Any of the drugs he prescribes can be looked up on many sites on the net for their sideffects (try <A HREF="http://www.rxlist.com/)" TARGET=_blank>http://www.rxlist.com/)</A> for example. Always read the data properly - they will often give you a list of symptoms and then rate of occurrence in the placebo and then in the trial subjects. You are looking for differences BETWEEN these two groups. IF both have the same rate of occurrence there is no difference and hence no problem.
Best of luck.

 
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